Ex won’t make food our daughter will eat

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Anonymous wrote:OP, of course my daughter is capable of learning to cook. But when she's at her dad's house, she's still the child and he's the parent, so I think it's reasonable for him to make meals she'll actually eat. She shouldn’t have to make all her meals for herself at her age, I certainly didn’t.

She's 16, which is old enough to help in the kitchen, but she's still a kid. Her dad tends to cook a lot of fish (which she hates), salmon, and vegetable-heavy meals. Occasionally he'll make things like chicken, rice, burgers, or pizza, which she enjoys, but his diet is generally very different from hers.

My daughter isn’t a picky eater and eats a pretty wide range of foods. Sliders with mini beef or chicken burgers on sweet Hawaiian rolls, grilled chicken or steak skewers, Pasta dishes ( chicken Alfredo with fettuccine, lasagna, chicken Parmesan over marinara pasta, baked ziti with a cheesy mozzarella topping, penne alla vodka with chicken in a pink tomato-cream sauce, and chicken bacon ranch pasta bakes, etc). Tacos and burritos with beef or chicken and toppings she can add herself, chicken quesadillas, and chicken wraps. Teriyaki chicken over white rice, ramen with sliced chicken and egg, baked mac and cheese, beef and bean chili with cornbread, chicken noodle soup with thick egg noodles, and BBQ foods like ribs or grilled chicken served with fries. Overall, she’s pretty easy to feed and is happy with a variety of proteins, pastas, rice dishes, soups.

At this point, I think I just need to actually go and make meals for her once a week, and have her eat those meals throughout the week, or try my best to convince him to change up what he eats on the days she’s there, or ask him to make her something different.

Well after reading this I’m team dad.
Some of the things you posted are easy to make. I’d tell the dad to please have tortillas /cheese/chicken etc on hand so she can make a burrito or whatever. But if he doesn’t eat carb heavy food or French fries he shouldn’t be forced to make it because that’s what she likes.

You think it’s reasonable to make fish every night when she doesn’t like fish?

My sisters husband is Asian and you bet he wants fish every night. If his daughter refused to eat it, or vegetables, he’d keep pushing it until she did. Only in America do people write off entire food groups in favor of sliders and French fries nightly.

I'm American, and my parents raised me the same way. If you don't want the salmon and vegetables that we prepared, then you can go to bed hungry. Not all Americans let their kids live off mac and cheese and beef sliders.

Agreed. White bread American here. You eat dinner or there's nothing else coming. I do have an "unlimited" shelf in my fridge that kids can help themselves to, but OP's DD wouldn't be a fan. It's in season vegetables cut up, plus carrots. There's always a bowl with apples, oranges and bananas out too. Or they're welcome to have more servings of dinner.

And yes, fish is totally normal. We eat fish twice a week. Smoked salmon is my kids #1 requested meal. While we like and enjoy pasta or French fries, they aren't made often because they're just not that healthy. And yes, my DH is an athlete and needs to eat a lot of calories. You don't have to get all the calories from carbs.

My dad (autistic) has extreme food aversions that he had since childhood. He's been working with an occupational therapist and the results have been incredible. From what I've seen, it involved trying small portions of food and creating better associations. He's gone from gagging to now eating normal food like pasta, sour cream and sushi (and this is at 65! Never too old I guess). It makes me think that picky eating can be addressed by providing small exposures for kids and making food a positive experience. I feel like too many parents try fish once with their kids and "my kid hates fish."

What made your dad decide to work on this at 65? My spouse is the same way - major food aversions, but it's more than that - he can't handle the smell of food he doesn't like in our home, like if I make eggs or eat popcorn he loses his mind. I've given up hope that things might change.

My dad wanted to. I don't think smells bothered him much, but I'm not sure.

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I definfitely didn’t make breakfast for my kids most days. I did when they were small but by middle school, they were capable of grabbing cereal, yogurt and fruit, making scrambled eggs, etc. As long as there is some food in his house, this shouldn’t be a big deal. As for dinner, I’ve always cooked one dinner. Eat it or don’t. Or eat just the parts you like. As my kids hit HS, they could heat up something from the freezer, make a simple meal or get take out. This doesn’t seem like the hill to die on considering all of them co-parenting issues that exist.

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Anonymous wrote:You sound like you have created a drama queen monster.

