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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm not sure where your OOS numbers are coming from, but from UVA's website:

68% Virginian 
32% Non-Virginian

Estimated Tuition

$11,892
2016-17 1st?Year Students, In?State, College of Arts & Sciences

$40,506
2016-17 1st?Year Students, Out?of?State, College of Arts & Sciences
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The problem with state schools is that the in-state students are going to [b]be fairly average[/b].  Even a good school like[b] UVA is accepting over 40% of in-state applicants.....not exactly the best and brightest.[/quote][/b]

I get so tired of people quoting this statistic as a way to argue that the kids getting into UVA are not that bright. Ninety-four percent of them are in the top ten percent of their graduating class - if they aren't the state's best and brightest, I don't know who is.

In my own personal experience of having 3 DCs from NOVA in top private and top public HSs apply to colleges over the past 4 years, I can unequivocally state that the students I know who were admitted to UVA were exactly the best and brighest.  These same students were admitted to all of the Ivies, Duke, Stanford, MIT, top 10 SLACs, etc.  Some chose UVA, some chose one of these other schools for a variety of reasons, including financial.  If you think that is fairly average you're nuts.[/quote]

Yes, they may very well be [b]the state's best and brightest but that isn't saying much[/b]. You understand the difference between having to fish in the small VA applicant pool vs. the broader applicant pool? [/quote]

Yes, duh, I am an Ivy graduate myself, and am not arguing that in-state admission to UVA in the same as admission to HYP, etc.   But you are an a$$ if you think that being one of Virginia's best and brightest isn't saying much, especially considering the incredibly intelligent and educated population of nova and the intense competition and stress those HS students are under to get into UVA.[/quote]

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