Military observations on Ukraine invasion

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Left-over (but air worthy) Mig 29s litter several EU / NATO nations.

Ukrainian pilots will be gifted these fighter/bombers.

The beauty of this plan is that the Migs can continually return to bases in the EU to refuel and re-arm, while keeping up sustained air attacks on the Russian invaders/aggressors, until they retreat or are completely destroyed.

Vlad- had enough yet?

Is this true?

No.

Should add that without AEW and CC any Ukrainian aircraft would be chewed up by the Russian’s IADS when entering the ADIZ. Any MiG-29s in NATO are the 9.12 with local mods and are needed for NATO defense. Maybe you can get a few MiGs on the black market but without the required operational support system it’s kind of pointless. Better would be Su-25s and Mi-24s but then again what do you do about the IADS?

[Anonymous]

I didn’t think I’d ever feel this way, but NATO needs to call Putins bluff and intervene directly. This monster is a cancer who will attack one country after the next. There’s a high probability that such a move won’t result in nuclear holocast. But if it did? I’m not sure it’s worth living in a world where we just surrender our lives to the most violent aggressors.

[Anonymous]

Putin is 70 years old. Male life expectancy in Russia is just over 73.

He is going to go out in flames. I just hope the US has compromised their nukes enough to reduce his damage.

EU and NATO are too little too late; imo the fate of the entire world rests on all the spending of America for defense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Meh.....they sent in a bunch of teenagers and early 20s somethings (kids) conscripts with crappy supplies and weapons to serves as fresh meat to be turned into ground beef. They were used to soften up the Ukraine. Russia's advanced weaponry and elite divisions till haven't really been deployed yet. People shouldn't get confident at all that Russia has been 'struggling'. They are just getting warmed up, so I wouldn't extract a whole lot from the first week of combat.

Why, though? Why would they send their worst troops first?

This will be a question for the ages. High on their own supply (propaganda) seems the most likely, combined with bad intel about the Ukrainian ability to mount a resistance. Or the people that knew this would be the outcome were not allowed to get that message to Putin. We've all heard that he is isolated and only seeing a few advisors. Maybe no one had the guts to tell him the truth.

Hassan Piker (Hassanabi) had Chelsea Manning on his show (you can see it on YouTube). I don't know how much you can take what she says for the truth since she's a traitor to the US but she basically said that Russia just doesn't have the war machine that we have. She claimed (exaggeration?) that we have 100,000 cruise missles just sitting around and that most of them will rust out before ever being used. Meanwhile Russia doesn't have those types of stockpiles of ammunition waiting to be fired. They're using what they've got but they don't spend a gazzillion dollars a year on weapons like we do.

Those gazillions of dollars are all sitting in the oligarchs' bank accounts. Why spend them on weapons when you can spend them on a superyacht or two?

This guy seems to have felt bad about that?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/mar/03/ukraine-born-oligarch-mikhail-watford-found-dead-at-home-in-surrey

[Anonymous]

I’m cool with fighting Russia; even if some of their nuKes hit targets. At this point; eliminating all Russians is not a bad idea

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m cool with fighting Russia; even if some of their nuKes hit targets. At this point; eliminating all Russians is not a bad idea

I live within 3 miles of both the White House and the Pentagon and frankly IDGAF if Putin launches nukes. So what if Putin hits, even if his POS garbage missiles make it to their targets, I'd be vaporized and a few minutes later he will be gone as well. I have absolutely zero problem with that. I sleep just fine at night knowing that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The playbook is Grozny - pound Ukraine into submission, even if destroys all infrastructure and the populace is decimated. Elevate a ruthless strongman Ukrainian-native mobster to be the Governor that answers only to Putin.

Look at all the Chechen forces Putin has at his disposal. They are all the kids born during or after the Chechen war; they've been thoroughly placated and brainwashed to fight on behalf of the monster who murdered all their relatives.

That's the playbook for Ukraine.

I was in grozny during the first campaign and you don’t know what you’re talking about. Compared to the Chechen war, Ukraine is a freaking club med.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The playbook is Grozny - pound Ukraine into submission, even if destroys all infrastructure and the populace is decimated. Elevate a ruthless strongman Ukrainian-native mobster to be the Governor that answers only to Putin.

Look at all the Chechen forces Putin has at his disposal. They are all the kids born during or after the Chechen war; they've been thoroughly placated and brainwashed to fight on behalf of the monster who murdered all their relatives.

That's the playbook for Ukraine.

