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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid. [/b]

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.[/quote]
Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. [b]If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school. [/quote][/b]

If you do that (as I have already, for the year at least), you may find that the demands of the WTU and American ideas about what is "safe" go way beyond what other countries have done to successfully open schools. In Germany, all they are doing is wear masks at school but NOT while sitting in the classroom, keep kids in cohorts, wash hands frequently, not share supplies, and open the windows on a regular basis. Quarantine the kid's or teacher's closest contacts when someone tests positive. And despite rising community spread (likely due to travel and adults letting their guard down in general and congregating in various places), they have few cases in schools and no outbreaks. It's not as hard as Americans make it out to be.[/quote]

Every thread.  You tell the exact same story about Germany.  Could you at least change it up?  Give some new info, new anecdote about your travels, talk about the people who may riot because of new mask rules?  ANYTHING that could be some new info[/quote]

DP. Why are you so triggered by the fact that other countries — heck other US cities and schools — can manage to keep schools open? Causes a little cognitive dissonance I guess. [/quote]

They're going back into lock downs and curfews. That seems like successful outcomes of reopening schools to you?[/quote]

they’re locking down everything else and keeping schools open. And their schools have been open all along. [/quote]

Yep. There's a post article up right now about that happening in Canada
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And Switzerland and Austria. It's so upsetting that every other country can get this right. UK, Germany and France also recently upped their restrictions but still have schools open :/[/quote]

How is going back to square one "getting this right"? [/quote]

You still don't get it. In other places they realize schools are important and that they have to start finding ways to educate their kids in person. This isn't square one. There are protections in place that we didn't understand in March. There is also data showing that places that have opened schools aren't seeing the massive outbreaks and that WTU has overplayed their hand. In reality, opening is a starting point and things will need to be tweeked as they go, but the WTU is dug in and won't let anything begin.

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Countries that have kept schools open are shutting down their countries again. IT'S NOT WORKING. But hey, I get that you don't give a crap about anyone but yourself, so that's fine with you as long as YOUR kids get to go to school so YOU can go back to work. We get it.[/quote]

Ah, this is so true. These countries that have kept schools open ARE shutting down their countries to contain the spread, which is evidence that keeping the schools open was responsible. Not the the US where schools were the first thing to close and the last thing to open, and we have definitely managed to control the spread.

Do you guys ever like...think about the things you're saying?[/quote]

Do you ever like....read the research and the evidence that shows what you are saying isn't true?[/quote]

Oh dear. That was sarcasm. I was restating the above person's clueless argument which seems to suggest that schools being open is a major driver of community spread.[/quote]

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