"I support the teachers" people

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I bet Jill Biden is very pro teacher because she actually knows what they do unlike you useless fools.

None of us are anti-teacher. Quite to the contrary. We are very pro-teacher. We want them to teach where they teach best and that is in the classroom. What we are against is a public sector union engaging in absurd posturing that exploits and aggravates unfounded fears during an unprecedented global crisis in order to extract ridiculous concessions for its adult members while denying tens of thousands of children - many of which fell desperately below learning standards before this crisis - the education enjoyed by their peers in almost all of the rest of the country and undermining, for years to come, a historically-underperforming public school district that was, slowly but surely, on its way up. No one who cares about public education or children endorses what you are doing. Useless fools yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet Jill Biden is very pro teacher because she actually knows what they do unlike you useless fools.

None of us are anti-teacher. Quite to the contrary. We are very pro-teacher. We want them to teach where they teach best and that is in the classroom. What we are against is a public sector union engaging in absurd posturing that exploits and aggravates unfounded fears during an unprecedented global crisis in order to extract ridiculous concessions for its adult members while denying tens of thousands of children - many of which fell desperately below learning standards before this crisis - the education enjoyed by their peers in almost all of the rest of the country and undermining, for years to come, a historically-underperforming public school district that was, slowly but surely, on its way up. No one who cares about public education or children endorses what you are doing. Useless fools yourself.

Very well said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet Jill Biden is very pro teacher because she actually knows what they do unlike you useless fools.

None of us are anti-teacher. Quite to the contrary. We are very pro-teacher. We want them to teach where they teach best and that is in the classroom. What we are against is a public sector union engaging in absurd posturing that exploits and aggravates unfounded fears during an unprecedented global crisis in order to extract ridiculous concessions for its adult members while denying tens of thousands of children - many of which fell desperately below learning standards before this crisis - the education enjoyed by their peers in almost all of the rest of the country and undermining, for years to come, a historically-underperforming public school district that was, slowly but surely, on its way up. No one who cares about public education or children endorses what you are doing. Useless fools yourself.

Maybe not you, but there are most certainly people on this board who are anti-teacher. How else would you interpret posts about lazy teachers who don't care about kids, don't want to do any work, don't want to think about student need?

As a special education teacher at an east of the park school, I am certainly well aware of the needs of students, and I am not opposed to going back to in-person teaching. I was, however, strongly opposed to this plan that was put together by the mayor and the chancellor. At most schools, it would have given benefit to very few students and sacrificed so many more.

I also simply DID NOT believe that schools would be ready for an opening today and, if you look through the DCPS readiness checklists available online, most of the schools are, in fact, not ready to reopen. While schools west of the park might be able to supplement financial need with PTA funds, my school does not have that. Should it really be on me as the teacher to put my money into the school to ensure safety? It has been 8 months, the district should have been able to get the buildings prepared (to even their own standard) by now. I do not see any reason why students or teachers should be forced to go back to buildings until the buildings meet DCPS' own standards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet Jill Biden is very pro teacher because she actually knows what they do unlike you useless fools.

None of us are anti-teacher. Quite to the contrary. We are very pro-teacher. We want them to teach where they teach best and that is in the classroom. What we are against is a public sector union engaging in absurd posturing that exploits and aggravates unfounded fears during an unprecedented global crisis in order to extract ridiculous concessions for its adult members while denying tens of thousands of children - many of which fell desperately below learning standards before this crisis - the education enjoyed by their peers in almost all of the rest of the country and undermining, for years to come, a historically-underperforming public school district that was, slowly but surely, on its way up. No one who cares about public education or children endorses what you are doing. Useless fools yourself.

They are teaching. Stop acting like they are not teaching. Who are you to say its best in the classroom when public health officials have said otherwise and schools that are opening are shutting down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet Jill Biden is very pro teacher because she actually knows what they do unlike you useless fools.

