"I support the teachers" people

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Anonymous wrote:I support teachers and choice. As long as their is a DL option while we’re in a pandemic, then that’s fine with me.

Wow. Do you realize how long it will be a "pandemic"? So DL well into 2021 for you?

How about if we put it another way: will you still be stomping and complaining in Fall of 2021 about the changes we've all had to make to our lives because of the pandemic?

If kids are not in school in Fall 2021, I will be horrified, yes. "Stomping and complaining" is such a weird way to phrase it. I'm kind of concluding that you don't understand what this is all about - you honestly believe that it's just a nice extra for society to provide education to its children? And that it's "stomping and complaining" to be horrified that the powers that be are apparently perfectly fine with no school indefinitely now? I'm surprised, but I guess I shouldn't be. We're seeing a progressive decay of all public goods, as they get shifted from "things society provides because they're good for everyone" to "you're on your own here, kid, everyone has to look out for their own self interests." I saw this happen with college tuition, but I never dreamed I would see it happen so rapidly with elementary school. SMH.

I agree with all of this, and would like to add that to me (as a liberal from Europe) it is particularly shocking to see this process now being driven and this attitude be displayed by American liberals. I always thought the "you are on your own" mentality was a Republican thing. Now it's liberals screaming "nobody owes you free childcare!" and "what's the big deal about having to homeschool your kids!". SMH indeed.

You are misrepresenting the argument. People are saying that this plan does too little. DCPS should come up with a better plan that helps more students. They could have started Cares in September. Why didn’t they? Why have they not hired staff for Cares instead of trying to grab HS staff? Some of us want accountability for DCPS which will help all kids including the most vulnerable

No “people” are not saying that. WTU tanked the plan because they don’t want to go back, at all. And their supporters here agree- no school until the pandemic ends.

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Anonymous wrote:I support teachers and choice. As long as their is a DL option while we’re in a pandemic, then that’s fine with me.

Wow. Do you realize how long it will be a "pandemic"? So DL well into 2021 for you?

How about if we put it another way: will you still be stomping and complaining in Fall of 2021 about the changes we've all had to make to our lives because of the pandemic?

If kids are not in school in Fall 2021, I will be horrified, yes. "Stomping and complaining" is such a weird way to phrase it. I'm kind of concluding that you don't understand what this is all about - you honestly believe that it's just a nice extra for society to provide education to its children? And that it's "stomping and complaining" to be horrified that the powers that be are apparently perfectly fine with no school indefinitely now? I'm surprised, but I guess I shouldn't be. We're seeing a progressive decay of all public goods, as they get shifted from "things society provides because they're good for everyone" to "you're on your own here, kid, everyone has to look out for their own self interests." I saw this happen with college tuition, but I never dreamed I would see it happen so rapidly with elementary school. SMH.

I agree with all of this, and would like to add that to me (as a liberal from Europe) it is particularly shocking to see this process now being driven and this attitude be displayed by American liberals. I always thought the "you are on your own" mentality was a Republican thing. Now it's liberals screaming "nobody owes you free childcare!" and "what's the big deal about having to homeschool your kids!". SMH indeed.

You are misrepresenting the argument. People are saying that this plan does too little. DCPS should come up with a better plan that helps more students. They could have started Cares in September. Why didn’t they? Why have they not hired staff for Cares instead of trying to grab HS staff? Some of us want accountability for DCPS which will help all kids including the most vulnerable

I'm not "misrepresenting" any argument. I am not talking about or referring to the specific situation in DC at this moment, but to the longer term question of how long kids can reasonably be kept out of school because of this kind of pandemic (not only in DC, but in surrounding counties as well), which is what this thread is about.

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Anonymous wrote:I support teachers and choice. As long as their is a DL option while we’re in a pandemic, then that’s fine with me.

Wow. Do you realize how long it will be a "pandemic"? So DL well into 2021 for you?

How about if we put it another way: will you still be stomping and complaining in Fall of 2021 about the changes we've all had to make to our lives because of the pandemic?

If kids are not in school in Fall 2021, I will be horrified, yes. "Stomping and complaining" is such a weird way to phrase it. I'm kind of concluding that you don't understand what this is all about - you honestly believe that it's just a nice extra for society to provide education to its children? And that it's "stomping and complaining" to be horrified that the powers that be are apparently perfectly fine with no school indefinitely now? I'm surprised, but I guess I shouldn't be. We're seeing a progressive decay of all public goods, as they get shifted from "things society provides because they're good for everyone" to "you're on your own here, kid, everyone has to look out for their own self interests." I saw this happen with college tuition, but I never dreamed I would see it happen so rapidly with elementary school. SMH.

