We visited UVA this weekend...

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure where your OOS numbers are coming from, but from UVA's website:

68% Virginian
32% Non-Virginian


Estimated Tuition

$11,892
2016-17 1st?Year Students, In?State, College of Arts & Sciences

$40,506
2016-17 1st?Year Students, Out?of?State, College of Arts & Sciences

The problem with state schools is that the in-state students are going to be fairly average. Even a good school like UVA is accepting over 40% of in-state applicants.....not exactly the best and brightest.

I get so tired of people quoting this statistic as a way to argue that the kids getting into UVA are not that bright. Ninety-four percent of them are in the top ten percent of their graduating class - if they aren't the state's best and brightest, I don't know who is.

In my own personal experience of having 3 DCs from NOVA in top private and top public HSs apply to colleges over the past 4 years, I can unequivocally state that the students I know who were admitted to UVA were exactly the best and brighest. These same students were admitted to all of the Ivies, Duke, Stanford, MIT, top 10 SLACs, etc. Some chose UVA, some chose one of these other schools for a variety of reasons, including financial. If you think that is fairly average you're nuts.

How can you compare the selectivity of the ivies which for the most part have acceptance rates of under 10% with UVA's in-state acceptance rate of 40%? That means UVA takes four times as many applicants from VA.....how can that not impact the quality of the student body? It's one thing to be defensive but it's entirely another to be ignorant of the facts.

Jealous?

Of what......UVA? You're funny.

[Anonymous]

Thank you PP for posting that link to the UVA magazine. Those geographical statistics were enlightening and frightening at the same time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure where your OOS numbers are coming from, but from UVA's website:

68% Virginian
32% Non-Virginian


Estimated Tuition

$11,892
2016-17 1st?Year Students, In?State, College of Arts & Sciences

$40,506
2016-17 1st?Year Students, Out?of?State, College of Arts & Sciences

The problem with state schools is that the in-state students are going to be fairly average. Even a good school like UVA is accepting over 40% of in-state applicants.....not exactly the best and brightest.

I get so tired of people quoting this statistic as a way to argue that the kids getting into UVA are not that bright. Ninety-four percent of them are in the top ten percent of their graduating class - if they aren't the state's best and brightest, I don't know who is.

In my own personal experience of having 3 DCs from NOVA in top private and top public HSs apply to colleges over the past 4 years, I can unequivocally state that the students I know who were admitted to UVA were exactly the best and brighest. These same students were admitted to all of the Ivies, Duke, Stanford, MIT, top 10 SLACs, etc. Some chose UVA, some chose one of these other schools for a variety of reasons, including financial. If you think that is fairly average you're nuts.

How can you compare the selectivity of the ivies which for the most part have acceptance rates of under 10% with UVA's in-state acceptance rate of 40%? That means UVA takes four times as many applicants from VA.....how can that not impact the quality of the student body? It's one thing to be defensive but it's entirely another to be ignorant of the facts.

Jealous?

+1. Note the date this thread was started. Every year right after RDs come out these threads bashing on schools that students didn't get into appear. "I was driving by (insert name of school) last week (WTF???) and it didn't look so hot". Sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I kind of hate that perky dean and her dog. Ugggghhh

Dog be there to be like ... hey, reject, buck up, you'll really like Virginia Tech. And dog be like, hey, reject, even though your UMC ArlinMommy went to UVA however many years ago and is mad as heck that her mediocre son didn't get in ... hey look at the dog, it's all good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure where your OOS numbers are coming from, but from UVA's website:

68% Virginian
32% Non-Virginian


Estimated Tuition

$11,892
2016-17 1st?Year Students, In?State, College of Arts & Sciences

$40,506
2016-17 1st?Year Students, Out?of?State, College of Arts & Sciences

The problem with state schools is that the in-state students are going to be fairly average. Even a good school like UVA is accepting over 40% of in-state applicants.....not exactly the best and brightest.

I get so tired of people quoting this statistic as a way to argue that the kids getting into UVA are not that bright. Ninety-four percent of them are in the top ten percent of their graduating class - if they aren't the state's best and brightest, I don't know who is.

In my own personal experience of having 3 DCs from NOVA in top private and top public HSs apply to colleges over the past 4 years, I can unequivocally state that the students I know who were admitted to UVA were exactly the best and brighest. These same students were admitted to all of the Ivies, Duke, Stanford, MIT, top 10 SLACs, etc. Some chose UVA, some chose one of these other schools for a variety of reasons, including financial. If you think that is fairly average you're nuts.

Yes, the ~10 students from my kid's school who got into Ivies (or equivalent) also got into UVA. An additional 30-40 kids who couldn't sniff the Ivies also got into UVA. Those are the kids that will be attending.

