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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

If you do that (as I have already, for the year at least), you may find that the demands of the WTU and American ideas about what is "safe" go way beyond what other countries have done to successfully open schools. In Germany, all they are doing is wear masks at school but NOT while sitting in the classroom, keep kids in cohorts, wash hands frequently, not share supplies, and open the windows on a regular basis. Quarantine the kid's or teacher's closest contacts when someone tests positive. And despite rising community spread (likely due to travel and adults letting their guard down in general and congregating in various places), they have few cases in schools and no outbreaks. It's not as hard as Americans make it out to be.

Every thread. You tell the exact same story about Germany. Could you at least change it up? Give some new info, new anecdote about your travels, talk about the people who may riot because of new mask rules? ANYTHING that could be some new info

DP. Why are you so triggered by the fact that other countries — heck other US cities and schools — can manage to keep schools open? Causes a little cognitive dissonance I guess.

They're going back into lock downs and curfews. That seems like successful outcomes of reopening schools to you?

they’re locking down everything else and keeping schools open. And their schools have been open all along.

Yep. There's a post article up right now about that happening in Canada

And Switzerland and Austria. It's so upsetting that every other country can get this right. UK, Germany and France also recently upped their restrictions but still have schools open :/

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

If you do that (as I have already, for the year at least), you may find that the demands of the WTU and American ideas about what is "safe" go way beyond what other countries have done to successfully open schools. In Germany, all they are doing is wear masks at school but NOT while sitting in the classroom, keep kids in cohorts, wash hands frequently, not share supplies, and open the windows on a regular basis. Quarantine the kid's or teacher's closest contacts when someone tests positive. And despite rising community spread (likely due to travel and adults letting their guard down in general and congregating in various places), they have few cases in schools and no outbreaks. It's not as hard as Americans make it out to be.

Every thread. You tell the exact same story about Germany. Could you at least change it up? Give some new info, new anecdote about your travels, talk about the people who may riot because of new mask rules? ANYTHING that could be some new info

DP. Why are you so triggered by the fact that other countries — heck other US cities and schools — can manage to keep schools open? Causes a little cognitive dissonance I guess.

They're going back into lock downs and curfews. That seems like successful outcomes of reopening schools to you?

they’re locking down everything else and keeping schools open. And their schools have been open all along.

That's not a ringing endorsement for keeping schools open, now is it.

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

If you do that (as I have already, for the year at least), you may find that the demands of the WTU and American ideas about what is "safe" go way beyond what other countries have done to successfully open schools. In Germany, all they are doing is wear masks at school but NOT while sitting in the classroom, keep kids in cohorts, wash hands frequently, not share supplies, and open the windows on a regular basis. Quarantine the kid's or teacher's closest contacts when someone tests positive. And despite rising community spread (likely due to travel and adults letting their guard down in general and congregating in various places), they have few cases in schools and no outbreaks. It's not as hard as Americans make it out to be.

Every thread. You tell the exact same story about Germany. Could you at least change it up? Give some new info, new anecdote about your travels, talk about the people who may riot because of new mask rules? ANYTHING that could be some new info

DP. Why are you so triggered by the fact that other countries — heck other US cities and schools — can manage to keep schools open? Causes a little cognitive dissonance I guess.

They're going back into lock downs and curfews. That seems like successful outcomes of reopening schools to you?

they’re locking down everything else and keeping schools open. And their schools have been open all along.

Yep. There's a post article up right now about that happening in Canada

And Switzerland and Austria. It's so upsetting that every other country can get this right. UK, Germany and France also recently upped their restrictions but still have schools open :/

How is going back to square one "getting this right"?

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I've accepted that we're not going back this year and will deal with it. I can't accept that we will not be going back if a vaccine become available by next academic year (for teachers, not kids).


What if it is just 50% effective after two shots? That is the FDA threshold for approval? That means you have a 50% change of getting covid once you are vaccinated. At very best we might be looking at 70% effective rate.

What then?

