Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates Part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Will Harry (6th in line) single handedly end the monarchy?

Doubtful. Tourism is a very big deal in Britain. And, where do the tourists go? Look it up.

Still find it hard to believe that Megan knew so little about Diana--she was 16 when she died and it was a very, very big deal. Clearly, Megan likes and is interested in the celebrity life. Kind of hard to feel too sorry for them since they just purchased a $15 million property. And, they couldn't afford security? Somehow, all that seemed a little shallow.

To me, neither side in this story is innocent of poor behavior.

They said they could afford security but he said he was shocked that he in particular would not be afforded security as he was born into the danger and did not sigh up for it.

No, that's not what he said. He said the BRF pulled security while they were in Canada. They asked the BRF to reconsider because everyone knew exactly where they were (down to which house) in Canada. This was also when COVID lockdowns started so a lot was up in the air and borders were being closed. He said part of the reason they had to make deals was to fund things, including security. That was his number one worry re: expenses. They can't skimp on that. Look at what other famous people spend on security. One figure I saw was $7 million/year.

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Anonymous wrote:Waiting to see how long it takes Charles to put out a statement and throw William under the bus.

Oh, wow! I didn't think the Queen or Phillip/their courtiers would even feel the need to deny it, but I guess they did. William and Charles must really be feeling the pressure.

No, the Queen didn't deny this.

This was Oprah's clarification, "at Harry's request".

I bet you anything it wasn't even a member of the royal family, it was senior staff at Buckingham Palace. THAT's why they're not naming names because it's not a name we would know, but it's still someone powerful to the family.

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Anonymous wrote:My dear dcumers, you are so totally naive and blind.
Here is what is happening here, and it is plain and simple.

Harry blames the RBF for his mother's death, and before that, he blames them for how it was handled. He blames his dad and his grandma for all of it.
And they are to blame!
He is out for revenge, and he is taking them down.
You know the same way most of the dcum cuts off their parents and families cause they are toxic? Stop being hypocrites here; BRF is toxic; if they were your family, you would cut them off.
Also, it seems that Harry is not a spineless twit, regardless of what he might sound like. He is out for blood and blood he is getting. Why should he and Meghan take it quietly and be a good sport about it? Think about it, they crucified his mother, and for what? For wanting to have a real marriage and not turning a blind eye? Watch the documentary on Disney+, in her own words. What was done to Diana is nothing short of criminal behavior.
I, for one, am proud of him.

Absolutely agree!

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I’m not crazy about the narrative that they wouldnt get security and therefore were unsafe. They weren’t going to be GIFTED free security paid for by the crown and taxpayers. Of course they could have paid for their own security just like every other non-royal celebrity or globally prominent person does. Being without security was not actually going to happen. And no, they do not need extra security due to the kid being 1/4 black. I mean even Taylor Swift gets death threats FFS.

I think this really gets at the crux of the issue: the BRF as an institution is full of absurd contradictions and Catch-22's.

Taylor Swift pays for her own security because she's worked, made a ton of money, and is famous BECAUSE of her work. Harry/Meghan were not allowed to work or have a career unless they formally left the institution. Meanwhile, they and their son have very real security needs. Which were further amplified when the UK media started playing up the racist tropes in their headlines.

Another catch-22: why is a great-grandkid cut out of security when they are a child....but then gets the security once Charles becomes king? That's absurd. That child needs protection. Period. What an insane and illogical set of circumstances.

Finally, look at how miserable Philip/Anne/etc are in their lives. They have to go to their mother for money because they are not allowed to work. That's exactly what Harry/Meghan are trying to avoid - a life where they have to constantly ask William for money and live on the taxpayer dole until they die. The entire institution is preposterously outdated. If folks don't want them to be beholden to the largess of the taxpayer, they need to be able to establish a career. Harry is coming upon age 40 and has only another 10-20 to have a legitimate career. He's actually running out of time, hence why they forced the issue and moved.