Mommy dearest gets up to cook breakfast every day for her 16 year old princcess, don't you know.

OPs kid is only 16, that’s still really young. My daughter is almost 18, and I cook her whatever meals she want’s daily. So does her father. I’d be extremely disappointed if he wasn’t cooking what she wanted for her.

good one.

Do all these people have only children or are they making whole individual meals for each kid?

I have an only child and I think these people are nuts.

I find this thread very sad. Teens are still children and deserved to be taken care of. My sons are 17 and 18 years old, and I do make dinner for them every night, and pack their lunches for them everyday.

And I find parents like you just as sad. I'm very glad I didn't have a parent like you. I would have found it insulting to be treated like a baby when I was practically an adult.

They don’t find it insulting to be “treated like a baby” because that’s not what’s happening. Someone who loves them wants to make sure they’re well-fed and cared for, and does it out of affection. Most people can recognize the difference between being infantilized and having a mother perform a thoughtful act of care. Making someone a meal isn't taking away their independence. They’re teenagers who live at home, I don’t see why I shouldn’t help them out.

I know you have to justify being a SAHM somehow. I'm happy for you. I provide all of the food and love my child needs without making him a total moron at 17.

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The funny thing is books for picky toddlers literally tell you not to offer alternative meals and just serve what mom and dad are eating.

But somehow when the kids are 17 we're supposed to be catering?

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Anonymous wrote:You sound like you have created a drama queen monster.

Mommy dearest gets up to cook breakfast every day for her 16 year old princcess, don't you know.

OPs kid is only 16, that’s still really young. My daughter is almost 18, and I cook her whatever meals she want’s daily. So does her father. I’d be extremely disappointed if he wasn’t cooking what she wanted for her.

good one.

Do all these people have only children or are they making whole individual meals for each kid?

I have an only child and I think these people are nuts.

I find this thread very sad. Teens are still children and deserved to be taken care of. My sons are 17 and 18 years old, and I do make dinner for them every night, and pack their lunches for them everyday.

And I find parents like you just as sad. I'm very glad I didn't have a parent like you. I would have found it insulting to be treated like a baby when I was practically an adult.

They don’t find it insulting to be “treated like a baby” because that’s not what’s happening. Someone who loves them wants to make sure they’re well-fed and cared for, and does it out of affection. Most people can recognize the difference between being infantilized and having a mother perform a thoughtful act of care. Making someone a meal isn't taking away their independence. They’re teenagers who live at home, I don’t see why I shouldn’t help them out.

You're thinking like an adult who already has the skills of self care, not like someone who is in the process of developing those skills. Being denied the chance to develop and exercise those skills is precisely infantilizing. It's possible (I hope not) that you've so successfully infantilized them that they don't realize what you're doing. Hopefully, they're just playing along with your game, but what you're emphatically NOT doing is helping them. It may feel like an act of love, but it's actually profoundly selfish.

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Anonymous wrote:You sound like you have created a drama queen monster.

Mommy dearest gets up to cook breakfast every day for her 16 year old princcess, don't you know.

OPs kid is only 16, that’s still really young. My daughter is almost 18, and I cook her whatever meals she want’s daily. So does her father. I’d be extremely disappointed if he wasn’t cooking what she wanted for her.

good one.

Do all these people have only children or are they making whole individual meals for each kid?

I have an only child and I think these people are nuts.

I find this thread very sad. Teens are still children and deserved to be taken care of. My sons are 17 and 18 years old, and I do make dinner for them every night, and pack their lunches for them everyday.

And I find parents like you just as sad. I'm very glad I didn't have a parent like you. I would have found it insulting to be treated like a baby when I was practically an adult.

They don’t find it insulting to be “treated like a baby” because that’s not what’s happening. Someone who loves them wants to make sure they’re well-fed and cared for, and does it out of affection. Most people can recognize the difference between being infantilized and having a mother perform a thoughtful act of care. Making someone a meal isn't taking away their independence. They’re teenagers who live at home, I don’t see why I shouldn’t help them out.

But making every meal for them is.

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Anonymous wrote:You sound like you have created a drama queen monster.

Mommy dearest gets up to cook breakfast every day for her 16 year old princcess, don't you know.

OPs kid is only 16, that’s still really young. My daughter is almost 18, and I cook her whatever meals she want’s daily. So does her father. I’d be extremely disappointed if he wasn’t cooking what she wanted for her.

good one.