None of us are anti-teacher. Quite to the contrary. We are very pro-teacher. We want them to teach where they teach best and that is in the classroom. What we are against is a public sector union engaging in absurd posturing that exploits and aggravates unfounded fears during an unprecedented global crisis in order to extract ridiculous concessions for its adult members while denying tens of thousands of children - many of which fell desperately below learning standards before this crisis - the education enjoyed by their peers in almost all of the rest of the country and undermining, for years to come, a historically-underperforming public school district that was, slowly but surely, on its way up. No one who cares about public education or children endorses what you are doing. Useless fools yourself.

Maybe not you, but there are most certainly people on this board who are anti-teacher. How else would you interpret posts about lazy teachers who don't care about kids, don't want to do any work, don't want to think about student need?

As a special education teacher at an east of the park school, I am certainly well aware of the needs of students, and I am not opposed to going back to in-person teaching. I was, however, strongly opposed to this plan that was put together by the mayor and the chancellor. At most schools, it would have given benefit to very few students and sacrificed so many more.

I also simply DID NOT believe that schools would be ready for an opening today and, if you look through the DCPS readiness checklists available online, most of the schools are, in fact, not ready to reopen. While schools west of the park might be able to supplement financial need with PTA funds, my school does not have that. Should it really be on me as the teacher to put my money into the school to ensure safety? It has been 8 months, the district should have been able to get the buildings prepared (to even their own standard) by now. I do not see any reason why students or teachers should be forced to go back to buildings until the buildings meet DCPS' own standards.

These folks want to scream about all the kids you teach need to go back but they have the funds to supplement. They have no idea what conditions you work under and what the needs of your school are nor are they willing to help. Why don't they step up and donate cleaning supplies, masks, barriers, and everything else needed. And, donate money to repair the schools. They have no idea of what some of those school buildings are like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet Jill Biden is very pro teacher because she actually knows what they do unlike you useless fools.

None of us are anti-teacher. Quite to the contrary. We are very pro-teacher. We want them to teach where they teach best and that is in the classroom. What we are against is a public sector union engaging in absurd posturing that exploits and aggravates unfounded fears during an unprecedented global crisis in order to extract ridiculous concessions for its adult members while denying tens of thousands of children - many of which fell desperately below learning standards before this crisis - the education enjoyed by their peers in almost all of the rest of the country and undermining, for years to come, a historically-underperforming public school district that was, slowly but surely, on its way up. No one who cares about public education or children endorses what you are doing. Useless fools yourself.

They are teaching. Stop acting like they are not teaching. Who are you to say its best in the classroom when public health officials have said otherwise and schools that are opening are shutting down.

How to weigh the interests of kids, parents, teachers, and other groups is something that public health officials are as entitled to weigh in on as anyone else, but they don't hold a monopoly on it. We're being risk-averse when it comes to short-term, visible costs, but none of us knows what the effect of a year+ of lost schooling will be on the many kids who are not participating in distance learning. Or what the effect will be of so many women leaving their jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet Jill Biden is very pro teacher because she actually knows what they do unlike you useless fools.

None of us are anti-teacher. Quite to the contrary. We are very pro-teacher. We want them to teach where they teach best and that is in the classroom. What we are against is a public sector union engaging in absurd posturing that exploits and aggravates unfounded fears during an unprecedented global crisis in order to extract ridiculous concessions for its adult members while denying tens of thousands of children - many of which fell desperately below learning standards before this crisis - the education enjoyed by their peers in almost all of the rest of the country and undermining, for years to come, a historically-underperforming public school district that was, slowly but surely, on its way up. No one who cares about public education or children endorses what you are doing. Useless fools yourself.

They are teaching. Stop acting like they are not teaching. Who are you to say its best in the classroom when public health officials have said otherwise and schools that are opening are shutting down.

How to weigh the interests of kids, parents, teachers, and other groups is something that public health officials are as entitled to weigh in on as anyone else, but they don't hold a monopoly on it. We're being risk-averse when it comes to short-term, visible costs, but none of us knows what the effect of a year+ of lost schooling will be on the many kids who are not participating in distance learning. Or what the effect will be of so many women leaving their jobs.

