We visited UVA this weekend...

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It can only

take so many student (this year @676) from No. VA. 76 of those alone (mostly Asian Americans) come from T.J.

You're confusing people who go to UVA with people who were accepted. For those 676 who go to UVA, there are probably about 600 more who were accepted and declined went to other schools.

I don't' think I'm confusing anything. Scroll down to Enrolled by county. 670 from FCPS, 200 Loudon, etc., down to zero or one from the outlying west and southern counties. http://digital.uvamagazine.org/articles/2020-insight/. I don't know anyone who has turned down UVA for another school except for one truly exceptional student who received both the Jefferson Scholar offer and Princeton. He chose Princeton full freight over the Jefferson (free ride).

You must be joking. UVA is a safety school for those in serious running for Ivies or top SLACs. Many of the kids who are accepted into those schools turn down UVA.

Well, my son will. He certainly has the stats, but there are other schools in the us that offer him more.

Please post back in a year after you've been through the mill.

Are you serious? At my kid's HS, UVA accepts 40-50 every year and only 20-25 go. UVA is a safety for plenty of kids.

That's exactly what I said. Same 50 or 60 out of a class of 450. Those are the lucky ones which the school supports and they get the options, although, frankly, i don't know anyone in NOVA who turned down UVA because, financially, it makes so much sense. Save the money for grad school. The fact of the matter is that there aren't enough seats for the talented students in NOVA who want to attend UVA, W&M, etc. UVA has to take from across the state, all states, and 84 countries. I would like to see the OOS limited to 20% (it's currently 47%) as the UC system is doing. But that's because I'm in NOVA and know what it takes to get your high school to take your student's application to UVA seriously.

[Anonymous]

I'm not sure where your OOS numbers are coming from, but from UVA's website:

68% Virginian
32% Non-Virginian


Estimated Tuition

$11,892
2016-17 1st?Year Students, In?State, College of Arts & Sciences

$40,506
2016-17 1st?Year Students, Out?of?State, College of Arts & Sciences

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure where your OOS numbers are coming from, but from UVA's website:

68% Virginian
32% Non-Virginian


Estimated Tuition

$11,892
2016-17 1st?Year Students, In?State, College of Arts & Sciences

$40,506
2016-17 1st?Year Students, Out?of?State, College of Arts & Sciences

The problem with state schools is that the in-state students are going to be fairly average. Even a good school like UVA is accepting over 40% of in-state applicants.....not exactly the best and brightest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure where your OOS numbers are coming from, but from UVA's website:

68% Virginian
32% Non-Virginian


Estimated Tuition

$11,892
2016-17 1st?Year Students, In?State, College of Arts & Sciences

$40,506
2016-17 1st?Year Students, Out?of?State, College of Arts & Sciences

The problem with state schools is that the in-state students are going to be fairly average. Even a good school like UVA is accepting over 40% of in-state applicants.....not exactly the best and brightest.

I get so tired of people quoting this statistic as a way to argue that the kids getting into UVA are not that bright. Ninety-four percent of them are in the top ten percent of their graduating class - if they aren't the state's best and brightest, I don't know who is.

In my own personal experience of having 3 DCs from NOVA in top private and top public HSs apply to colleges over the past 4 years, I can unequivocally state that the students I know who were admitted to UVA were exactly the best and brighest. These same students were admitted to all of the Ivies, Duke, Stanford, MIT, top 10 SLACs, etc. Some chose UVA, some chose one of these other schools for a variety of reasons, including financial. If you think that is fairly average you're nuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem with state schools is that the in-state students are going to be fairly average. Even a good school like UVA is accepting over 40% of in-state applicants.....not exactly the best and brightest.

39% this year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with state schools is that the in-state students are going to be fairly average. Even a good school like UVA is accepting over 40% of in-state applicants.....not exactly the best and brightest.

39% this year.

NOVA is filled with some of the best and the brightest in the country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure where your OOS numbers are coming from, but from UVA's website:

68% Virginian
32% Non-Virginian


Estimated Tuition

$11,892
2016-17 1st?Year Students, In?State, College of Arts & Sciences

$40,506
2016-17 1st?Year Students, Out?of?State, College of Arts & Sciences

The problem with state schools is that the in-state students are going to be fairly average. Even a good school like UVA is accepting over 40% of in-state applicants.....not exactly the best and brightest.

I get so tired of people quoting this statistic as a way to argue that the kids getting into UVA are not that bright. Ninety-four percent of them are in the top ten percent of their graduating class - if they aren't the state's best and brightest, I don't know who is.

