Single Issue Voter: Controlling The Borders

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:And the Mexicans use right wingers as their mules.

So the circle is complete.


You’re going to need a cite for that claim
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And the Mexicans use right wingers as their mules.

So the circle is complete.


You’re going to need a cite for that claim



PP is the usual psycho troll.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Regardless of my party affiliation/registration, I will vote based on one issue--strict control of our borders.

Other than right to life/abortion issue is anyone else approaching the next presidential election as a single issue voter ?

If other than right to life/abortion, what is that issue ?


I have to admit that while I don't really like illegal immigration I don't have strong feelings about it. Congress can't get its act together. Democrats have taken to using the word migrant and farther left Democrats seem to brush off the fact that the people that have entered are here illegally. Republicans are just as bad on the other end of the spectrum and love to use the issue as a wedge issue.

But overall, I don't really see the harm to the country. The people want jobs and they get jobs. If anyone was serious about stopping the flow of people we'd make it prohibitively expensive to employ an undocumented person. But the truth is that we need and want those workers. So let them come, I say.
Anonymous
But overall, I don't really see the harm to the country. The people want jobs and they get jobs. If anyone was serious about stopping the flow of people we'd make it prohibitively expensive to employ an undocumented person. But the truth is that we need and want those workers. So let them come, I say.



These people are paying the cartels to help them get to the border. Meanwhile, the "gotaways" are thousands and thousands. Drugs, human trafficking, etc.

Everyone talks about "immigration reform." I wish someone would explain how that can occur as long as thousands are flowing in daily--some are valid asylum seekers, but not most.

Would someone on here lay out what "immigration reform" looks like? The only thing i have seen is to give Dreamers citizenship. That is only a small piece of the problem.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
But overall, I don't really see the harm to the country. The people want jobs and they get jobs. If anyone was serious about stopping the flow of people we'd make it prohibitively expensive to employ an undocumented person. But the truth is that we need and want those workers. So let them come, I say.



These people are paying the cartels to help them get to the border. Meanwhile, the "gotaways" are thousands and thousands. Drugs, human trafficking, etc.

Everyone talks about "immigration reform." I wish someone would explain how that can occur as long as thousands are flowing in daily--some are valid asylum seekers, but not most.

Would someone on here lay out what "immigration reform" looks like? The only thing i have seen is to give Dreamers citizenship. That is only a small piece of the problem.


DP. Everyone who seeks asylum is permitted to stay until a judge decides their case, which takes years. If we changed that, or vastly sped up the process, we wouldn’t have as many migrants/asylees here. People would be less likely to pay cartels to get them here if they were deported a week later. People would be less likely to walk to the US from Central America if they would be deported quickly.

The political parties exploit migrants for their own purposes, and I’m tired of it. I wish they f-ing fix it, or shut up about it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Republicans have controlled the House of Representatives for 46 days and have still not filed a border security bill. BuT i ThOuGhT iT wAs A cRiSiS


I'll let you into a little secret: Republicans don't want to solve the immigration problem. It's one of their signature issues. It whips up their base every time. It would make zero sense politically to try to solve the problem. They just like tough optics and tough talk on the subject from the likes of Trump and others.

Pretty much. I don't understand how the GOP doesn't understand this at all. It's all economics people. Plain and simple. It benefits corporations, small businesses, etc. If they had wanted to address it, they would have done it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Republicans have controlled the House of Representatives for 46 days and have still not filed a border security bill. BuT i ThOuGhT iT wAs A cRiSiS


I'll let you into a little secret: Republicans don't want to solve the immigration problem. It's one of their signature issues. It whips up their base every time. It would make zero sense politically to try to solve the problem. They just like tough optics and tough talk on the subject from the likes of Trump and others.

Pretty much. I don't understand how the GOP doesn't understand this at all. It's all economics people. Plain and simple. It benefits corporations, small businesses, etc. If they had wanted to address it, they would have done it.


If they wanted to address it, they would issue work visas.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Republicans have controlled the House of Representatives for 46 days and have still not filed a border security bill. BuT i ThOuGhT iT wAs A cRiSiS


I'll let you into a little secret: Republicans don't want to solve the immigration problem. It's one of their signature issues. It whips up their base every time. It would make zero sense politically to try to solve the problem. They just like tough optics and tough talk on the subject from the likes of Trump and others.