Do all these people have only children or are they making whole individual meals for each kid?

I have an only child and I think these people are nuts.

I find this thread very sad. Teens are still children and deserved to be taken care of. My sons are 17 and 18 years old, and I do make dinner for them every night, and pack their lunches for them everyday.

And I find parents like you just as sad. I'm very glad I didn't have a parent like you. I would have found it insulting to be treated like a baby when I was practically an adult.

They don’t find it insulting to be “treated like a baby” because that’s not what’s happening. Someone who loves them wants to make sure they’re well-fed and cared for, and does it out of affection. Most people can recognize the difference between being infantilized and having a mother perform a thoughtful act of care. Making someone a meal isn't taking away their independence. They’re teenagers who live at home, I don’t see why I shouldn’t help them out.

You're thinking like an adult who already has the skills of self care, not like someone who is in the process of developing those skills. Being denied the chance to develop and exercise those skills is precisely infantilizing. It's possible (I hope not) that you've so successfully infantilized them that they don't realize what you're doing. Hopefully, they're just playing along with your game, but what you're emphatically NOT doing is helping them. It may feel like an act of love, but it's actually profoundly selfish.

I'm going to add that I'm sure this is hard to hear, but you have a chance to hear it and become a better parent. If you choose not to do that, it's probably because you love your vision of yourself as a "helper" more than you love your kids. A lot of moms are like that, but they don't have to be.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, my daughter can make herself a sandwich or pour a bowl of cereal, but that's not what I'd consider a proper meal. She’s a kid so she doesn’t know how to make full meals. He's the parent and should be taking responsibility for feeding her. When she's with me, I make actual breakfasts—eggs, pancakes, waffles, oatmeal, bacon, etc.—not just tell her to fend for herself. My daughter likes hot meals, so I can’t send pre-made meals.

This kind of parenting is the actual problem. I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with making a hot breakfast some mornings but you have created the expectation that you’re running a restaurant and she is not capable. Real life is not like this. A 16 yo is absolutely capable of making all of these things for herself. My son knew how to prepare that entire menu in middle school. He and my other kids were able to make a healthy entree with a veggie by HS. I’m actually a SAHP and I often cook but I felt it was an essential life skill.

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Anonymous wrote:You sound like you have created a drama queen monster.

Mommy dearest gets up to cook breakfast every day for her 16 year old princcess, don't you know.

OPs kid is only 16, that’s still really young. My daughter is almost 18, and I cook her whatever meals she want’s daily. So does her father. I’d be extremely disappointed if he wasn’t cooking what she wanted for her.

good one.

Do all these people have only children or are they making whole individual meals for each kid?

I have an only child and I think these people are nuts.

I find this thread very sad. Teens are still children and deserved to be taken care of. My sons are 17 and 18 years old, and I do make dinner for them every night, and pack their lunches for them everyday.

And I find parents like you just as sad. I'm very glad I didn't have a parent like you. I would have found it insulting to be treated like a baby when I was practically an adult.

They don’t find it insulting to be “treated like a baby” because that’s not what’s happening. Someone who loves them wants to make sure they’re well-fed and cared for, and does it out of affection. Most people can recognize the difference between being infantilized and having a mother perform a thoughtful act of care. Making someone a meal isn't taking away their independence. They’re teenagers who live at home, I don’t see why I shouldn’t help them out.

You're thinking like an adult who already has the skills of self care, not like someone who is in the process of developing those skills. Being denied the chance to develop and exercise those skills is precisely infantilizing. It's possible (I hope not) that you've so successfully infantilized them that they don't realize what you're doing. Hopefully, they're just playing along with your game, but what you're emphatically NOT doing is helping them. It may feel like an act of love, but it's actually profoundly selfish.

It’s not that big of a deal. They’re learning how to cook and just prefer that I make their meals. I don’t really see the issue.

My parents didn’t teach me to cook. I figured it out on my own right before I had kids. Before that, I didn’t see much need to learn and mostly lived off crackers, sandwiches, fries, and pizza, because I didn’t like eating a lot. It all worked out fine.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, of course my daughter is capable of learning to cook. But when she's at her dad's house, she's still the child and he's the parent, so I think it's reasonable for him to make meals she'll actually eat. She shouldn’t have to make all her meals for herself at her age, I certainly didn’t.

