We visited UVA this weekend...

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think OP got into UVA. Greek row is stunningly beautiful. UVA keeps popping up as no. 1 or no. 2 for most beautiful on those never-ending ratings lists. My DD attends there and is involved in other clubs, not the greek scene, but I've driven by those buildings many times and don't know what OP is talking about.

Could you cite one of those rankings? TIA!

Here are some. PrepScholar says the average GPA at UVA is now 4.26. In DC's class, at convocation on the lawn , President Teresa Sullivan said that 93 or 94% of class of 2020 was in the top 10% of the class. 823 had perfect SATs. DC's class comes from all 50 states and 84 countries. Average ACT 30-to 34. DC's ACT was a 36. 4.15 GPA. National honors. Only two from his high school got in so I don't know where these people are coming from that say that 25% of their high school class attended. With the possible exception of T.J. (480 students in a class - sometimes 86 might go to UVA) that's impossible.

For the class of 2021 there was a surge of thousands applications over the norm (see stats. below). The biggest increase were from OOS and international students. Depending on the press release you read, 94.6% or "almost all" of the accepted students were in top ten percent of their high school class. Note 1,000 are first-generation college students and 33% URM.

Here's some google stats as of March 23:

"here are all the “unofficial” numbers released by the UVa admissions office:

Total number of applications: 36,807 (up from 32,426 last year)
Total number of VA applications: 10,942 (up from 9,653 last year)
Total number of out-of-state applications: 25,865 (up from 22,773)

Overall offers: 9,957 (9,416 this time last year)
Total VA offers: 4,276 or 39% of resident applications (4,019/41.6% last year)
Total out-of-state offers: 5,681 or 22% of nonresident applications (5,397/23.7% last year)

Note that the offers of admission for nonresidents are higher because historic yield for nonresidents is generally lower than that for in-state student.

In a press release, UVa reports that of those admitted, over 1,000 are first-generation college students and more than 35 percent identify as members of a minority group. They come from all 50 states and 89 countries around the world.

And they present outstanding credentials. For those admitted who submitted new SAT scores, the middle 50 percent range was 1330-1490 (Dean J notes that “way more” students submitted the new SAT than the old, so she dropped the stats about the old exam). The middle 50 percent ACT composite was 31-34. And 93.4 percent of admitted students were in the top ten percent of their high school class, for those who attend schools that report rank.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think OP got into UVA. Greek row is stunningly beautiful. UVA keeps popping up as no. 1 or no. 2 for most beautiful on those never-ending ratings lists. My DD attends there and is involved in other clubs, not the greek scene, but I've driven by those buildings many times and don't know what OP is talking about.

Could you cite one of those rankings? TIA!

Here are some. PrepScholar says the average GPA at UVA is now 4.26. In DC's class, at convocation on the lawn , President Teresa Sullivan said that 93 or 94% of class of 2020 was in the top 10% of the class. 823 had perfect SATs. DC's class comes from all 50 states and 84 countries. Average ACT 30-to 34. DC's ACT was a 36. 4.15 GPA. National honors. Only two from his high school got in so I don't know where these people are coming from that say that 25% of their high school class attended. With the possible exception of T.J. (480 students in a class - sometimes 86 might go to UVA) that's impossible.

For the class of 2021 there was a surge of thousands applications over the norm (see stats. below). The biggest increase were from OOS and international students. Depending on the press release you read, 94.6% or "almost all" of the accepted students were in top ten percent of their high school class. Note 1,000 are first-generation college students and 33% URM.

Here's some google stats as of March 23:

"here are all the “unofficial” numbers released by the UVa admissions office:

Total number of applications: 36,807 (up from 32,426 last year)
Total number of VA applications: 10,942 (up from 9,653 last year)
Total number of out-of-state applications: 25,865 (up from 22,773)

Overall offers: 9,957 (9,416 this time last year)
Total VA offers: 4,276 or 39% of resident applications (4,019/41.6% last year)
Total out-of-state offers: 5,681 or 22% of nonresident applications (5,397/23.7% last year)

Note that the offers of admission for nonresidents are higher because historic yield for nonresidents is generally lower than that for in-state student.

In a press release, UVa reports that of those admitted, over 1,000 are first-generation college students and more than 35 percent identify as members of a minority group. They come from all 50 states and 89 countries around the world.