Toxic, racist media environment constantly attacking your wife and child. No ability to work or make money. No future prospects or ability to pursue ambitions. And, finally, no one seriously considering mental health concerns.

Would you stick around?

I would have thought about that ahead of time and certainly not had a showy wedding and a carriage ride if I wanted no part of it all.

If toxic and racist media is a concern, the last place you’d go is settle down in a $15 million dollar Los Angeles mansion, right up the street from Oprah.

Montecito is NOT Los Angeles. No filming or photogs allowed in Montecito. LA has the TMZ - "thirty mile zone" - where you can film & photograph without a permit.
So many celebs and wealthy live in Montecito BECAUSE they are protected from the paparazzi and it's low-key.

If you are fame hungry, you live in Los Angeles so you can be photographed.

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Anonymous wrote:Something everyone can agree on:

Many people will focus on staging their backyard to look like an outdoor living room like the interview setting.

I mean people with taste already do.

+1 This is nothing new, really backyard furniture is a novelty?

Right? It... didn't look like a living room? I'm poor by DCUM standards and I have backyard furniture...

Really? You have a backyard that looks like that? Kudos. If yes, you are indeed wealthy.

Outdoor furniture= wealthy in this area? OMG. Have you been to West Virginia people?

With so many "Martha Stewarts" in one place, really, where do I being. Can we not over do the "outdoor furniture" thing? It looks like hell. A few pieces is fine, but to go overboard looks ridiculous.

The interview space had a lovely slate patio anchored by stone columns and lush greenery. The rug and furniture—while somewhat ubiquitous—are just furnishings. The actual outdoor living area I’m referencing is the patio with columns and manicured gardening.

Lots of media and social media chatter about the space. It will trend up this spring.

Plus, succulents.

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Anonymous wrote:My dear dcumers, you are so totally naive and blind.
Here is what is happening here, and it is plain and simple.

Harry blames the RBF for his mother's death, and before that, he blames them for how it was handled. He blames his dad and his grandma for all of it.
And they are to blame!
He is out for revenge, and he is taking them down.
You know the same way most of the dcum cuts off their parents and families cause they are toxic? Stop being hypocrites here; BRF is toxic; if they were your family, you would cut them off.
Also, it seems that Harry is not a spineless twit, regardless of what he might sound like. He is out for blood and blood he is getting. Why should he and Meghan take it quietly and be a good sport about it? Think about it, they crucified his mother, and for what? For wanting to have a real marriage and not turning a blind eye? Watch the documentary on Disney+, in her own words. What was done to Diana is nothing short of criminal behavior.
I, for one, am proud of him.

Diana died because she got in a car with a drunk driver and chose not to wear a seatbelt.

I think you are being unfair. It was a limo and most people I know don't wear seatbelts. Also, the Royal family is notorious for not wearing seat belts. Even the kids. When I mentioned that a few years ago people gave me grief because "it is on PRIVATE land" and they aren't driving that fast for the reason Prince George wasn't wearing one.

No, it was a Mercedes W140, not a limo.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for poor Archie and his little sister. They're going to watch this interview and all the reactions to it, when they're older. Poor kids, a lot of the private stuff should remain private, should have remained private.

Sure. I"m sure you're just brimming with sympathy

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Anonymous wrote:Will Harry (6th in line) single handedly end the monarchy?

Doubtful. Tourism is a very big deal in Britain. And, where do the tourists go? Look it up.

Still find it hard to believe that Megan knew so little about Diana--she was 16 when she died and it was a very, very big deal. Clearly, Megan likes and is interested in the celebrity life. Kind of hard to feel too sorry for them since they just purchased a $15 million property. And, they couldn't afford security? Somehow, all that seemed a little shallow.

To me, neither side in this story is innocent of poor behavior.

They said they could afford security but he said he was shocked that he in particular would not be afforded security as he was born into the danger and did not sigh up for it.