You aren't risk adverse if you are demanding in school learning. Stop pretending you are. Many of us left our jobs pre-covid to be caretakers. That is nothing new. Or, you pay for child care. Teachers are teaching. Public health officials opinions are important. Your priorities are backward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet Jill Biden is very pro teacher because she actually knows what they do unlike you useless fools.

None of us are anti-teacher. Quite to the contrary. We are very pro-teacher. We want them to teach where they teach best and that is in the classroom. What we are against is a public sector union engaging in absurd posturing that exploits and aggravates unfounded fears during an unprecedented global crisis in order to extract ridiculous concessions for its adult members while denying tens of thousands of children - many of which fell desperately below learning standards before this crisis - the education enjoyed by their peers in almost all of the rest of the country and undermining, for years to come, a historically-underperforming public school district that was, slowly but surely, on its way up. No one who cares about public education or children endorses what you are doing. Useless fools yourself.

You don’t get to decide when we go back or how we should do our jobs. Most of us want to go back but the plan DCPS put forth was terrible. I’m a HS teacher and many of my students are suffering. High schools need a plan too. Instead they were trying to strip our staff away. They could have had outdoor sports but the mayor refused that as well. You have no idea how much distrust there is between teachers and central office but perhaps you can wave a magic wand and everything will just work out. I was willing to go back in September but there was no plan then. Now with a Covid surge + flu season, no thanks. This is not easy on anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet Jill Biden is very pro teacher because she actually knows what they do unlike you useless fools.

None of us are anti-teacher. Quite to the contrary. We are very pro-teacher. We want them to teach where they teach best and that is in the classroom. What we are against is a public sector union engaging in absurd posturing that exploits and aggravates unfounded fears during an unprecedented global crisis in order to extract ridiculous concessions for its adult members while denying tens of thousands of children - many of which fell desperately below learning standards before this crisis - the education enjoyed by their peers in almost all of the rest of the country and undermining, for years to come, a historically-underperforming public school district that was, slowly but surely, on its way up. No one who cares about public education or children endorses what you are doing. Useless fools yourself.

Maybe not you, but there are most certainly people on this board who are anti-teacher. How else would you interpret posts about lazy teachers who don't care about kids, don't want to do any work, don't want to think about student need?

As a special education teacher at an east of the park school, I am certainly well aware of the needs of students, and I am not opposed to going back to in-person teaching. I was, however, strongly opposed to this plan that was put together by the mayor and the chancellor. At most schools, it would have given benefit to very few students and sacrificed so many more.

I also simply DID NOT believe that schools would be ready for an opening today and, if you look through the DCPS readiness checklists available online, most of the schools are, in fact, not ready to reopen. While schools west of the park might be able to supplement financial need with PTA funds, my school does not have that. Should it really be on me as the teacher to put my money into the school to ensure safety? It has been 8 months, the district should have been able to get the buildings prepared (to even their own standard) by now. I do not see any reason why students or teachers should be forced to go back to buildings until the buildings meet DCPS' own standards.

These folks want to scream about all the kids you teach need to go back but they have the funds to supplement. They have no idea what conditions you work under and what the needs of your school are nor are they willing to help. Why don't they step up and donate cleaning supplies, masks, barriers, and everything else needed. And, donate money to repair the schools. They have no idea of what some of those school buildings are like.

I'm going to to out on a teeny tiny limb and bet that if you said to PTA's "hey we need $XX for cleaning supplies to open", then parents would do it in a heartbeat. Cleaning supplies are probably far less expensive than what we are paying individually for tutors, etc.

Also, there is a dashboard showing which building are ready and which are not, so all of us can know: https://dcpsreopenstrong.com/school-plans/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet Jill Biden is very pro teacher because she actually knows what they do unlike you useless fools.