In my own personal experience of having 3 DCs from NOVA in top private and top public HSs apply to colleges over the past 4 years, I can unequivocally state that the students I know who were admitted to UVA were exactly the best and brighest. These same students were admitted to all of the Ivies, Duke, Stanford, MIT, top 10 SLACs, etc. Some chose UVA, some chose one of these other schools for a variety of reasons, including financial. If you think that is fairly average you're nuts.

Yes, they may very well be the state's best and brightest but that isn't saying much. You understand the difference between having to fish in the small VA applicant pool vs. the broader applicant pool?

[Anonymous]

Enjoy George Mason, OP! It's up and coming...year...after...year...after...year...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure where your OOS numbers are coming from, but from UVA's website:

68% Virginian
32% Non-Virginian


Estimated Tuition

$11,892
2016-17 1st?Year Students, In?State, College of Arts & Sciences

$40,506
2016-17 1st?Year Students, Out?of?State, College of Arts & Sciences

The problem with state schools is that the in-state students are going to be fairly average. Even a good school like UVA is accepting over 40% of in-state applicants.....not exactly the best and brightest.

I get so tired of people quoting this statistic as a way to argue that the kids getting into UVA are not that bright. Ninety-four percent of them are in the top ten percent of their graduating class - if they aren't the state's best and brightest, I don't know who is.

In my own personal experience of having 3 DCs from NOVA in top private and top public HSs apply to colleges over the past 4 years, I can unequivocally state that the students I know who were admitted to UVA were exactly the best and brighest. These same students were admitted to all of the Ivies, Duke, Stanford, MIT, top 10 SLACs, etc. Some chose UVA, some chose one of these other schools for a variety of reasons, including financial. If you think that is fairly average you're nuts.

How can you compare the selectivity of the ivies which for the most part have acceptance rates of under 10% with UVA's in-state acceptance rate of 40%? That means UVA takes four times as many applicants from VA.....how can that not impact the quality of the student body? It's one thing to be defensive but it's entirely another to be ignorant of the facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure where your OOS numbers are coming from, but from UVA's website:

68% Virginian
32% Non-Virginian


Estimated Tuition

$11,892
2016-17 1st?Year Students, In?State, College of Arts & Sciences

$40,506
2016-17 1st?Year Students, Out?of?State, College of Arts & Sciences

The problem with state schools is that the in-state students are going to be fairly average. Even a good school like UVA is accepting over 40% of in-state applicants.....not exactly the best and brightest.

I get so tired of people quoting this statistic as a way to argue that the kids getting into UVA are not that bright. Ninety-four percent of them are in the top ten percent of their graduating class - if they aren't the state's best and brightest, I don't know who is.

In my own personal experience of having 3 DCs from NOVA in top private and top public HSs apply to colleges over the past 4 years, I can unequivocally state that the students I know who were admitted to UVA were exactly the best and brighest. These same students were admitted to all of the Ivies, Duke, Stanford, MIT, top 10 SLACs, etc. Some chose UVA, some chose one of these other schools for a variety of reasons, including financial. If you think that is fairly average you're nuts.

How can you compare the selectivity of the ivies which for the most part have acceptance rates of under 10% with UVA's in-state acceptance rate of 40%? That means UVA takes four times as many applicants from VA.....how can that not impact the quality of the student body? It's one thing to be defensive but it's entirely another to be ignorant of the facts.

Jealous?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure where your OOS numbers are coming from, but from UVA's website:

68% Virginian
32% Non-Virginian


Estimated Tuition

$11,892
2016-17 1st?Year Students, In?State, College of Arts & Sciences

$40,506
2016-17 1st?Year Students, Out?of?State, College of Arts & Sciences

The problem with state schools is that the in-state students are going to be fairly average. Even a good school like UVA is accepting over 40% of in-state applicants.....not exactly the best and brightest.

I get so tired of people quoting this statistic as a way to argue that the kids getting into UVA are not that bright. Ninety-four percent of them are in the top ten percent of their graduating class - if they aren't the state's best and brightest, I don't know who is.

In my own personal experience of having 3 DCs from NOVA in top private and top public HSs apply to colleges over the past 4 years, I can unequivocally state that the students I know who were admitted to UVA were exactly the best and brighest. These same students were admitted to all of the Ivies, Duke, Stanford, MIT, top 10 SLACs, etc. Some chose UVA, some chose one of these other schools for a variety of reasons, including financial. If you think that is fairly average you're nuts.

