DOJ says Yale medical school discriminated against Asian, White applicants

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A pretty broad majority of doctors are white and Asian, along with medical students. At some point you have to question the intentions of someone who seems to really want to see 0% of medical students be black.


I think the intentions are highly qualified doctors. Hard to fault that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Civil Rights Act of 1964 bans racial discrimination.

If people want positive discrimination or racial diversity, they have to either do it in a race-blind way (like geography, or discriminating by partisan affiliation, like Republican legistatures do) or pass an amendment to the Civil Rights Act.

But DOJ need to have evidence. If they make an argument based on disparate impact, that opens floodgates.

Grades and GPA beyond some basic qualifying threshold aren't relevant to graduating med school or being a doctor. There's no need to admit only the highest MCAT scorers.

If colleges can admit white kids for playing lax and rowing crew, they can admit black kids for living in Baltimore



Nobody gets into medical school for playing laX or rowing crew.

There may be a compelling government interest in having more black doctors because of the rate of patient compliance with black primary care physicians versus non-black primary care physicians. But that's not an argument that anyone has made AFAIK.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The Justice Department concluded after a year-long investigation that Yale School of Medicine discriminated in admissions by favoring Black and Hispanic applicants over White and Asian applicants, saying Yale continued using race or race-linked factors after the Supreme Court’s 2023 affirmative-action ruling. DOJ cited admissions data and internal documents, including a claim that similarly qualified Black applicants had much higher interview odds than Asian applicants. Yale had not commented in the Washington Post report, and the case fits a broader Trump administration push against race-conscious admissions and DEI practices in higher education.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2026/05/14/doj-says-yale-medical-school-discriminated-against-asian-white-applicants/?utm_source=reddit.com


So did the U California system.

Average Mcat scores for AA and hispanic students admitted to the UC medical schools were in the mid 60% range to lower 70% range, while minimum scores requires for white and asian students were around 86% with an average around 92%. (This article list the average for AA/hispanic, but the minimum for white and asian applicants. There are other articles that include that 92% average score for whites and asians )

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/government/politics-elections/2026/05/06/ucla-med-school-accused-racial-discrimination
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A pretty broad majority of doctors are white and Asian, along with medical students. At some point you have to question the intentions of someone who seems to really want to see 0% of medical students be black.


I think the intentions are highly qualified doctors. Hard to fault that.


If I knew the current doj had anything at all to do with the selection of any individual to medical school, I would not be comfortable using that doc's services. But you go right ahead.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Civil Rights Act of 1964 bans racial discrimination.

If people want positive discrimination or racial diversity, they have to either do it in a race-blind way (like geography, or discriminating by partisan affiliation, like Republican legistatures do) or pass an amendment to the Civil Rights Act.

But DOJ need to have evidence. If they make an argument based on disparate impact, that opens floodgates.

Grades and GPA beyond some basic qualifying threshold aren't relevant to graduating med school or being a doctor. There's no need to admit only the highest MCAT scorers.

If colleges can admit white kids for playing lax and rowing crew, they can admit black kids for living in Baltimore


Why not get rid of it? Republicans have gutted VRA, might as well take out the CRA. Everyone can discriminate who they want to.


Because the voting rights act enforces discrimination to reverse the impact of 100 years of Jim Crow. Now 60 years later, the preference is causing anti-racist gerrymandering.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A pretty broad majority of doctors are white and Asian, along with medical students. At some point you have to question the intentions of someone who seems to really want to see 0% of medical students be black.


I think the intentions are highly qualified doctors. Hard to fault that.


If I knew the current doj had anything at all to do with the selection of any individual to medical school, I would not be comfortable using that doc's services. But you go right ahead.


No problem. You can just sit home with your homeopathic remedies and traditional medicine. Might free up the waiting rooms a bit. But we know you're all talk and will be tripping all over yourself the next time you have a headache to get a prescription.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This thread shows the liberals are the true racists.


.+1. DOJ found that UVA Medical School was doing the same. Google it.


This DOJ is going to find that every medical school was doing it. They're not going to stop until the demographic they're targeting stops applying completely.


The reason they are going to find that every medical school was doing it is probably because every medical school was doing it.

What do you think the average MCAT score is for black medical students compared to white medical students?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A pretty broad majority of doctors are white and Asian, along with medical students. At some point you have to question the intentions of someone who seems to really want to see 0% of medical students be black.


I think the intentions are highly qualified doctors. Hard to fault that.


If I knew the current doj had anything at all to do with the selection of any individual to medical school, I would not be comfortable using that doc's services. But you go right ahead.


No problem. You can just sit home with your homeopathic remedies and traditional medicine. Might free up the waiting rooms a bit. But we know you're all talk and will be tripping all over yourself the next time you have a headache to get a prescription.


Not from some doctor tainted by this backwards administration. I'm fully on board with the miracles of modern medicine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A pretty broad majority of doctors are white and Asian, along with medical students. At some point you have to question the intentions of someone who seems to really want to see 0% of medical students be black.


I think the intentions are highly qualified doctors. Hard to fault that.