None of us are anti-teacher. Quite to the contrary. We are very pro-teacher. We want them to teach where they teach best and that is in the classroom. What we are against is a public sector union engaging in absurd posturing that exploits and aggravates unfounded fears during an unprecedented global crisis in order to extract ridiculous concessions for its adult members while denying tens of thousands of children - many of which fell desperately below learning standards before this crisis - the education enjoyed by their peers in almost all of the rest of the country and undermining, for years to come, a historically-underperforming public school district that was, slowly but surely, on its way up. No one who cares about public education or children endorses what you are doing. Useless fools yourself.

Very well said.

Indeed not. The poster wastes their eloquence on the false premise that it is safe to return to school buildings. It's not. Stop it with the red herrings of under-served kids and selfish unions. None of these ills are anywhere near as bad as more deaths.

As another poster said, you can correct for a temporary lack of education. You can't reverse death.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet Jill Biden is very pro teacher because she actually knows what they do unlike you useless fools.

None of us are anti-teacher. Quite to the contrary. We are very pro-teacher. We want them to teach where they teach best and that is in the classroom. What we are against is a public sector union engaging in absurd posturing that exploits and aggravates unfounded fears during an unprecedented global crisis in order to extract ridiculous concessions for its adult members while denying tens of thousands of children - many of which fell desperately below learning standards before this crisis - the education enjoyed by their peers in almost all of the rest of the country and undermining, for years to come, a historically-underperforming public school district that was, slowly but surely, on its way up. No one who cares about public education or children endorses what you are doing. Useless fools yourself.

Very well said.

Indeed not. The poster wastes their eloquence on the false premise that it is safe to return to school buildings. It's not. Stop it with the red herrings of under-served kids and selfish unions. None of these ills are anywhere near as bad as more deaths.

As another poster said, you can correct for a temporary lack of education. You can't reverse death.

We are irrevocably negatively affecting educational and economic outcomes for some number of kids. We don't know how many or what the magnitude will be. It's all a guess. Kids will drop out of school and never come back. Kids who were already behind on literacy will never recover. It's not like we do so well with education in the best of years. Yes, that translates into lost years of life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet Jill Biden is very pro teacher because she actually knows what they do unlike you useless fools.

None of us are anti-teacher. Quite to the contrary. We are very pro-teacher. We want them to teach where they teach best and that is in the classroom. What we are against is a public sector union engaging in absurd posturing that exploits and aggravates unfounded fears during an unprecedented global crisis in order to extract ridiculous concessions for its adult members while denying tens of thousands of children - many of which fell desperately below learning standards before this crisis - the education enjoyed by their peers in almost all of the rest of the country and undermining, for years to come, a historically-underperforming public school district that was, slowly but surely, on its way up. No one who cares about public education or children endorses what you are doing. Useless fools yourself.

Maybe not you, but there are most certainly people on this board who are anti-teacher. How else would you interpret posts about lazy teachers who don't care about kids, don't want to do any work, don't want to think about student need?

As a special education teacher at an east of the park school, I am certainly well aware of the needs of students, and I am not opposed to going back to in-person teaching. I was, however, strongly opposed to this plan that was put together by the mayor and the chancellor. At most schools, it would have given benefit to very few students and sacrificed so many more.

I also simply DID NOT believe that schools would be ready for an opening today and, if you look through the DCPS readiness checklists available online, most of the schools are, in fact, not ready to reopen. While schools west of the park might be able to supplement financial need with PTA funds, my school does not have that. Should it really be on me as the teacher to put my money into the school to ensure safety? It has been 8 months, the district should have been able to get the buildings prepared (to even their own standard) by now. I do not see any reason why students or teachers should be forced to go back to buildings until the buildings meet DCPS' own standards.

These folks want to scream about all the kids you teach need to go back but they have the funds to supplement. They have no idea what conditions you work under and what the needs of your school are nor are they willing to help. Why don't they step up and donate cleaning supplies, masks, barriers, and everything else needed. And, donate money to repair the schools. They have no idea of what some of those school buildings are like.