Uhhh... Kadyrov's top general went to Ukraine and got killed. He's had several columns of his "elite" Chechen fighters already obliterated.

This might shock you, but there is a ton of prejudice against Muslims in Russia. Send in the Muslims to get slaughtered first as well if you are Putin.

It’s not Muslims , it’s specifically chechens, a culture that worships warriors instead of builders.

[Anonymous]

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Russian State Media claims that there are no conscripted soldiers fighting in Ukraine, so thats what may be paperwork is for?

Russian state media is also only saying "a few hundred" in terms of Russian casualties when they are in the thousands. They are prepping the lies, for when Dima and Yuri and all the rest don't come home from Ukraine. They will say "industrial accident" or "who knows, he was a drunk and ran off" or whatever else to cover their disaster. They do not care about their own people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The playbook is Grozny - pound Ukraine into submission, even if destroys all infrastructure and the populace is decimated. Elevate a ruthless strongman Ukrainian-native mobster to be the Governor that answers only to Putin.

Look at all the Chechen forces Putin has at his disposal. They are all the kids born during or after the Chechen war; they've been thoroughly placated and brainwashed to fight on behalf of the monster who murdered all their relatives.

That's the playbook for Ukraine.

I was in grozny during the first campaign and you don’t know what you’re talking about. Compared to the Chechen war, Ukraine is a freaking club med.

Club Med? So far, Ukraine has turned every single Chechen sent by Putin and Kadyrov into dogmeat. The Chechnya of then was a different generation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The playbook is Grozny - pound Ukraine into submission, even if destroys all infrastructure and the populace is decimated. Elevate a ruthless strongman Ukrainian-native mobster to be the Governor that answers only to Putin.

Look at all the Chechen forces Putin has at his disposal. They are all the kids born during or after the Chechen war; they've been thoroughly placated and brainwashed to fight on behalf of the monster who murdered all their relatives.

That's the playbook for Ukraine.

I was in grozny during the first campaign and you don’t know what you’re talking about. Compared to the Chechen war, Ukraine is a freaking club med.

Club Med? So far, Ukraine has turned every single Chechen sent by Putin and Kadyrov into dogmeat. The Chechnya of then was a different generation.

First, you don’t know if it was every single one of them. Second, the current generation has fighters who are ISIS graduates. And third, I was referring to civilians on the ground who had it much worse in grozny with no refugee corridor at the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m cool with fighting Russia; even if some of their nuKes hit targets. At this point; eliminating all Russians is not a bad idea

"Eliminating all Russians" is a horrible idea. We should not hold an entire country responsible for the acts of a small number of leaders.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The playbook is Grozny - pound Ukraine into submission, even if destroys all infrastructure and the populace is decimated. Elevate a ruthless strongman Ukrainian-native mobster to be the Governor that answers only to Putin.

Look at all the Chechen forces Putin has at his disposal. They are all the kids born during or after the Chechen war; they've been thoroughly placated and brainwashed to fight on behalf of the monster who murdered all their relatives.

That's the playbook for Ukraine.

I was in grozny during the first campaign and you don’t know what you’re talking about. Compared to the Chechen war, Ukraine is a freaking club med.

Club Med? So far, Ukraine has turned every single Chechen sent by Putin and Kadyrov into dogmeat. The Chechnya of then was a different generation.

First, you don’t know if it was every single one of them. Second, the current generation has fighters who are ISIS graduates. And third, I was referring to civilians on the ground who had it much worse in grozny with no refugee corridor at the time.

I've seen enough reports to know that most of the troops Kadyrov sent have been eliminated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Putin is 70 years old. Male life expectancy in Russia is just over 73.

He is going to go out in flames. I just hope the US has compromised their nukes enough to reduce his damage.

EU and NATO are too little too late; imo the fate of the entire world rests on all the spending of America for defense.

But Putin’s healthcare is not as bad as a normal person’s healthcare. For that life expectancy, I’d want to know if assassination/poisoning counts. Russia kills a lot of people (“falling” out of windows, etc).

And who is counted? And what kind of preventative healthcare is offered? And how do varying levels of healthcare compare between Putin and everyone else?

I have a feeling Putin will beat the normal life expectancy.

[Anonymous]

Last I remember seeing the average lifespan for a Russian man was late 50's. That's the ordinary, impoverished little people out in the hinters of the motherland. Not the health obsessed leader of the country with every obtainable resource within reach. No reason he can't make it to his 90's. Assuming there isn't something more serious going on that is being hidden.