No, it absolultely does not mean that you have "a 50 percent chance of getting COVID after you are vaccinated." Because even with no vaccine at all, not every person exposed to COVID gets it if they are wearing a mask and the infected person is wearing a mask.

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

If you do that (as I have already, for the year at least), you may find that the demands of the WTU and American ideas about what is "safe" go way beyond what other countries have done to successfully open schools. In Germany, all they are doing is wear masks at school but NOT while sitting in the classroom, keep kids in cohorts, wash hands frequently, not share supplies, and open the windows on a regular basis. Quarantine the kid's or teacher's closest contacts when someone tests positive. And despite rising community spread (likely due to travel and adults letting their guard down in general and congregating in various places), they have few cases in schools and no outbreaks. It's not as hard as Americans make it out to be.

Every thread. You tell the exact same story about Germany. Could you at least change it up? Give some new info, new anecdote about your travels, talk about the people who may riot because of new mask rules? ANYTHING that could be some new info

DP. Why are you so triggered by the fact that other countries — heck other US cities and schools — can manage to keep schools open? Causes a little cognitive dissonance I guess.

They're going back into lock downs and curfews. That seems like successful outcomes of reopening schools to you?

they’re locking down everything else and keeping schools open. And their schools have been open all along.

Yep. There's a post article up right now about that happening in Canada

And Switzerland and Austria. It's so upsetting that every other country can get this right. UK, Germany and France also recently upped their restrictions but still have schools open :/

How is going back to square one "getting this right"?

You still don't get it. In other places they realize schools are important and that they have to start finding ways to educate their kids in person. This isn't square one. There are protections in place that we didn't understand in March. There is also data showing that places that have opened schools aren't seeing the massive outbreaks and that WTU has overplayed their hand. In reality, opening is a starting point and things will need to be tweeked as they go, but the WTU is dug in and won't let anything begin.

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Anonymous wrote:To answer OP question: for how long? I am OK with my kids staying at home the whole school year. I am enjoying my extra time with them. They'll probably get a lot more years of in-person schooling later on in the future, so I'm good with this year at home.

I'm ok with distance learning all year if necessary. My mother-in-law grew up during World War II and didn't go to school for years. She is a very solid intelligent person that grew up to be a chemist. It will be fine.

I used to be a teacher in Ward 8 and am tired of people using at-risk students as a pawns in their arguments and stating that teachers don't care. Ridiculous. The achievement gap has been an issue in the District for decades and its wouldn't have been resolved by this plan. There needs to be other interventions and investments.

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

If you do that (as I have already, for the year at least), you may find that the demands of the WTU and American ideas about what is "safe" go way beyond what other countries have done to successfully open schools. In Germany, all they are doing is wear masks at school but NOT while sitting in the classroom, keep kids in cohorts, wash hands frequently, not share supplies, and open the windows on a regular basis. Quarantine the kid's or teacher's closest contacts when someone tests positive. And despite rising community spread (likely due to travel and adults letting their guard down in general and congregating in various places), they have few cases in schools and no outbreaks. It's not as hard as Americans make it out to be.

Every thread. You tell the exact same story about Germany. Could you at least change it up? Give some new info, new anecdote about your travels, talk about the people who may riot because of new mask rules? ANYTHING that could be some new info

DP. Why are you so triggered by the fact that other countries — heck other US cities and schools — can manage to keep schools open? Causes a little cognitive dissonance I guess.

They're going back into lock downs and curfews. That seems like successful outcomes of reopening schools to you?

they’re locking down everything else and keeping schools open. And their schools have been open all along.

Yep. There's a post article up right now about that happening in Canada

And Switzerland and Austria. It's so upsetting that every other country can get this right. UK, Germany and France also recently upped their restrictions but still have schools open :/

How is going back to square one "getting this right"?

You still don't get it. In other places they realize schools are important and that they have to start finding ways to educate their kids in person. This isn't square one. There are protections in place that we didn't understand in March. There is also data showing that places that have opened schools aren't seeing the massive outbreaks and that WTU has overplayed their hand. In reality, opening is a starting point and things will need to be tweeked as they go, but the WTU is dug in and won't let anything begin.