If they could sniff the Ivies, they'd find our shit still smells the same.

Seriously, the applicants to UVA are a self-selected group to begin with, and the kids who get in are very bright. Most of them couldn't get into multiple Ivies, but some could, and there is nothing so unique about the Ivies in any event to warrant the level of condescension in your post.

- double Ivy grad

Self-selected? From my DD's HS, 33% of the class applies to UVA every year. 40% of those get accepted. Some are very bright. Most are just normal kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure where your OOS numbers are coming from, but from UVA's website:

68% Virginian
32% Non-Virginian


Estimated Tuition

$11,892
2016-17 1st?Year Students, In?State, College of Arts & Sciences

$40,506
2016-17 1st?Year Students, Out?of?State, College of Arts & Sciences

The problem with state schools is that the in-state students are going to be fairly average. Even a good school like UVA is accepting over 40% of in-state applicants.....not exactly the best and brightest.

I get so tired of people quoting this statistic as a way to argue that the kids getting into UVA are not that bright. Ninety-four percent of them are in the top ten percent of their graduating class - if they aren't the state's best and brightest, I don't know who is.

In my own personal experience of having 3 DCs from NOVA in top private and top public HSs apply to colleges over the past 4 years, I can unequivocally state that the students I know who were admitted to UVA were exactly the best and brighest. These same students were admitted to all of the Ivies, Duke, Stanford, MIT, top 10 SLACs, etc. Some chose UVA, some chose one of these other schools for a variety of reasons, including financial. If you think that is fairly average you're nuts.

How can you compare the selectivity of the ivies which for the most part have acceptance rates of under 10% with UVA's in-state acceptance rate of 40%? That means UVA takes four times as many applicants from VA.....how can that not impact the quality of the student body? It's one thing to be defensive but it's entirely another to be ignorant of the facts.

Jealous?

+1. Note the date this thread was started. Every year right after RDs come out these threads bashing on schools that students didn't get into appear. "I was driving by (insert name of school) last week (WTF???) and it didn't look so hot". Sad.

Well I am the OP and my kids haven't even gone into Junior year yet, so you're completely wrong. The thread was started out of the genuine shock and horror of seeing UVA and its frat houses in its natural, mire-like state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure where your OOS numbers are coming from, but from UVA's website:

68% Virginian
32% Non-Virginian


Estimated Tuition

$11,892
2016-17 1st?Year Students, In?State, College of Arts & Sciences

$40,506
2016-17 1st?Year Students, Out?of?State, College of Arts & Sciences

The problem with state schools is that the in-state students are going to be fairly average. Even a good school like UVA is accepting over 40% of in-state applicants.....not exactly the best and brightest.

I get so tired of people quoting this statistic as a way to argue that the kids getting into UVA are not that bright. Ninety-four percent of them are in the top ten percent of their graduating class - if they aren't the state's best and brightest, I don't know who is.

In my own personal experience of having 3 DCs from NOVA in top private and top public HSs apply to colleges over the past 4 years, I can unequivocally state that the students I know who were admitted to UVA were exactly the best and brighest. These same students were admitted to all of the Ivies, Duke, Stanford, MIT, top 10 SLACs, etc. Some chose UVA, some chose one of these other schools for a variety of reasons, including financial. If you think that is fairly average you're nuts.

How can you compare the selectivity of the ivies which for the most part have acceptance rates of under 10% with UVA's in-state acceptance rate of 40%? That means UVA takes four times as many applicants from VA.....how can that not impact the quality of the student body? It's one thing to be defensive but it's entirely another to be ignorant of the facts.

Jealous?

+1. Note the date this thread was started. Every year right after RDs come out these threads bashing on schools that students didn't get into appear. "I was driving by (insert name of school) last week (WTF???) and it didn't look so hot". Sad.

Well I am the OP and my kids haven't even gone into Junior year yet, so you're completely wrong. The thread was started out of the genuine shock and horror of seeing UVA and its frat houses in its natural, mire-like state.

So you just drive by a university and make a judgment based upon a row of off-campus frat houses without even stepping on campus and then you come on here to share your wisdom? Prejudiced much? If you had judged my college on its frat houses you would have stepped on the gas to get out of the barrio neighborhood. Why don't you park your car and take your children on a tour and expose them to the gorgeous Rotunda, the lawn, the law school, Poe's preserved room on the lawn? How about a history tour? Why don't you look up the stats on UVA and learn how difficult it is to get in before you bash a school? (BTW Prepscholar says the average GPA is now a 4.26). Average ACT is 31-34. Almost the entirety of the class of 2021 are in the top 10% of their class. 94.6% of the 2020 first year class is in the top 10% of its class and comes from 84 countries and all 50 states. I hope you don't drive around the neighborhood of my alma mater, New Haven. Or USC. Or Columbia. Or Drexel. Or Cornell. I think you owe an apology to the 16,000+ undergrads at UVA who worked like dogs to get there.

