Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

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Did they ever name the psychologist Skinner sent the parents to for testing or am I misconstruing something? I thought he had a psychologost in his pocket but there hasn't been any mention of it.

Does anyone have an idea how far back this went?

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Singer not Skinner...

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Mr. Tobin got all three of his daughters into Yale through this scam? Now one of them is in Med School. That is disgusting.

This is WRONG and so unfair to his kids. Three got in on their own. The Yale soccer coach offered to accept a bribe for the fourth. Mr. Tobin exposed it. Mr. Tobin was not charged in the college admissions case because he did not take part in it (although he has other legal issues). Both of my kids know his. They are smart and were accepted on their merits. Of course, now they have to deal with not only the shame of their dad's other actions and his ties (being the tipster) on this case, and people like you questioning their right to be at Yale.

Were they recruited soccer players at Yale?

His daughter is conveniently on the club soccer team at Yale.

So now you can get tips for club soccer? How about just giving them a bump for intramurals.

No - it means it is very easy for her to get a paid tag put on her.

She’s a player but probably got recruited (but good enough for the intercollegiate team) under the table with the knowledge she will never join the main team and just play club if she wants to.

The fake crew was the most egregious- more common is a normal player to get a recruit tag on them but never actually be a real recruit

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Mr. Tobin got all three of his daughters into Yale through this scam? Now one of them is in Med School. That is disgusting.

This is WRONG and so unfair to his kids. Three got in on their own. The Yale soccer coach offered to accept a bribe for the fourth. Mr. Tobin exposed it. Mr. Tobin was not charged in the college admissions case because he did not take part in it (although he has other legal issues). Both of my kids know his. They are smart and were accepted on their merits. Of course, now they have to deal with not only the shame of their dad's other actions and his ties (being the tipster) on this case, and people like you questioning their right to be at Yale.

People like us have no rights to question the merits of people like him and his kids? I think we have the right to question everyone at this point. Who can be trusted anymore?

I thought Tobin got out of being charged in Varsity Blues roundup because he tipped off the FBI. Immunity deal. How do you know older girls were not part of it?

Why would the coach approach Tobin unless Tobin has done it before for his other kids? You think the coach would just be so stupid as to randomly approach someone? There has to be past history.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

Exactly. You think someone who never smoked crack could just hand over a crack distribution conspiracy to the FBI? Not a chance.

+1000

Tobin is a Yale alum. His kids had legacy preferences no matter what. So it's not like the playing field was ever equal for them anyway.

The hardest thing is getting in. PP said their kids knew Tobins kids and Tobin kids were smart. Sure, so are hundred of other kids. But would Tobins kids have gotten in on their own without greasing the palm of the coach? Not all legacies kids get in. So what was different w Tobins kids? Had to be bribes else why would coach approach Tobin for another bribe for another kid? There has to a pattern or history of Tobin doing this.

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Mr. Tobin got all three of his daughters into Yale through this scam? Now one of them is in Med School. That is disgusting.

This is WRONG and so unfair to his kids. Three got in on their own. The Yale soccer coach offered to accept a bribe for the fourth. Mr. Tobin exposed it. Mr. Tobin was not charged in the college admissions case because he did not take part in it (although he has other legal issues). Both of my kids know his. They are smart and were accepted on their merits. Of course, now they have to deal with not only the shame of their dad's other actions and his ties (being the tipster) on this case, and people like you questioning their right to be at Yale.

People like us have no rights to question the merits of people like him and his kids? I think we have the right to question everyone at this point. Who can be trusted anymore?

I thought Tobin got out of being charged in Varsity Blues roundup because he tipped off the FBI. Immunity deal. How do you know older girls were not part of it?

Why would the coach approach Tobin unless Tobin has done it before for his other kids? You think the coach would just be so stupid as to randomly approach someone? There has to be past history.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

Exactly. You think someone who never smoked crack could just hand over a crack distribution conspiracy to the FBI? Not a chance.

+1000

Tobin is a Yale alum. His kids had legacy preferences no matter what. So it's not like the playing field was ever equal for them anyway.

The hardest thing is getting in. PP said their kids knew Tobins kids and Tobin kids were smart. Sure, so are hundred of other kids. But would Tobins kids have gotten in on their own without greasing the palm of the coach? Not all legacies kids get in. So what was different w Tobins kids? Had to be bribes else why would coach approach Tobin for another bribe for another kid? There has to a pattern or history of Tobin doing this.

Agreed. I'm not saying his kids are geniuses. I don't know anything about them. Just saying that for every Tobin kid that we're reading about now, there are hundreds of others, with rich parents and well-connected legacies greasing the wheels. It's the tip of the iceberg.

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Anonymous wrote:Did they ever name the psychologist Skinner sent the parents to for testing or am I misconstruing something? I thought he had a psychologost in his pocket but there hasn't been any mention of it.

Does anyone have an idea how far back this went?

Er..the very wealthy have connections and doctors that they can pay themselves to get diagnosis. It happens all the time at private schools. Singer didn’t need a doctor in his pocket.

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Mr. Tobin got all three of his daughters into Yale through this scam? Now one of them is in Med School. That is disgusting.