I agree with all of this, and would like to add that to me (as a liberal from Europe) it is particularly shocking to see this process now being driven and this attitude be displayed by American liberals. I always thought the "you are on your own" mentality was a Republican thing. Now it's liberals screaming "nobody owes you free childcare!" and "what's the big deal about having to homeschool your kids!". SMH indeed.

You are misrepresenting the argument. People are saying that this plan does too little. DCPS should come up with a better plan that helps more students. They could have started Cares in September. Why didn’t they? Why have they not hired staff for Cares instead of trying to grab HS staff? Some of us want accountability for DCPS which will help all kids including the most vulnerable

No “people” are not saying that. WTU tanked the plan because they don’t want to go back, at all. And their supporters here agree- no school until the pandemic ends.

+1. It's disgusting that teachers are now trying to spin their actions as being in support of the most vulnerable students. You teachers f$%^ed it up for the vulnerable kids who had spots. Now they have nothing.

You won. Just don't try to rewrite history and cast yourselves as the saviors.

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The principals were against the plan, too, because it did not serve the neediest well. And plenty parents were clearly against it.

But, sure, be hoodwinked by Bowser/Ferebee and blame it all on the WTU.

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Anonymous wrote:I support teachers and choice. As long as their is a DL option while we’re in a pandemic, then that’s fine with me.

Wow. Do you realize how long it will be a "pandemic"? So DL well into 2021 for you?

How about if we put it another way: will you still be stomping and complaining in Fall of 2021 about the changes we've all had to make to our lives because of the pandemic?

If kids are not in school in Fall 2021, I will be horrified, yes. "Stomping and complaining" is such a weird way to phrase it. I'm kind of concluding that you don't understand what this is all about - you honestly believe that it's just a nice extra for society to provide education to its children? And that it's "stomping and complaining" to be horrified that the powers that be are apparently perfectly fine with no school indefinitely now? I'm surprised, but I guess I shouldn't be. We're seeing a progressive decay of all public goods, as they get shifted from "things society provides because they're good for everyone" to "you're on your own here, kid, everyone has to look out for their own self interests." I saw this happen with college tuition, but I never dreamed I would see it happen so rapidly with elementary school. SMH.

I agree with all of this, and would like to add that to me (as a liberal from Europe) it is particularly shocking to see this process now being driven and this attitude be displayed by American liberals. I always thought the "you are on your own" mentality was a Republican thing. Now it's liberals screaming "nobody owes you free childcare!" and "what's the big deal about having to homeschool your kids!". SMH indeed.

You are misrepresenting the argument. People are saying that this plan does too little. DCPS should come up with a better plan that helps more students. They could have started Cares in September. Why didn’t they? Why have they not hired staff for Cares instead of trying to grab HS staff? Some of us want accountability for DCPS which will help all kids including the most vulnerable

No “people” are not saying that. WTU tanked the plan because they don’t want to go back, at all. And their supporters here agree- no school until the pandemic ends.

+1. It's disgusting that teachers are now trying to spin their actions as being in support of the most vulnerable students. You teachers f$%^ed it up for the vulnerable kids who had spots. Now they have nothing.

You won. Just don't try to rewrite history and cast yourselves as the saviors.

I’m a parent that you are responding to - not a teacher. Just someone who is capable of more higher order thinking than you apparently

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Anonymous wrote:I support teachers and choice. As long as their is a DL option while we’re in a pandemic, then that’s fine with me.

Wow. Do you realize how long it will be a "pandemic"? So DL well into 2021 for you?

How about if we put it another way: will you still be stomping and complaining in Fall of 2021 about the changes we've all had to make to our lives because of the pandemic?

If kids are not in school in Fall 2021, I will be horrified, yes. "Stomping and complaining" is such a weird way to phrase it. I'm kind of concluding that you don't understand what this is all about - you honestly believe that it's just a nice extra for society to provide education to its children? And that it's "stomping and complaining" to be horrified that the powers that be are apparently perfectly fine with no school indefinitely now? I'm surprised, but I guess I shouldn't be. We're seeing a progressive decay of all public goods, as they get shifted from "things society provides because they're good for everyone" to "you're on your own here, kid, everyone has to look out for their own self interests." I saw this happen with college tuition, but I never dreamed I would see it happen so rapidly with elementary school. SMH.