She's 16, which is old enough to help in the kitchen, but she's still a kid. Her dad tends to cook a lot of fish (which she hates), salmon, and vegetable-heavy meals. Occasionally he'll make things like chicken, rice, burgers, or pizza, which she enjoys, but his diet is generally very different from hers.

My daughter isn’t a picky eater and eats a pretty wide range of foods. Sliders with mini beef or chicken burgers on sweet Hawaiian rolls, grilled chicken or steak skewers, Pasta dishes ( chicken Alfredo with fettuccine, lasagna, chicken Parmesan over marinara pasta, baked ziti with a cheesy mozzarella topping, penne alla vodka with chicken in a pink tomato-cream sauce, and chicken bacon ranch pasta bakes, etc). Tacos and burritos with beef or chicken and toppings she can add herself, chicken quesadillas, and chicken wraps. Teriyaki chicken over white rice, ramen with sliced chicken and egg, baked mac and cheese, beef and bean chili with cornbread, chicken noodle soup with thick egg noodles, and BBQ foods like ribs or grilled chicken served with fries. Overall, she’s pretty easy to feed and is happy with a variety of proteins, pastas, rice dishes, soups.

At this point, I think I just need to actually go and make meals for her once a week, and have her eat those meals throughout the week, or try my best to convince him to change up what he eats on the days she’s there, or ask him to make her something different.

Well after reading this I’m team dad.
Some of the things you posted are easy to make. I’d tell the dad to please have tortillas /cheese/chicken etc on hand so she can make a burrito or whatever. But if he doesn’t eat carb heavy food or French fries he shouldn’t be forced to make it because that’s what she likes.

You think it’s reasonable to make fish every night when she doesn’t like fish?

My sisters husband is Asian and you bet he wants fish every night. If his daughter refused to eat it, or vegetables, he’d keep pushing it until she did. Only in America do people write off entire food groups in favor of sliders and French fries nightly.

Ok, but this girlis American, so you bet she wants American food every night.

Fish isnt American food?
It’s not reasonable to say you don’t like ANY fish or you don’t like ANY vegetables. Members of my family have certain things they don’t like (mushrooms, coconut milk, sharp cheese) that are avoidable but not a whole food group that is verboten.

If you go to the grocery store, you won't see many Americans getting fish.

If you go to an ethnic store, like HMart, you will see all different kinds of people buying fish, but not white people.

I *love* fish, but I'm Asian American. I grew up in CA, and we ate fish a lot (when it was cheaper; so expensive now). That's all I ate when we were in Iceland (they mostly seem to have lamb or fish).

Americans seem to eat salmon, but not much else unless it's fried or in tacos.

I'm a white American and this isn't remotely true. We eat tons of fish.

But most white Americans don't. So, it is very true. You eating a ton of fish doesn't negate what I stated.

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Anonymous wrote:You sound like you have created a drama queen monster.

Mommy dearest gets up to cook breakfast every day for her 16 year old princcess, don't you know.

OPs kid is only 16, that’s still really young. My daughter is almost 18, and I cook her whatever meals she want’s daily. So does her father. I’d be extremely disappointed if he wasn’t cooking what she wanted for her.

good one.

Do all these people have only children or are they making whole individual meals for each kid?

I have an only child and I think these people are nuts.

I find this thread very sad. Teens are still children and deserved to be taken care of. My sons are 17 and 18 years old, and I do make dinner for them every night, and pack their lunches for them everyday.

And I find parents like you just as sad. I'm very glad I didn't have a parent like you. I would have found it insulting to be treated like a baby when I was practically an adult.

They don’t find it insulting to be “treated like a baby” because that’s not what’s happening. Someone who loves them wants to make sure they’re well-fed and cared for, and does it out of affection. Most people can recognize the difference between being infantilized and having a mother perform a thoughtful act of care. Making someone a meal isn't taking away their independence. They’re teenagers who live at home, I don’t see why I shouldn’t help them out.

You're thinking like an adult who already has the skills of self care, not like someone who is in the process of developing those skills. Being denied the chance to develop and exercise those skills is precisely infantilizing. It's possible (I hope not) that you've so successfully infantilized them that they don't realize what you're doing. Hopefully, they're just playing along with your game, but what you're emphatically NOT doing is helping them. It may feel like an act of love, but it's actually profoundly selfish.