I'm going to to out on a teeny tiny limb and bet that if you said to PTA's "hey we need $XX for cleaning supplies to open", then parents would do it in a heartbeat. Cleaning supplies are probably far less expensive than what we are paying individually for tutors, etc.

Also, there is a dashboard showing which building are ready and which are not, so all of us can know: https://dcpsreopenstrong.com/school-plans/

I am the PP special education teacher above.

I am absolutely sure that PTAs will put money into the schools where their own children attend, that really wasn't the point. The question is whether all of these parents paying for tutors, etc., as you say, will put the money into the schools east of the park that are, and will not be, ready for return any time soon. The PTA at my school raised, in an entire year, barely more than one parent would pay in PTA dues at some west of the park schools. Or are we only going to open the schools where parents can financially support the reopening? That would mean that my students, who do desperately need to get back into the school building, would not be getting back to the building any time soon. I desperately want to get back into the school building, and I do not support the WTU's extreme position, but I will not go back to teaching in person until DCPS can meet the reopening safety standards that it set for itself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet Jill Biden is very pro teacher because she actually knows what they do unlike you useless fools.

None of us are anti-teacher. Quite to the contrary. We are very pro-teacher. We want them to teach where they teach best and that is in the classroom. What we are against is a public sector union engaging in absurd posturing that exploits and aggravates unfounded fears during an unprecedented global crisis in order to extract ridiculous concessions for its adult members while denying tens of thousands of children - many of which fell desperately below learning standards before this crisis - the education enjoyed by their peers in almost all of the rest of the country and undermining, for years to come, a historically-underperforming public school district that was, slowly but surely, on its way up. No one who cares about public education or children endorses what you are doing. Useless fools yourself.

Very well said.

Indeed not. The poster wastes their eloquence on the false premise that it is safe to return to school buildings. It's not. Stop it with the red herrings of under-served kids and selfish unions. None of these ills are anywhere near as bad as more deaths.

As another poster said, you can correct for a temporary lack of education. You can't reverse death.

We are irrevocably negatively affecting educational and economic outcomes for some number of kids. We don't know how many or what the magnitude will be. It's all a guess. Kids will drop out of school and never come back. Kids who were already behind on literacy will never recover. It's not like we do so well with education in the best of years. Yes, that translates into lost years of life.

You realize all that is normal with in person learning too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet Jill Biden is very pro teacher because she actually knows what they do unlike you useless fools.

None of us are anti-teacher. Quite to the contrary. We are very pro-teacher. We want them to teach where they teach best and that is in the classroom. What we are against is a public sector union engaging in absurd posturing that exploits and aggravates unfounded fears during an unprecedented global crisis in order to extract ridiculous concessions for its adult members while denying tens of thousands of children - many of which fell desperately below learning standards before this crisis - the education enjoyed by their peers in almost all of the rest of the country and undermining, for years to come, a historically-underperforming public school district that was, slowly but surely, on its way up. No one who cares about public education or children endorses what you are doing. Useless fools yourself.

Maybe not you, but there are most certainly people on this board who are anti-teacher. How else would you interpret posts about lazy teachers who don't care about kids, don't want to do any work, don't want to think about student need?

As a special education teacher at an east of the park school, I am certainly well aware of the needs of students, and I am not opposed to going back to in-person teaching. I was, however, strongly opposed to this plan that was put together by the mayor and the chancellor. At most schools, it would have given benefit to very few students and sacrificed so many more.

I also simply DID NOT believe that schools would be ready for an opening today and, if you look through the DCPS readiness checklists available online, most of the schools are, in fact, not ready to reopen. While schools west of the park might be able to supplement financial need with PTA funds, my school does not have that. Should it really be on me as the teacher to put my money into the school to ensure safety? It has been 8 months, the district should have been able to get the buildings prepared (to even their own standard) by now. I do not see any reason why students or teachers should be forced to go back to buildings until the buildings meet DCPS' own standards.