I agree with all of this, and would like to add that to me (as a liberal from Europe) it is particularly shocking to see this process now being driven and this attitude be displayed by American liberals. I always thought the "you are on your own" mentality was a Republican thing. Now it's liberals screaming "nobody owes you free childcare!" and "what's the big deal about having to homeschool your kids!". SMH indeed.

You are misrepresenting the argument. People are saying that this plan does too little. DCPS should come up with a better plan that helps more students. They could have started Cares in September. Why didn’t they? Why have they not hired staff for Cares instead of trying to grab HS staff? Some of us want accountability for DCPS which will help all kids including the most vulnerable

No “people” are not saying that. WTU tanked the plan because they don’t want to go back, at all. And their supporters here agree- no school until the pandemic ends.

+1. It's disgusting that teachers are now trying to spin their actions as being in support of the most vulnerable students. You teachers f$%^ed it up for the vulnerable kids who had spots. Now they have nothing.

You won. Just don't try to rewrite history and cast yourselves as the saviors.

I’m a parent that you are responding to - not a teacher. Just someone who is capable of more higher order thinking than you apparently

Yes but you see, this is the problem. WTU does not want to go back under any circumstances. They are not willing to be creative, and at the end of the day, they can say all they want about "caring for the kids" but this is ALL on them. I suggest if you are a DCPS teacher and don't want to teach, get out of the profession. The sick out was the last straw for so many parents - you shredded whatever good will you all have left.

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I’m a parent, and I sure trust my school’s teachers more the rabid “WTU is the devil!” posters.

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I'm fine with it because I'm moving all my kids to private in January. It took a lot of time to find spaces and my oldest is going to boarding school that's fully open but WTU can keep the schools closed forever as far as I'm concerned. Maybe then someone will notice how outdated our public school education is and we'll get vouchers which will help me with these private tuitions.

Go ahead, keep the schools closed. Make my day.

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Anonymous wrote:To answer OP question: for how long? I am OK with my kids staying at home the whole school year. I am enjoying my extra time with them. They'll probably get a lot more years of in-person schooling later on in the future, so I'm good with this year at home.

I'm ok with distance learning all year if necessary. My mother-in-law grew up during World War II and didn't go to school for years. She is a very solid intelligent person that grew up to be a chemist. It will be fine.

I used to be a teacher in Ward 8 and am tired of people using at-risk students as a pawns in their arguments and stating that teachers don't care. Ridiculous. The achievement gap has been an issue in the District for decades and its wouldn't have been resolved by this plan. There needs to be other interventions and investments.

I'm impressed by this argument. Truly impressed. You managed to string together SO MANY bad arguments into so few sentences! Like, just look at this list!

1. I knew someone who turned out okay with fewer years of schooling 80 years ago, ergo all students today will be fine.
2. Saying you care about at-risk students is evidence you don't care about at-risk students.
3. The achievement gap has always existed, and therefore we should not care whether it is increasing
4. Going back in person, won't fix the achievement gap, so we should just not do it.
5. We should do something else. I don't know what. But not this.

I really have to hand it to you. That was a truly efficient way to make many bad arguments all at the same time.

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

If you do that (as I have already, for the year at least), you may find that the demands of the WTU and American ideas about what is "safe" go way beyond what other countries have done to successfully open schools. In Germany, all they are doing is wear masks at school but NOT while sitting in the classroom, keep kids in cohorts, wash hands frequently, not share supplies, and open the windows on a regular basis. Quarantine the kid's or teacher's closest contacts when someone tests positive. And despite rising community spread (likely due to travel and adults letting their guard down in general and congregating in various places), they have few cases in schools and no outbreaks. It's not as hard as Americans make it out to be.

Every thread. You tell the exact same story about Germany. Could you at least change it up? Give some new info, new anecdote about your travels, talk about the people who may riot because of new mask rules? ANYTHING that could be some new info

DP. Why are you so triggered by the fact that other countries — heck other US cities and schools — can manage to keep schools open? Causes a little cognitive dissonance I guess.

They're going back into lock downs and curfews. That seems like successful outcomes of reopening schools to you?

they’re locking down everything else and keeping schools open. And their schools have been open all along.

Yep. There's a post article up right now about that happening in Canada

And Switzerland and Austria. It's so upsetting that every other country can get this right. UK, Germany and France also recently upped their restrictions but still have schools open :/

How is going back to square one "getting this right"?