It’s not that big of a deal. They’re learning how to cook and just prefer that I make their meals. I don’t really see the issue.

My parents didn’t teach me to cook. I figured it out on my own right before I had kids. Before that, I didn’t see much need to learn and mostly lived off crackers, sandwiches, fries, and pizza, because I didn’t like eating a lot. It all worked out fine.

So, I guess OP will have to expect her kid to mostly live off crackers, sandwiches, fries, and pizza when her DD is off on her own.

I don't want my kids to only eat those things when they are off on their own, so we taught them how to cook before they left home.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, of course my daughter is capable of learning to cook. But when she's at her dad's house, she's still the child and he's the parent, so I think it's reasonable for him to make meals she'll actually eat. She shouldn’t have to make all her meals for herself at her age, I certainly didn’t.

She's 16, which is old enough to help in the kitchen, but she's still a kid. Her dad tends to cook a lot of fish (which she hates), salmon, and vegetable-heavy meals. Occasionally he'll make things like chicken, rice, burgers, or pizza, which she enjoys, but his diet is generally very different from hers.

My daughter isn’t a picky eater and eats a pretty wide range of foods. Sliders with mini beef or chicken burgers on sweet Hawaiian rolls, grilled chicken or steak skewers, Pasta dishes ( chicken Alfredo with fettuccine, lasagna, chicken Parmesan over marinara pasta, baked ziti with a cheesy mozzarella topping, penne alla vodka with chicken in a pink tomato-cream sauce, and chicken bacon ranch pasta bakes, etc). Tacos and burritos with beef or chicken and toppings she can add herself, chicken quesadillas, and chicken wraps. Teriyaki chicken over white rice, ramen with sliced chicken and egg, baked mac and cheese, beef and bean chili with cornbread, chicken noodle soup with thick egg noodles, and BBQ foods like ribs or grilled chicken served with fries. Overall, she’s pretty easy to feed and is happy with a variety of proteins, pastas, rice dishes, soups.

At this point, I think I just need to actually go and make meals for her once a week, and have her eat those meals throughout the week, or try my best to convince him to change up what he eats on the days she’s there, or ask him to make her something different.

Well after reading this I’m team dad.
Some of the things you posted are easy to make. I’d tell the dad to please have tortillas /cheese/chicken etc on hand so she can make a burrito or whatever. But if he doesn’t eat carb heavy food or French fries he shouldn’t be forced to make it because that’s what she likes.

You think it’s reasonable to make fish every night when she doesn’t like fish?

My sisters husband is Asian and you bet he wants fish every night. If his daughter refused to eat it, or vegetables, he’d keep pushing it until she did. Only in America do people write off entire food groups in favor of sliders and French fries nightly.

Ok, but this girlis American, so you bet she wants American food every night.

Fish isnt American food?
It’s not reasonable to say you don’t like ANY fish or you don’t like ANY vegetables. Members of my family have certain things they don’t like (mushrooms, coconut milk, sharp cheese) that are avoidable but not a whole food group that is verboten.

If you go to the grocery store, you won't see many Americans getting fish.

If you go to an ethnic store, like HMart, you will see all different kinds of people buying fish, but not white people.

I *love* fish, but I'm Asian American. I grew up in CA, and we ate fish a lot (when it was cheaper; so expensive now). That's all I ate when we were in Iceland (they mostly seem to have lamb or fish).

Americans seem to eat salmon, but not much else unless it's fried or in tacos.

I'm a white American and this isn't remotely true. We eat tons of fish.

But most white Americans don't. So, it is very true. You eating a ton of fish doesn't negate what I stated.

So why does that mean it's unreasonable for her Dad to eat fish?

Also, have you been to a sushi restaurant recently? It's a ton of white people.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, of course my daughter is capable of learning to cook. But when she's at her dad's house, she's still the child and he's the parent, so I think it's reasonable for him to make meals she'll actually eat. She shouldn’t have to make all her meals for herself at her age, I certainly didn’t.

She's 16, which is old enough to help in the kitchen, but she's still a kid. Her dad tends to cook a lot of fish (which she hates), salmon, and vegetable-heavy meals. Occasionally he'll make things like chicken, rice, burgers, or pizza, which she enjoys, but his diet is generally very different from hers.