No, that's not what he said. He said the BRF pulled security while they were in Canada. They asked the BRF to reconsider because everyone knew exactly where they were (down to which house) in Canada. This was also when COVID lockdowns started so a lot was up in the air and borders were being closed. He said part of the reason they had to make deals was to fund things, including security. That was his number one worry re: expenses. They can't skimp on that. Look at what other famous people spend on security. One figure I saw was $7 million/year.

He said they are fiancing their own security form his inheritance form Diana and forom the money they earn going forward.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for poor Archie and his little sister. They're going to watch this interview and all the reactions to it, when they're older. Poor kids, a lot of the private stuff should remain private, should have remained private.

No, that is how toxic abuse gets handed down from generation to generation- because nobody is allowed to talk about it and hold the abusers accountable. ‘Keep things private’ mentality is why so many children suffer sexual abuse for years without outcry.

We definitely DO NOT need more of that mentality!

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I agree with all of this. I will also say that the Royal Family operates in a historical timeline almost 40-50 years behind the rest of the 'world'. Their kids only go to the most elite private schools which are not diverse in any sense of word - racially, economically, or religiously. They mostly interact on a day-to-day basis with servants or courtiers who are actual members of noble families themselves - I mean if you want your mind blown look up the Queen's Racing Manager's 'house' - Lord 'Porchie'. They watch TV but that's not experiencing life.

In conclusion I can totally see how William grew up to be a racist in the 21st Century.

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Anonymous wrote:People were talking about Diana and security in the last thread, she declined it. Not sure it’s fair to blame the firm for that.

Everyone going on and on about security is missing the point of the interview entirely. It’s not about the security—it’s about the fact that the security is necessary in the first place because the Firm enables the tabloid press. They know that if the tabs turn on them, they are done. So the BRF is actually on both sides of the thing. Diana turning down security (because she believed, rightly or wrongly, that they were plotting to get rid of her) doesn’t change the responsibility the family had for accommodating and stoking the relationship with the press in the first place.

They did it 40 years ago and they’re still doing it. Harry’s mother being chased to her death had no impact on this system. I’m not surprised he wants out; he may be the only sane one in the family.

Completely agree. The royal family and staff have a symbiotic relationship with the tabloids.

Did you all catch the part where they said the tabloids have a holiday party at one of the palaces?

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Anonymous wrote:Harry is going to be unhappy until he reconciles with his family which may be out of the question now. It’s going to be ugly. I’m not sure I can make sense out of Meghan’s claims that she had no idea what the royal family was like. It’s pretty unbelievable.

it's a family that harbors a pedophile. Maybe Harry and his family are better off without them

This. The fact that the villains of this family and Meg and Harry not a disgusting pedo tells you everything you need to know.

Exactly. Don't forget that the abdicator/literal Hitler collaborator (Edward VIII) lived a long and comfortable life. There are literally video reels of him and his wife being wined and dined by the Reich.

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A DIVORCED American actress was the concern and how fast it happened and moved forward.

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Anonymous wrote:Remember the play King Charles III? In the end, William and Kate are trying to advise Charles to not screw it up. Charles does. And it ends with Harry falling in love with a black girl and taking a path away from the rest of the family.

I’ve never heard of this. So interesting! Do you have a link?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm convinced not only did the Royals not want the biracial/black one to have a child in the first place (they were itching to write 'she's barren' articles but she got pregnant too quickly) but they wanted to punish Meghan for duping them - so they tried to take the only thing they could - the baby's security and HRH.

If he was old enough to school they would have refused to pay for it.

This is bullshit. Archie is the great grandchild of the Monarch. No great grandchildren have princely titles. That is how it is. When they become grandchildren of the monarch - when Charles ascends to the throne - they will get security.

Right.....but this thinking is completely outdated. We live in an age of social media radicalization and extremism. Where radicals plot violence on apps and can act on it in a matter of days.

That child has very real security needs TODAY. Not when Charles ascends to the throne. Now.

This is just one instance where the BRF as an institution refuses to face reality.

And anyone who can afford to buy a $20 Million house can afford private security guards instead of mooching off of granny.