These folks want to scream about all the kids you teach need to go back but they have the funds to supplement. They have no idea what conditions you work under and what the needs of your school are nor are they willing to help. Why don't they step up and donate cleaning supplies, masks, barriers, and everything else needed. And, donate money to repair the schools. They have no idea of what some of those school buildings are like.

I'm going to to out on a teeny tiny limb and bet that if you said to PTA's "hey we need $XX for cleaning supplies to open", then parents would do it in a heartbeat. Cleaning supplies are probably far less expensive than what we are paying individually for tutors, etc.

Also, there is a dashboard showing which building are ready and which are not, so all of us can know: https://dcpsreopenstrong.com/school-plans/

I am the PP special education teacher above.

I am absolutely sure that PTAs will put money into the schools where their own children attend, that really wasn't the point. The question is whether all of these parents paying for tutors, etc., as you say, will put the money into the schools east of the park that are, and will not be, ready for return any time soon. The PTA at my school raised, in an entire year, barely more than one parent would pay in PTA dues at some west of the park schools. Or are we only going to open the schools where parents can financially support the reopening? That would mean that my students, who do desperately need to get back into the school building, would not be getting back to the building any time soon. I desperately want to get back into the school building, and I do not support the WTU's extreme position, but I will not go back to teaching in person until DCPS can meet the reopening safety standards that it set for itself.

If they haven't done anything to help your and other schools in the past, realistically we can assume they will not do anything in the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet Jill Biden is very pro teacher because she actually knows what they do unlike you useless fools.

None of us are anti-teacher. Quite to the contrary. We are very pro-teacher. We want them to teach where they teach best and that is in the classroom. What we are against is a public sector union engaging in absurd posturing that exploits and aggravates unfounded fears during an unprecedented global crisis in order to extract ridiculous concessions for its adult members while denying tens of thousands of children - many of which fell desperately below learning standards before this crisis - the education enjoyed by their peers in almost all of the rest of the country and undermining, for years to come, a historically-underperforming public school district that was, slowly but surely, on its way up. No one who cares about public education or children endorses what you are doing. Useless fools yourself.

Maybe not you, but there are most certainly people on this board who are anti-teacher. How else would you interpret posts about lazy teachers who don't care about kids, don't want to do any work, don't want to think about student need?

As a special education teacher at an east of the park school, I am certainly well aware of the needs of students, and I am not opposed to going back to in-person teaching. I was, however, strongly opposed to this plan that was put together by the mayor and the chancellor. At most schools, it would have given benefit to very few students and sacrificed so many more.

I also simply DID NOT believe that schools would be ready for an opening today and, if you look through the DCPS readiness checklists available online, most of the schools are, in fact, not ready to reopen. While schools west of the park might be able to supplement financial need with PTA funds, my school does not have that. Should it really be on me as the teacher to put my money into the school to ensure safety? It has been 8 months, the district should have been able to get the buildings prepared (to even their own standard) by now. I do not see any reason why students or teachers should be forced to go back to buildings until the buildings meet DCPS' own standards.

These folks want to scream about all the kids you teach need to go back but they have the funds to supplement. They have no idea what conditions you work under and what the needs of your school are nor are they willing to help. Why don't they step up and donate cleaning supplies, masks, barriers, and everything else needed. And, donate money to repair the schools. They have no idea of what some of those school buildings are like.

I'm going to to out on a teeny tiny limb and bet that if you said to PTA's "hey we need $XX for cleaning supplies to open", then parents would do it in a heartbeat. Cleaning supplies are probably far less expensive than what we are paying individually for tutors, etc.

Also, there is a dashboard showing which building are ready and which are not, so all of us can know: https://dcpsreopenstrong.com/school-plans/

We are at a very low income school like the teacher posted. Our PTA barely has any money and people are trying to feed their families and pay their rent. They would probably try to donate but most simply don't have the money for it.