My daughter isn’t a picky eater and eats a pretty wide range of foods. Sliders with mini beef or chicken burgers on sweet Hawaiian rolls, grilled chicken or steak skewers, Pasta dishes ( chicken Alfredo with fettuccine, lasagna, chicken Parmesan over marinara pasta, baked ziti with a cheesy mozzarella topping, penne alla vodka with chicken in a pink tomato-cream sauce, and chicken bacon ranch pasta bakes, etc). Tacos and burritos with beef or chicken and toppings she can add herself, chicken quesadillas, and chicken wraps. Teriyaki chicken over white rice, ramen with sliced chicken and egg, baked mac and cheese, beef and bean chili with cornbread, chicken noodle soup with thick egg noodles, and BBQ foods like ribs or grilled chicken served with fries. Overall, she’s pretty easy to feed and is happy with a variety of proteins, pastas, rice dishes, soups.

At this point, I think I just need to actually go and make meals for her once a week, and have her eat those meals throughout the week, or try my best to convince him to change up what he eats on the days she’s there, or ask him to make her something different.

Well after reading this I’m team dad.
Some of the things you posted are easy to make. I’d tell the dad to please have tortillas /cheese/chicken etc on hand so she can make a burrito or whatever. But if he doesn’t eat carb heavy food or French fries he shouldn’t be forced to make it because that’s what she likes.

You think it’s reasonable to make fish every night when she doesn’t like fish?

My sisters husband is Asian and you bet he wants fish every night. If his daughter refused to eat it, or vegetables, he’d keep pushing it until she did. Only in America do people write off entire food groups in favor of sliders and French fries nightly.

Ok, but this girlis American, so you bet she wants American food every night.

Fish isnt American food?
It’s not reasonable to say you don’t like ANY fish or you don’t like ANY vegetables. Members of my family have certain things they don’t like (mushrooms, coconut milk, sharp cheese) that are avoidable but not a whole food group that is verboten.

If you go to the grocery store, you won't see many Americans getting fish.

If you go to an ethnic store, like HMart, you will see all different kinds of people buying fish, but not white people.

I *love* fish, but I'm Asian American. I grew up in CA, and we ate fish a lot (when it was cheaper; so expensive now). That's all I ate when we were in Iceland (they mostly seem to have lamb or fish).

Americans seem to eat salmon, but not much else unless it's fried or in tacos.

This is regional and it's going to depend on where you're from. I'm from Miami and ate lots of seafood. People who are from inland states will eat less fish.

the most seafood Americans eat is shrimp, and canned tuna.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, of course my daughter is capable of learning to cook. But when she's at her dad's house, she's still the child and he's the parent, so I think it's reasonable for him to make meals she'll actually eat. She shouldn’t have to make all her meals for herself at her age, I certainly didn’t.

She's 16, which is old enough to help in the kitchen, but she's still a kid. Her dad tends to cook a lot of fish (which she hates), salmon, and vegetable-heavy meals. Occasionally he'll make things like chicken, rice, burgers, or pizza, which she enjoys, but his diet is generally very different from hers.

My daughter isn’t a picky eater and eats a pretty wide range of foods. Sliders with mini beef or chicken burgers on sweet Hawaiian rolls, grilled chicken or steak skewers, Pasta dishes ( chicken Alfredo with fettuccine, lasagna, chicken Parmesan over marinara pasta, baked ziti with a cheesy mozzarella topping, penne alla vodka with chicken in a pink tomato-cream sauce, and chicken bacon ranch pasta bakes, etc). Tacos and burritos with beef or chicken and toppings she can add herself, chicken quesadillas, and chicken wraps. Teriyaki chicken over white rice, ramen with sliced chicken and egg, baked mac and cheese, beef and bean chili with cornbread, chicken noodle soup with thick egg noodles, and BBQ foods like ribs or grilled chicken served with fries. Overall, she’s pretty easy to feed and is happy with a variety of proteins, pastas, rice dishes, soups.

At this point, I think I just need to actually go and make meals for her once a week, and have her eat those meals throughout the week, or try my best to convince him to change up what he eats on the days she’s there, or ask him to make her something different.

Well after reading this I’m team dad.
Some of the things you posted are easy to make. I’d tell the dad to please have tortillas /cheese/chicken etc on hand so she can make a burrito or whatever. But if he doesn’t eat carb heavy food or French fries he shouldn’t be forced to make it because that’s what she likes.

You think it’s reasonable to make fish every night when she doesn’t like fish?