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Or the neighborhood of Johns Hopkins, or UChicago

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure where your OOS numbers are coming from, but from UVA's website:

68% Virginian
32% Non-Virginian


Estimated Tuition

$11,892
2016-17 1st?Year Students, In?State, College of Arts & Sciences

$40,506
2016-17 1st?Year Students, Out?of?State, College of Arts & Sciences

The problem with state schools is that the in-state students are going to be fairly average. Even a good school like UVA is accepting over 40% of in-state applicants.....not exactly the best and brightest.

I get so tired of people quoting this statistic as a way to argue that the kids getting into UVA are not that bright. Ninety-four percent of them are in the top ten percent of their graduating class - if they aren't the state's best and brightest, I don't know who is.

In my own personal experience of having 3 DCs from NOVA in top private and top public HSs apply to colleges over the past 4 years, I can unequivocally state that the students I know who were admitted to UVA were exactly the best and brighest. These same students were admitted to all of the Ivies, Duke, Stanford, MIT, top 10 SLACs, etc. Some chose UVA, some chose one of these other schools for a variety of reasons, including financial. If you think that is fairly average you're nuts.

How can you compare the selectivity of the ivies which for the most part have acceptance rates of under 10% with UVA's in-state acceptance rate of 40%? That means UVA takes four times as many applicants from VA.....how can that not impact the quality of the student body? It's one thing to be defensive but it's entirely another to be ignorant of the facts.

Jealous?

+1. Note the date this thread was started. Every year right after RDs come out these threads bashing on schools that students didn't get into appear. "I was driving by (insert name of school) last week (WTF???) and it didn't look so hot". Sad.

Well I am the OP and my kids haven't even gone into Junior year yet, so you're completely wrong. The thread was started out of the genuine shock and horror of seeing UVA and its frat houses in its natural, mire-like state.

Did you get the vapors?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think OP got into UVA. Greek row is stunningly beautiful. UVA keeps popping up as no. 1 or no. 2 for most beautiful on those never-ending ratings lists. My DD attends there and is involved in other clubs, not the greek scene, but I've driven by those buildings many times and don't know what OP is talking about.

Could you cite one of those rankings? TIA!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I kind of hate that perky dean and her dog. Ugggghhh

Dog be there to be like ... hey, reject, buck up, you'll really like Virginia Tech. And dog be like, hey, reject, even though your UMC ArlinMommy went to UVA however many years ago and is mad as heck that her mediocre son didn't get in ... hey look at the dog, it's all good.

Is this English?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think OP got into UVA. Greek row is stunningly beautiful. UVA keeps popping up as no. 1 or no. 2 for most beautiful on those never-ending ratings lists. My DD attends there and is involved in other clubs, not the greek scene, but I've driven by those buildings many times and don't know what OP is talking about.

Could you cite one of those rankings? TIA!

NP. Travel & Leisure ranked it most beautiful in VA in March.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I kind of hate that perky dean and her dog. Ugggghhh

Dog be there to be like ... hey, reject, buck up, you'll really like Virginia Tech. And dog be like, hey, reject, even though your UMC ArlinMommy went to UVA however many years ago and is mad as heck that her mediocre son didn't get in ... hey look at the dog, it's all good.

Is this English?

Ha ha ha ha. This is my favorite comment on this whole thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think OP got into UVA. Greek row is stunningly beautiful. UVA keeps popping up as no. 1 or no. 2 for most beautiful on those never-ending ratings lists. My DD attends there and is involved in other clubs, not the greek scene, but I've driven by those buildings many times and don't know what OP is talking about.

Could you cite one of those rankings? TIA!

You're correct that OP didn't "get into " UVA because OP did not apply to UVA. OP attended Oxford University in the UK. If you had bothered to read the first page of thread you'd have seen that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think OP got into UVA. Greek row is stunningly beautiful. UVA keeps popping up as no. 1 or no. 2 for most beautiful on those never-ending ratings lists. My DD attends there and is involved in other clubs, not the greek scene, but I've driven by those buildings many times and don't know what OP is talking about.

Could you cite one of those rankings? TIA!

You're correct that OP didn't "get into " UVA because OP did not apply to UVA. OP attended Oxford University in the UK. If you had bothered to read the first page of thread you'd have seen that.

You know we meant her children and no one believes the Oxford line so it wasn't worth repeating. Everyone made fun of it. I will be glad to see OP posting two years from now after she goes through application hell and understands maybe just a bit more of what the process entails and how ignorant this post is.