Yep. Especially since they finally got a Supreme Court abortion win. That was their best, most powerful wedge issue for decades - with that win, they risked losing half their base. So they need something to keep their base excited- immigration is the new abortion. Make it scary!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Republicans have controlled the House of Representatives for 46 days and have still not filed a border security bill. BuT i ThOuGhT iT wAs A cRiSiS


I'll let you into a little secret: Republicans don't want to solve the immigration problem. It's one of their signature issues. It whips up their base every time. It would make zero sense politically to try to solve the problem. They just like tough optics and tough talk on the subject from the likes of Trump and others.



Yep. Especially since they finally got a Supreme Court abortion win. That was their best, most powerful wedge issue for decades - with that win, they risked losing half their base. So they need something to keep their base excited- immigration is the new abortion. Make it scary!


Illegal entry into the US is scary. And, hundreds of thousands of citizens are dying as a result of it.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
But overall, I don't really see the harm to the country. The people want jobs and they get jobs. If anyone was serious about stopping the flow of people we'd make it prohibitively expensive to employ an undocumented person. But the truth is that we need and want those workers. So let them come, I say.



These people are paying the cartels to help them get to the border. Meanwhile, the "gotaways" are thousands and thousands. Drugs, human trafficking, etc.

Everyone talks about "immigration reform." I wish someone would explain how that can occur as long as thousands are flowing in daily--some are valid asylum seekers, but not most.

Would someone on here lay out what "immigration reform" looks like? The only thing i have seen is to give Dreamers citizenship. That is only a small piece of the problem.


DP. Everyone who seeks asylum is permitted to stay until a judge decides their case, which takes years. If we changed that, or vastly sped up the process, we wouldn’t have as many migrants/asylees here. People would be less likely to pay cartels to get them here if they were deported a week later. People would be less likely to walk to the US from Central America if they would be deported quickly.

The political parties exploit migrants for their own purposes, and I’m tired of it. I wish they f-ing fix it, or shut up about it.


The bolded part is correct, and neither side will do anything particularly meaningful.
Anonymous

What’s particularly heart wrenching is all the children getting tortured and raped. What we’re allowing is an atrocity.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Republicans have controlled the House of Representatives for 46 days and have still not filed a border security bill. BuT i ThOuGhT iT wAs A cRiSiS


I'll let you into a little secret: Republicans don't want to solve the immigration problem. It's one of their signature issues. It whips up their base every time. It would make zero sense politically to try to solve the problem. They just like tough optics and tough talk on the subject from the likes of Trump and others.



Yep. Especially since they finally got a Supreme Court abortion win. That was their best, most powerful wedge issue for decades - with that win, they risked losing half their base. So they need something to keep their base excited- immigration is the new abortion. Make it scary!


Illegal entry into the US is scary. And, hundreds of thousands of citizens are dying as a result of it.



Hundreds of thousands of citizens are dying? Do you have a citation for that? Because even if you were referring to fentanyl overdoses, a lot of the fentanyl is being smuggled in right through the ports, as opposed to the border.
Anonymous

What’s the end goal of the massive influx?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
What’s the end goal of the massive influx?


Wasn’t there a story about a republican operation to encourage them to come to cause a “crisis”? Wasn’t that part of the “caravan” drama around the last attempted coup/transition?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
But overall, I don't really see the harm to the country. The people want jobs and they get jobs. If anyone was serious about stopping the flow of people we'd make it prohibitively expensive to employ an undocumented person. But the truth is that we need and want those workers. So let them come, I say.



These people are paying the cartels to help them get to the border. Meanwhile, the "gotaways" are thousands and thousands. Drugs, human trafficking, etc.

Everyone talks about "immigration reform." I wish someone would explain how that can occur as long as thousands are flowing in daily--some are valid asylum seekers, but not most.

Would someone on here lay out what "immigration reform" looks like? The only thing i have seen is to give Dreamers citizenship. That is only a small piece of the problem.


DP. Everyone who seeks asylum is permitted to stay until a judge decides their case, which takes years. If we changed that, or vastly sped up the process, we wouldn’t have as many migrants/asylees here. People would be less likely to pay cartels to get them here if they were deported a week later. People would be less likely to walk to the US from Central America if they would be deported quickly.

The political parties exploit migrants for their own purposes, and I’m tired of it. I wish they f-ing fix it, or shut up about it.


The bolded part is correct, and neither side will do anything particularly meaningful.

No, dear. One side has continued to try to address it but the GOP loves firing up their idiot base.
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