You still don't get it. In other places they realize schools are important and that they have to start finding ways to educate their kids in person. This isn't square one. There are protections in place that we didn't understand in March. There is also data showing that places that have opened schools aren't seeing the massive outbreaks and that WTU has overplayed their hand. In reality, opening is a starting point and things will need to be tweeked as they go, but the WTU is dug in and won't let anything begin.

Countries that have kept schools open are shutting down their countries again. IT'S NOT WORKING. But hey, I get that you don't give a crap about anyone but yourself, so that's fine with you as long as YOUR kids get to go to school so YOU can go back to work. We get it.

Ah, this is so true. These countries that have kept schools open ARE shutting down their countries to contain the spread, which is evidence that keeping the schools open was responsible. Not the the US where schools were the first thing to close and the last thing to open, and we have definitely managed to control the spread.

Do you guys ever like...think about the things you're saying?

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

If you do that (as I have already, for the year at least), you may find that the demands of the WTU and American ideas about what is "safe" go way beyond what other countries have done to successfully open schools. In Germany, all they are doing is wear masks at school but NOT while sitting in the classroom, keep kids in cohorts, wash hands frequently, not share supplies, and open the windows on a regular basis. Quarantine the kid's or teacher's closest contacts when someone tests positive. And despite rising community spread (likely due to travel and adults letting their guard down in general and congregating in various places), they have few cases in schools and no outbreaks. It's not as hard as Americans make it out to be.

Every thread. You tell the exact same story about Germany. Could you at least change it up? Give some new info, new anecdote about your travels, talk about the people who may riot because of new mask rules? ANYTHING that could be some new info

DP. Why are you so triggered by the fact that other countries — heck other US cities and schools — can manage to keep schools open? Causes a little cognitive dissonance I guess.

They're going back into lock downs and curfews. That seems like successful outcomes of reopening schools to you?

they’re locking down everything else and keeping schools open. And their schools have been open all along.

Yep. There's a post article up right now about that happening in Canada

And Switzerland and Austria. It's so upsetting that every other country can get this right. UK, Germany and France also recently upped their restrictions but still have schools open :/

How is going back to square one "getting this right"?

You still don't get it. In other places they realize schools are important and that they have to start finding ways to educate their kids in person. This isn't square one. There are protections in place that we didn't understand in March. There is also data showing that places that have opened schools aren't seeing the massive outbreaks and that WTU has overplayed their hand. In reality, opening is a starting point and things will need to be tweeked as they go, but the WTU is dug in and won't let anything begin.

Countries that have kept schools open are shutting down their countries again. IT'S NOT WORKING. But hey, I get that you don't give a crap about anyone but yourself, so that's fine with you as long as YOUR kids get to go to school so YOU can go back to work. We get it.

Ah, this is so true. These countries that have kept schools open ARE shutting down their countries to contain the spread, which is evidence that keeping the schools open was responsible. Not the the US where schools were the first thing to close and the last thing to open, and we have definitely managed to control the spread.

Do you guys ever like...think about the things you're saying?

Do you ever like....read the research and the evidence that shows what you are saying isn't true?

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

If you do that (as I have already, for the year at least), you may find that the demands of the WTU and American ideas about what is "safe" go way beyond what other countries have done to successfully open schools. In Germany, all they are doing is wear masks at school but NOT while sitting in the classroom, keep kids in cohorts, wash hands frequently, not share supplies, and open the windows on a regular basis. Quarantine the kid's or teacher's closest contacts when someone tests positive. And despite rising community spread (likely due to travel and adults letting their guard down in general and congregating in various places), they have few cases in schools and no outbreaks. It's not as hard as Americans make it out to be.

Every thread. You tell the exact same story about Germany. Could you at least change it up? Give some new info, new anecdote about your travels, talk about the people who may riot because of new mask rules? ANYTHING that could be some new info

DP. Why are you so triggered by the fact that other countries — heck other US cities and schools — can manage to keep schools open? Causes a little cognitive dissonance I guess.

They're going back into lock downs and curfews. That seems like successful outcomes of reopening schools to you?

they’re locking down everything else and keeping schools open. And their schools have been open all along.

Yep. There's a post article up right now about that happening in Canada

And Switzerland and Austria. It's so upsetting that every other country can get this right. UK, Germany and France also recently upped their restrictions but still have schools open :/

How is going back to square one "getting this right"?