If I knew the current doj had anything at all to do with the selection of any individual to medical school, I would not be comfortable using that doc's services. But you go right ahead.


No problem. You can just sit home with your homeopathic remedies and traditional medicine. Might free up the waiting rooms a bit. But we know you're all talk and will be tripping all over yourself the next time you have a headache to get a prescription.


Not from some doctor tainted by this backwards administration. I'm fully on board with the miracles of modern medicine.


But only as prescribed by the doctor with the right skin color.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread shows the liberals are the true racists.


.+1. DOJ found that UVA Medical School was doing the same. Google it.


This DOJ is going to find that every medical school was doing it. They're not going to stop until the demographic they're targeting stops applying completely.


The reason they are going to find that every medical school was doing it is probably because every medical school was doing it.

What do you think the average MCAT score is for black medical students compared to white medical students?


You're such a racist piece of crap. A black physician recently cared for my mom and she was an outstanding professional. I doubt you could have found better.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A pretty broad majority of doctors are white and Asian, along with medical students. At some point you have to question the intentions of someone who seems to really want to see 0% of medical students be black.


I think the intentions are highly qualified doctors. Hard to fault that.


If I knew the current doj had anything at all to do with the selection of any individual to medical school, I would not be comfortable using that doc's services. But you go right ahead.


No problem. You can just sit home with your homeopathic remedies and traditional medicine. Might free up the waiting rooms a bit. But we know you're all talk and will be tripping all over yourself the next time you have a headache to get a prescription.


Not from some doctor tainted by this backwards administration. I'm fully on board with the miracles of modern medicine.


But only as prescribed by the doctor with the right skin color.


Any skin color is the right skin color as long as they have respect for modern medicine and not RFK Jr. Garbage.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A pretty broad majority of doctors are white and Asian, along with medical students. At some point you have to question the intentions of someone who seems to really want to see 0% of medical students be black.


I think the intentions are highly qualified doctors. Hard to fault that.


If I knew the current doj had anything at all to do with the selection of any individual to medical school, I would not be comfortable using that doc's services. But you go right ahead.


No problem. You can just sit home with your homeopathic remedies and traditional medicine. Might free up the waiting rooms a bit. But we know you're all talk and will be tripping all over yourself the next time you have a headache to get a prescription.


Not from some doctor tainted by this backwards administration. I'm fully on board with the miracles of modern medicine.


But only as prescribed by the doctor with the right skin color.


Any skin color is the right skin color as long as they have respect for modern medicine and not RFK Jr. Garbage.


When you have cancer you want the expert on your cancer who is the best oncologist in your area. Spare me your sanctimonious partisan BS.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:We all know many colleges discriminate against Asians and whites. It is a liberal trend that current administration tries to revert. Not because they care about law, or fairness, but because they care about predominantly white maga base. What maga doesn't get is that with a pure merit based adminission, top schools like Yale or Harvard will be 80%+ Asian. And it is not because Asian kids are smarter but because they work harder being pushed most of the times by their families. That's the reality like it or not.


Why would maga care if a lot of doctors are Asian? Does maga have respect for doctors of any race?


You didn't get it. Maga care about their white kids not getting into colleges and about them not being able to find white doctors. They blame it on DEI but even without the DEI, their kids will not get higher chances because in a merit based process Asian will fill all the spots.


Asians consistently fail holistic admissions. It’s not racism but rather being one dimensional.


No, it's racist.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A pretty broad majority of doctors are white and Asian, along with medical students. At some point you have to question the intentions of someone who seems to really want to see 0% of medical students be black.


I think the intentions are highly qualified doctors. Hard to fault that.


As someone with a lot of experience with a lot of doctors, one of the things that makes a doctor "highly qualified" is the ability to listen to, relate to, and care about a patient. You can take an academically brilliant person, send them to Yale or Harvard or another top law school, and if they lack empathy generally or are working with a community with whom they cannot experience empathy, they will be bad at their job. Doctors like this can excel in research or in a carefully selected specialty (certain surgical specialties require minimal patient interaction, and some specialties allow you to essential select your patients for their demographics) but but them in your standard teaching hospital, and specialty that results in a broad cross section of patients (internal med, emergency med, family med, pediatrics), or any specialty that requires ongoing communication with a broad variety of patients, and they can be a total nightmare to the patient and a tax on the system. Even with good nurses and other medical pros around them.

One good reason for recruiting black and Hispanic doctors is that we have many hospitals serving primarily black and hispanic populations, and you are more likely to wind up with a doctor who has the bedside skills to do that well. Of course white and Asian doctors *can* also serve these populations well, but it requires a higher degree of empathy, which doesn't always co-exist well with the academic credentials required to actually get through med school.

So recruiting a diverse med school class serves an important public health purpose. Diversity of backgrounds in the medical profession results in better medicine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is a bummer as studies have shown repeatedly that health outcomes for black patients (especially for chronic conditions) are much better when they see black physicians. Individuals in race-matched pairings are far more likely to see their doctors and even their mortality rate decreases


Ok, then HBCUs can start med schools.
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