Countries that have kept schools open are shutting down their countries again. IT'S NOT WORKING. But hey, I get that you don't give a crap about anyone but yourself, so that's fine with you as long as YOUR kids get to go to school so YOU can go back to work. We get it.

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

If you do that (as I have already, for the year at least), you may find that the demands of the WTU and American ideas about what is "safe" go way beyond what other countries have done to successfully open schools. In Germany, all they are doing is wear masks at school but NOT while sitting in the classroom, keep kids in cohorts, wash hands frequently, not share supplies, and open the windows on a regular basis. Quarantine the kid's or teacher's closest contacts when someone tests positive. And despite rising community spread (likely due to travel and adults letting their guard down in general and congregating in various places), they have few cases in schools and no outbreaks. It's not as hard as Americans make it out to be.

Every thread. You tell the exact same story about Germany. Could you at least change it up? Give some new info, new anecdote about your travels, talk about the people who may riot because of new mask rules? ANYTHING that could be some new info

DP. Why are you so triggered by the fact that other countries — heck other US cities and schools — can manage to keep schools open? Causes a little cognitive dissonance I guess.

They're going back into lock downs and curfews. That seems like successful outcomes of reopening schools to you?

they’re locking down everything else and keeping schools open. And their schools have been open all along.

Yep. There's a post article up right now about that happening in Canada

And Switzerland and Austria. It's so upsetting that every other country can get this right. UK, Germany and France also recently upped their restrictions but still have schools open :/

How is going back to square one "getting this right"?

You still don't get it. In other places they realize schools are important and that they have to start finding ways to educate their kids in person. This isn't square one. There are protections in place that we didn't understand in March. There is also data showing that places that have opened schools aren't seeing the massive outbreaks and that WTU has overplayed their hand. In reality, opening is a starting point and things will need to be tweeked as they go, but the WTU is dug in and won't let anything begin.

Not sure what the point is of comparing us to Germany and Switzerland. These places did a much better job of managing Covid than the US. Also, they have a national education system while the US is a patchwork of state systems which devolves into a mess when you have a pandemic or equivalent national emergency

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

If you do that (as I have already, for the year at least), you may find that the demands of the WTU and American ideas about what is "safe" go way beyond what other countries have done to successfully open schools. In Germany, all they are doing is wear masks at school but NOT while sitting in the classroom, keep kids in cohorts, wash hands frequently, not share supplies, and open the windows on a regular basis. Quarantine the kid's or teacher's closest contacts when someone tests positive. And despite rising community spread (likely due to travel and adults letting their guard down in general and congregating in various places), they have few cases in schools and no outbreaks. It's not as hard as Americans make it out to be.

Every thread. You tell the exact same story about Germany. Could you at least change it up? Give some new info, new anecdote about your travels, talk about the people who may riot because of new mask rules? ANYTHING that could be some new info

DP. Why are you so triggered by the fact that other countries — heck other US cities and schools — can manage to keep schools open? Causes a little cognitive dissonance I guess.

They're going back into lock downs and curfews. That seems like successful outcomes of reopening schools to you?

they’re locking down everything else and keeping schools open. And their schools have been open all along.

Yep. There's a post article up right now about that happening in Canada

And Switzerland and Austria. It's so upsetting that every other country can get this right. UK, Germany and France also recently upped their restrictions but still have schools open :/

How is going back to square one "getting this right"?

You still don't get it. In other places they realize schools are important and that they have to start finding ways to educate their kids in person. This isn't square one. There are protections in place that we didn't understand in March. There is also data showing that places that have opened schools aren't seeing the massive outbreaks and that WTU has overplayed their hand. In reality, opening is a starting point and things will need to be tweeked as they go, but the WTU is dug in and won't let anything begin.

People had a fit here when we were in full quarantine mode. Are you willing to go into full quarantine? Doubt it. You can say other countries are doing it but they are doing it in many different ways, have a very different culture and can and have locked their boarders and other things.

People here are selfish. We can voluntarily do it but most aren't.