You still don't get it. In other places they realize schools are important and that they have to start finding ways to educate their kids in person. This isn't square one. There are protections in place that we didn't understand in March. There is also data showing that places that have opened schools aren't seeing the massive outbreaks and that WTU has overplayed their hand. In reality, opening is a starting point and things will need to be tweeked as they go, but the WTU is dug in and won't let anything begin.

Countries that have kept schools open are shutting down their countries again. IT'S NOT WORKING. But hey, I get that you don't give a crap about anyone but yourself, so that's fine with you as long as YOUR kids get to go to school so YOU can go back to work. We get it.

Ah, this is so true. These countries that have kept schools open ARE shutting down their countries to contain the spread, which is evidence that keeping the schools open was responsible. Not the the US where schools were the first thing to close and the last thing to open, and we have definitely managed to control the spread.

Do you guys ever like...think about the things you're saying?

Do you ever like....read the research and the evidence that shows what you are saying isn't true?

Oh dear. That was sarcasm. I was restating the above person's clueless argument which seems to suggest that schools being open is a major driver of community spread.

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Anonymous wrote:To answer OP question: for how long? I am OK with my kids staying at home the whole school year. I am enjoying my extra time with them. They'll probably get a lot more years of in-person schooling later on in the future, so I'm good with this year at home.

I'm ok with distance learning all year if necessary. My mother-in-law grew up during World War II and didn't go to school for years. She is a very solid intelligent person that grew up to be a chemist. It will be fine.

I used to be a teacher in Ward 8 and am tired of people using at-risk students as a pawns in their arguments and stating that teachers don't care. Ridiculous. The achievement gap has been an issue in the District for decades and its wouldn't have been resolved by this plan. There needs to be other interventions and investments.

I'm impressed by this argument. Truly impressed. You managed to string together SO MANY bad arguments into so few sentences! Like, just look at this list!

1. I knew someone who turned out okay with fewer years of schooling 80 years ago, ergo all students today will be fine.
2. Saying you care about at-risk students is evidence you don't care about at-risk students.
3. The achievement gap has always existed, and therefore we should not care whether it is increasing
4. Going back in person, won't fix the achievement gap, so we should just not do it.
5. We should do something else. I don't know what. But not this.

I really have to hand it to you. That was a truly efficient way to make many bad arguments all at the same time.

+1

Teachers are constantly suggesting that plans should be discarded if they are not perfect solutions to all educational problems, which is just another way of ensuring that no progress can be made.

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Anonymous wrote:To answer OP question: for how long? I am OK with my kids staying at home the whole school year. I am enjoying my extra time with them. They'll probably get a lot more years of in-person schooling later on in the future, so I'm good with this year at home.

I'm ok with distance learning all year if necessary. My mother-in-law grew up during World War II and didn't go to school for years. She is a very solid intelligent person that grew up to be a chemist. It will be fine.

I used to be a teacher in Ward 8 and am tired of people using at-risk students as a pawns in their arguments and stating that teachers don't care. Ridiculous. The achievement gap has been an issue in the District for decades and its wouldn't have been resolved by this plan. There needs to be other interventions and investments.

I'm impressed by this argument. Truly impressed. You managed to string together SO MANY bad arguments into so few sentences! Like, just look at this list!

1. I knew someone who turned out okay with fewer years of schooling 80 years ago, ergo all students today will be fine.
2. Saying you care about at-risk students is evidence you don't care about at-risk students.
3. The achievement gap has always existed, and therefore we should not care whether it is increasing
4. Going back in person, won't fix the achievement gap, so we should just not do it.
5. We should do something else. I don't know what. But not this.

I really have to hand it to you. That was a truly efficient way to make many bad arguments all at the same time.

+1

Teachers are constantly suggesting that plans should be discarded if they are not perfect solutions to all educational problems, which is just another way of ensuring that no progress can be made.

This! They're pointing at anything and everything and saying all of society's ills must be cured before they go back to work!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with it because I'm moving all my kids to private in January. It took a lot of time to find spaces and my oldest is going to boarding school that's fully open but WTU can keep the schools closed forever as far as I'm concerned. Maybe then someone will notice how outdated our public school education is and we'll get vouchers which will help me with these private tuitions.

Go ahead, keep the schools closed. Make my day.

Translation: "I've got mine, screw all others, especially if it helps me get even more!" Are you part of the Trump family?