Yes, the ~10 students from my kid's school who got into Ivies (or equivalent) also got into UVA. An additional 30-40 kids who couldn't sniff the Ivies also got into UVA. Those are the kids that will be attending.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure where your OOS numbers are coming from, but from UVA's website:

68% Virginian
32% Non-Virginian


Estimated Tuition

$11,892
2016-17 1st?Year Students, In?State, College of Arts & Sciences

$40,506
2016-17 1st?Year Students, Out?of?State, College of Arts & Sciences

The problem with state schools is that the in-state students are going to be fairly average. Even a good school like UVA is accepting over 40% of in-state applicants.....not exactly the best and brightest.

I get so tired of people quoting this statistic as a way to argue that the kids getting into UVA are not that bright. Ninety-four percent of them are in the top ten percent of their graduating class - if they aren't the state's best and brightest, I don't know who is.

In my own personal experience of having 3 DCs from NOVA in top private and top public HSs apply to colleges over the past 4 years, I can unequivocally state that the students I know who were admitted to UVA were exactly the best and brighest. These same students were admitted to all of the Ivies, Duke, Stanford, MIT, top 10 SLACs, etc. Some chose UVA, some chose one of these other schools for a variety of reasons, including financial. If you think that is fairly average you're nuts.

Yes, the ~10 students from my kid's school who got into Ivies (or equivalent) also got into UVA. An additional 30-40 kids who couldn't sniff the Ivies also got into UVA. Those are the kids that will be attending.

If they could sniff the Ivies, they'd find our shit still smells the same.

Seriously, the applicants to UVA are a self-selected group to begin with, and the kids who get in are very bright. Most of them couldn't get into multiple Ivies, but some could, and there is nothing so unique about the Ivies in any event to warrant the level of condescension in your post.

- double Ivy grad

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure where your OOS numbers are coming from, but from UVA's website:

68% Virginian
32% Non-Virginian


Estimated Tuition

$11,892
2016-17 1st?Year Students, In?State, College of Arts & Sciences

$40,506
2016-17 1st?Year Students, Out?of?State, College of Arts & Sciences

The problem with state schools is that the in-state students are going to be fairly average. Even a good school like UVA is accepting over 40% of in-state applicants.....not exactly the best and brightest.

I get so tired of people quoting this statistic as a way to argue that the kids getting into UVA are not that bright. Ninety-four percent of them are in the top ten percent of their graduating class - if they aren't the state's best and brightest, I don't know who is.

In my own personal experience of having 3 DCs from NOVA in top private and top public HSs apply to colleges over the past 4 years, I can unequivocally state that the students I know who were admitted to UVA were exactly the best and brighest. These same students were admitted to all of the Ivies, Duke, Stanford, MIT, top 10 SLACs, etc. Some chose UVA, some chose one of these other schools for a variety of reasons, including financial. If you think that is fairly average you're nuts.

Yes, they may very well be the state's best and brightest but that isn't saying much. You understand the difference between having to fish in the small VA applicant pool vs. the broader applicant pool?

Yes, duh, I am an Ivy graduate myself, and am not arguing that in-state admission to UVA in the same as admission to HYP, etc. But you are an a$$ if you think that being one of Virginia's best and brightest isn't saying much, especially considering the incredibly intelligent and educated population of nova and the intense competition and stress those HS students are under to get into UVA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure where your OOS numbers are coming from, but from UVA's website:

68% Virginian
32% Non-Virginian


Estimated Tuition

$11,892
2016-17 1st?Year Students, In?State, College of Arts & Sciences

$40,506
2016-17 1st?Year Students, Out?of?State, College of Arts & Sciences

The problem with state schools is that the in-state students are going to be fairly average. Even a good school like UVA is accepting over 40% of in-state applicants.....not exactly the best and brightest.

I get so tired of people quoting this statistic as a way to argue that the kids getting into UVA are not that bright. Ninety-four percent of them are in the top ten percent of their graduating class - if they aren't the state's best and brightest, I don't know who is.

In my own personal experience of having 3 DCs from NOVA in top private and top public HSs apply to colleges over the past 4 years, I can unequivocally state that the students I know who were admitted to UVA were exactly the best and brighest. These same students were admitted to all of the Ivies, Duke, Stanford, MIT, top 10 SLACs, etc. Some chose UVA, some chose one of these other schools for a variety of reasons, including financial. If you think that is fairly average you're nuts.

Yes, the ~10 students from my kid's school who got into Ivies (or equivalent) also got into UVA. An additional 30-40 kids who couldn't sniff the Ivies also got into UVA. Those are the kids that will be attending.

I know kids who turned down Ivies for financial reasons who are attending UVA.

[Anonymous]

I kind of hate that perky dean and her dog. Ugggghhh