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Anonymous wrote:To answer OP question: for how long? I am OK with my kids staying at home the whole school year. I am enjoying my extra time with them. They'll probably get a lot more years of in-person schooling later on in the future, so I'm good with this year at home.

I'm ok with distance learning all year if necessary. My mother-in-law grew up during World War II and didn't go to school for years. She is a very solid intelligent person that grew up to be a chemist. It will be fine.

I used to be a teacher in Ward 8 and am tired of people using at-risk students as a pawns in their arguments and stating that teachers don't care. Ridiculous. The achievement gap has been an issue in the District for decades and its wouldn't have been resolved by this plan. There needs to be other interventions and investments.

+1, most people haven't been in the communities they are talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

If you do that (as I have already, for the year at least), you may find that the demands of the WTU and American ideas about what is "safe" go way beyond what other countries have done to successfully open schools. In Germany, all they are doing is wear masks at school but NOT while sitting in the classroom, keep kids in cohorts, wash hands frequently, not share supplies, and open the windows on a regular basis. Quarantine the kid's or teacher's closest contacts when someone tests positive. And despite rising community spread (likely due to travel and adults letting their guard down in general and congregating in various places), they have few cases in schools and no outbreaks. It's not as hard as Americans make it out to be.

Every thread. You tell the exact same story about Germany. Could you at least change it up? Give some new info, new anecdote about your travels, talk about the people who may riot because of new mask rules? ANYTHING that could be some new info

DP. Why are you so triggered by the fact that other countries — heck other US cities and schools — can manage to keep schools open? Causes a little cognitive dissonance I guess.

They're going back into lock downs and curfews. That seems like successful outcomes of reopening schools to you?

they’re locking down everything else and keeping schools open. And their schools have been open all along.

Yep. There's a post article up right now about that happening in Canada

And Switzerland and Austria. It's so upsetting that every other country can get this right. UK, Germany and France also recently upped their restrictions but still have schools open :/

How is going back to square one "getting this right"?

You still don't get it. In other places they realize schools are important and that they have to start finding ways to educate their kids in person. This isn't square one. There are protections in place that we didn't understand in March. There is also data showing that places that have opened schools aren't seeing the massive outbreaks and that WTU has overplayed their hand. In reality, opening is a starting point and things will need to be tweeked as they go, but the WTU is dug in and won't let anything begin.

Countries that have kept schools open are shutting down their countries again. IT'S NOT WORKING. But hey, I get that you don't give a crap about anyone but yourself, so that's fine with you as long as YOUR kids get to go to school so YOU can go back to work. We get it.

What you're missing is that in those countries there's nothing pointing to the schools as driving the amount of spread that's leading to lockdowns. Schools don't appear to be a significant factor in transmission and the WTU position refuses to even consider that information. The wave that those countries are facing may in fact be coming in the US and we should be thinking ahead to how we might handle it, but we also should be thinking about how to start getting our kids back in person.

Not really phased by your personal attacks. I've been working in person since spring. It's reality for many more that the WTU rhetoric indicates.

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Anonymous wrote:I support teachers and choice. As long as their is a DL option while we’re in a pandemic, then that’s fine with me.

Wow. Do you realize how long it will be a "pandemic"? So DL well into 2021 for you?

How about if we put it another way: will you still be stomping and complaining in Fall of 2021 about the changes we've all had to make to our lives because of the pandemic?

If kids are not in school in Fall 2021, I will be horrified, yes. "Stomping and complaining" is such a weird way to phrase it. I'm kind of concluding that you don't understand what this is all about - you honestly believe that it's just a nice extra for society to provide education to its children? And that it's "stomping and complaining" to be horrified that the powers that be are apparently perfectly fine with no school indefinitely now? I'm surprised, but I guess I shouldn't be. We're seeing a progressive decay of all public goods, as they get shifted from "things society provides because they're good for everyone" to "you're on your own here, kid, everyone has to look out for their own self interests." I saw this happen with college tuition, but I never dreamed I would see it happen so rapidly with elementary school. SMH.