My sisters husband is Asian and you bet he wants fish every night. If his daughter refused to eat it, or vegetables, he’d keep pushing it until she did. Only in America do people write off entire food groups in favor of sliders and French fries nightly.

Ok, but this girlis American, so you bet she wants American food every night.

Fish isnt American food?
It’s not reasonable to say you don’t like ANY fish or you don’t like ANY vegetables. Members of my family have certain things they don’t like (mushrooms, coconut milk, sharp cheese) that are avoidable but not a whole food group that is verboten.

If you go to the grocery store, you won't see many Americans getting fish.

If you go to an ethnic store, like HMart, you will see all different kinds of people buying fish, but not white people.

I *love* fish, but I'm Asian American. I grew up in CA, and we ate fish a lot (when it was cheaper; so expensive now). That's all I ate when we were in Iceland (they mostly seem to have lamb or fish).

Americans seem to eat salmon, but not much else unless it's fried or in tacos.

Fish is $$$$

? yet all those non white people (Africans, Hispanic, Asians) seem to be buying a lot of fish.

Also, fish is less expensive than beef, and better for you.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, of course my daughter is capable of learning to cook. But when she's at her dad's house, she's still the child and he's the parent, so I think it's reasonable for him to make meals she'll actually eat. She shouldn’t have to make all her meals for herself at her age, I certainly didn’t.

She's 16, which is old enough to help in the kitchen, but she's still a kid. Her dad tends to cook a lot of fish (which she hates), salmon, and vegetable-heavy meals. Occasionally he'll make things like chicken, rice, burgers, or pizza, which she enjoys, but his diet is generally very different from hers.

My daughter isn’t a picky eater and eats a pretty wide range of foods. Sliders with mini beef or chicken burgers on sweet Hawaiian rolls, grilled chicken or steak skewers, Pasta dishes ( chicken Alfredo with fettuccine, lasagna, chicken Parmesan over marinara pasta, baked ziti with a cheesy mozzarella topping, penne alla vodka with chicken in a pink tomato-cream sauce, and chicken bacon ranch pasta bakes, etc). Tacos and burritos with beef or chicken and toppings she can add herself, chicken quesadillas, and chicken wraps. Teriyaki chicken over white rice, ramen with sliced chicken and egg, baked mac and cheese, beef and bean chili with cornbread, chicken noodle soup with thick egg noodles, and BBQ foods like ribs or grilled chicken served with fries. Overall, she’s pretty easy to feed and is happy with a variety of proteins, pastas, rice dishes, soups.

At this point, I think I just need to actually go and make meals for her once a week, and have her eat those meals throughout the week, or try my best to convince him to change up what he eats on the days she’s there, or ask him to make her something different.

Well after reading this I’m team dad.
Some of the things you posted are easy to make. I’d tell the dad to please have tortillas /cheese/chicken etc on hand so she can make a burrito or whatever. But if he doesn’t eat carb heavy food or French fries he shouldn’t be forced to make it because that’s what she likes.

You think it’s reasonable to make fish every night when she doesn’t like fish?

My sisters husband is Asian and you bet he wants fish every night. If his daughter refused to eat it, or vegetables, he’d keep pushing it until she did. Only in America do people write off entire food groups in favor of sliders and French fries nightly.

Ok, but this girlis American, so you bet she wants American food every night.

Fish isnt American food?
It’s not reasonable to say you don’t like ANY fish or you don’t like ANY vegetables. Members of my family have certain things they don’t like (mushrooms, coconut milk, sharp cheese) that are avoidable but not a whole food group that is verboten.

If you go to the grocery store, you won't see many Americans getting fish.

If you go to an ethnic store, like HMart, you will see all different kinds of people buying fish, but not white people.

I *love* fish, but I'm Asian American. I grew up in CA, and we ate fish a lot (when it was cheaper; so expensive now). That's all I ate when we were in Iceland (they mostly seem to have lamb or fish).

Americans seem to eat salmon, but not much else unless it's fried or in tacos.

This is regional and it's going to depend on where you're from. I'm from Miami and ate lots of seafood. People who are from inland states will eat less fish.

the most seafood Americans eat is shrimp, and canned tuna.

You know you can look this stuff up, right? This doesn't show Americans eating mostly canned seafood.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/charts-of-note/chart-detail?chartId=108936