And they present outstanding credentials. For those admitted who submitted new SAT scores, the middle 50 percent range was 1330-1490 (Dean J notes that “way more” students submitted the new SAT than the old, so she dropped the stats about the old exam). The middle 50 percent ACT composite was 31-34. And 93.4 percent of admitted students were in the top ten percent of their high school class, for those who attend schools that report rank.

Those aren't rankings.

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You want rankings? Here's one. https://news.virginia.edu/content/among-nations-elite-us-news-gives-uva-no-2-public-university-ranking

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure where your OOS numbers are coming from, but from UVA's website:

68% Virginian
32% Non-Virginian


Estimated Tuition

$11,892
2016-17 1st?Year Students, In?State, College of Arts & Sciences

$40,506
2016-17 1st?Year Students, Out?of?State, College of Arts & Sciences

The problem with state schools is that the in-state students are going to be fairly average. Even a good school like UVA is accepting over 40% of in-state applicants.....not exactly the best and brightest.

I get so tired of people quoting this statistic as a way to argue that the kids getting into UVA are not that bright. Ninety-four percent of them are in the top ten percent of their graduating class - if they aren't the state's best and brightest, I don't know who is.

In my own personal experience of having 3 DCs from NOVA in top private and top public HSs apply to colleges over the past 4 years, I can unequivocally state that the students I know who were admitted to UVA were exactly the best and brighest. These same students were admitted to all of the Ivies, Duke, Stanford, MIT, top 10 SLACs, etc. Some chose UVA, some chose one of these other schools for a variety of reasons, including financial. If you think that is fairly average you're nuts.

Yes, they may very well be the state's best and brightest but that isn't saying much. You understand the difference between having to fish in the small VA applicant pool vs. the broader applicant pool?

Yes, duh, I am an Ivy graduate myself, and am not arguing that in-state admission to UVA in the same as admission to HYP, etc. But you are an a$$ if you think that being one of Virginia's best and brightest isn't saying much, especially considering the incredibly intelligent and educated population of nova and the intense competition and stress those HS students are under to get into UVA.

Lots of cliched elitism in that post, but the essential point is correct.

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Or do you want no. 1 most beautiful campus rankings? There are a no. of them. Google UVA most beautiful campus. Here's one. http://www.bestcollegereviews.org/features/most-beautiful-college-campuses/

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure where your OOS numbers are coming from, but from UVA's website:

68% Virginian
32% Non-Virginian


Estimated Tuition

$11,892
2016-17 1st?Year Students, In?State, College of Arts & Sciences

$40,506
2016-17 1st?Year Students, Out?of?State, College of Arts & Sciences

The problem with state schools is that the in-state students are going to be fairly average. Even a good school like UVA is accepting over 40% of in-state applicants.....not exactly the best and brightest.

I get so tired of people quoting this statistic as a way to argue that the kids getting into UVA are not that bright. Ninety-four percent of them are in the top ten percent of their graduating class - if they aren't the state's best and brightest, I don't know who is.

In my own personal experience of having 3 DCs from NOVA in top private and top public HSs apply to colleges over the past 4 years, I can unequivocally state that the students I know who were admitted to UVA were exactly the best and brighest. These same students were admitted to all of the Ivies, Duke, Stanford, MIT, top 10 SLACs, etc. Some chose UVA, some chose one of these other schools for a variety of reasons, including financial. If you think that is fairly average you're nuts.

Yes, they may very well be the state's best and brightest but that isn't saying much. You understand the difference between having to fish in the small VA applicant pool vs. the broader applicant pool?

Yes, duh, I am an Ivy graduate myself, and am not arguing that in-state admission to UVA in the same as admission to HYP, etc. But you are an a$$ if you think that being one of Virginia's best and brightest isn't saying much, especially considering the incredibly intelligent and educated population of nova and the intense competition and stress those HS students are under to get into UVA.

Lots of cliched elitism in that post, but the essential point is correct.

Agree, and I'm an Ivy law grad. Until you've gone thru the process of trying to get your child (especially if white and from NOVA or FCPS) into an elite school you simply cannot judge the process. It's like planning D-Day for three years. Unless you are giving $1.5M to your Ivy school, legacy means nothing for white students from NOVA. It's a lottery and thank heavens DC won a few slots in that lottery and is thrilled (really! loves it! perfect fit! Better than dream school Ivy by any estimation) to be at UVA as are we, in-state parents, especially since DC is now talking law or grad school and we have two others in the queue for college.

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UVA is consistently rated as the most or top five most beautiful campuses in the U.S. https://easterndaily.com/most-beautiful-college-campuses/