I agree with all of this, and would like to add that to me (as a liberal from Europe) it is particularly shocking to see this process now being driven and this attitude be displayed by American liberals. I always thought the "you are on your own" mentality was a Republican thing. Now it's liberals screaming "nobody owes you free childcare!" and "what's the big deal about having to homeschool your kids!". SMH indeed.

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Anonymous wrote:I support teachers and choice. As long as their is a DL option while we’re in a pandemic, then that’s fine with me.

Wow. Do you realize how long it will be a "pandemic"? So DL well into 2021 for you?

How about if we put it another way: will you still be stomping and complaining in Fall of 2021 about the changes we've all had to make to our lives because of the pandemic?

If kids are not in school in Fall 2021, I will be horrified, yes. "Stomping and complaining" is such a weird way to phrase it. I'm kind of concluding that you don't understand what this is all about - you honestly believe that it's just a nice extra for society to provide education to its children? And that it's "stomping and complaining" to be horrified that the powers that be are apparently perfectly fine with no school indefinitely now? I'm surprised, but I guess I shouldn't be. We're seeing a progressive decay of all public goods, as they get shifted from "things society provides because they're good for everyone" to "you're on your own here, kid, everyone has to look out for their own self interests." I saw this happen with college tuition, but I never dreamed I would see it happen so rapidly with elementary school. SMH.

I agree with all of this, and would like to add that to me (as a liberal from Europe) it is particularly shocking to see this process now being driven and this attitude be displayed by American liberals. I always thought the "you are on your own" mentality was a Republican thing. Now it's liberals screaming "nobody owes you free childcare!" and "what's the big deal about having to homeschool your kids!". SMH indeed.

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Anonymous wrote:I support teachers and choice. As long as their is a DL option while we’re in a pandemic, then that’s fine with me.

Wow. Do you realize how long it will be a "pandemic"? So DL well into 2021 for you?

How about if we put it another way: will you still be stomping and complaining in Fall of 2021 about the changes we've all had to make to our lives because of the pandemic?

If kids are not in school in Fall 2021, I will be horrified, yes. "Stomping and complaining" is such a weird way to phrase it. I'm kind of concluding that you don't understand what this is all about - you honestly believe that it's just a nice extra for society to provide education to its children? And that it's "stomping and complaining" to be horrified that the powers that be are apparently perfectly fine with no school indefinitely now? I'm surprised, but I guess I shouldn't be. We're seeing a progressive decay of all public goods, as they get shifted from "things society provides because they're good for everyone" to "you're on your own here, kid, everyone has to look out for their own self interests." I saw this happen with college tuition, but I never dreamed I would see it happen so rapidly with elementary school. SMH.

I agree with all of this, and would like to add that to me (as a liberal from Europe) it is particularly shocking to see this process now being driven and this attitude be displayed by American liberals. I always thought the "you are on your own" mentality was a Republican thing. Now it's liberals screaming "nobody owes you free childcare!" and "what's the big deal about having to homeschool your kids!". SMH indeed.

You are misrepresenting the argument. People are saying that this plan does too little. DCPS should come up with a better plan that helps more students. They could have started Cares in September. Why didn’t they? Why have they not hired staff for Cares instead of trying to grab HS staff? Some of us want accountability for DCPS which will help all kids including the most vulnerable

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Anonymous wrote:To answer OP question: for how long? I am OK with my kids staying at home the whole school year. I am enjoying my extra time with them. They'll probably get a lot more years of in-person schooling later on in the future, so I'm good with this year at home.

I'm ok with distance learning all year if necessary. My mother-in-law grew up during World War II and didn't go to school for years. She is a very solid intelligent person that grew up to be a chemist. It will be fine.

I used to be a teacher in Ward 8 and am tired of people using at-risk students as a pawns in their arguments and stating that teachers don't care. Ridiculous. The achievement gap has been an issue in the District for decades and its wouldn't have been resolved by this plan. There needs to be other interventions and investments.

+1, most people haven't been in the communities they are talking about.

Oh yeah, fighting to keep kids out of school is so progressive and anti-racist!!!