This is WRONG and so unfair to his kids. Three got in on their own. The Yale soccer coach offered to accept a bribe for the fourth. Mr. Tobin exposed it. Mr. Tobin was not charged in the college admissions case because he did not take part in it (although he has other legal issues). Both of my kids know his. They are smart and were accepted on their merits. Of course, now they have to deal with not only the shame of their dad's other actions and his ties (being the tipster) on this case, and people like you questioning their right to be at Yale.

People like us have no rights to question the merits of people like him and his kids? I think we have the right to question everyone at this point. Who can be trusted anymore?

I thought Tobin got out of being charged in Varsity Blues roundup because he tipped off the FBI. Immunity deal. How do you know older girls were not part of it?

Why would the coach approach Tobin unless Tobin has done it before for his other kids? You think the coach would just be so stupid as to randomly approach someone? There has to be past history.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

Exactly. You think someone who never smoked crack could just hand over a crack distribution conspiracy to the FBI? Not a chance.

+1000

Tobin is a Yale alum. His kids had legacy preferences no matter what. So it's not like the playing field was ever equal for them anyway.

The hardest thing is getting in. PP said their kids knew Tobins kids and Tobin kids were smart. Sure, so are hundred of other kids. But would Tobins kids have gotten in on their own without greasing the palm of the coach? Not all legacies kids get in. So what was different w Tobins kids? Had to be bribes else why would coach approach Tobin for another bribe for another kid? There has to a pattern or history of Tobin doing this.

Right! Lots of smart kids out there getting denied because of these crooks. Club soccer- yeah he paid.

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Mr. Tobin got all three of his daughters into Yale through this scam? Now one of them is in Med School. That is disgusting.

This is WRONG and so unfair to his kids. Three got in on their own. The Yale soccer coach offered to accept a bribe for the fourth. Mr. Tobin exposed it. Mr. Tobin was not charged in the college admissions case because he did not take part in it (although he has other legal issues). Both of my kids know his. They are smart and were accepted on their merits. Of course, now they have to deal with not only the shame of their dad's other actions and his ties (being the tipster) on this case, and people like you questioning their right to be at Yale.

People like us have no rights to question the merits of people like him and his kids? I think we have the right to question everyone at this point. Who can be trusted anymore?

I thought Tobin got out of being charged in Varsity Blues roundup because he tipped off the FBI. Immunity deal. How do you know older girls were not part of it?

Why would the coach approach Tobin unless Tobin has done it before for his other kids? You think the coach would just be so stupid as to randomly approach someone? There has to be past history.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

Exactly. You think someone who never smoked crack could just hand over a crack distribution conspiracy to the FBI? Not a chance.

+1000

Tobin is a Yale alum. His kids had legacy preferences no matter what. So it's not like the playing field was ever equal for them anyway.

The hardest thing is getting in. PP said their kids knew Tobins kids and Tobin kids were smart. Sure, so are hundred of other kids. But would Tobins kids have gotten in on their own without greasing the palm of the coach? Not all legacies kids get in. So what was different w Tobins kids? Had to be bribes else why would coach approach Tobin for another bribe for another kid? There has to a pattern or history of Tobin doing this.

Was Tobin actually a graduate of Yale? This WSJ article says that he only attended and played hockey for Yale in the 1980s before transferring to the Univ of Vermont. Anyone know?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/the-yale-dad-who-set-off-the-college-admissions-scandal-11552588402

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Mr. Tobin got all three of his daughters into Yale through this scam? Now one of them is in Med School. That is disgusting.

This is WRONG and so unfair to his kids. Three got in on their own. The Yale soccer coach offered to accept a bribe for the fourth. Mr. Tobin exposed it. Mr. Tobin was not charged in the college admissions case because he did not take part in it (although he has other legal issues). Both of my kids know his. They are smart and were accepted on their merits. Of course, now they have to deal with not only the shame of their dad's other actions and his ties (being the tipster) on this case, and people like you questioning their right to be at Yale.

People like us have no rights to question the merits of people like him and his kids? I think we have the right to question everyone at this point. Who can be trusted anymore?

I thought Tobin got out of being charged in Varsity Blues roundup because he tipped off the FBI. Immunity deal. How do you know older girls were not part of it?

Why would the coach approach Tobin unless Tobin has done it before for his other kids? You think the coach would just be so stupid as to randomly approach someone? There has to be past history.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

Exactly. You think someone who never smoked crack could just hand over a crack distribution conspiracy to the FBI? Not a chance.

+1000

Tobin is a Yale alum. His kids had legacy preferences no matter what. So it's not like the playing field was ever equal for them anyway.

The hardest thing is getting in. PP said their kids knew Tobins kids and Tobin kids were smart. Sure, so are hundred of other kids. But would Tobins kids have gotten in on their own without greasing the palm of the coach? Not all legacies kids get in. So what was different w Tobins kids? Had to be bribes else why would coach approach Tobin for another bribe for another kid? There has to a pattern or history of Tobin doing this.

NP. This is a good point.
Although, they could have also gotten in without bribery and relied on his alumni relationships alone.
We don't know.
This is what we do know: It's virtually impossible getting into Yale even IF you're super super smart. I'm sure she got a leg up, as do almost all legacy kids who end up at Ivies.

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Mr. Tobin got all three of his daughters into Yale through this scam? Now one of them is in Med School. That is disgusting.

This is WRONG and so unfair to his kids. Three got in on their own. The Yale soccer coach offered to accept a bribe for the fourth. Mr. Tobin exposed it. Mr. Tobin was not charged in the college admissions case because he did not take part in it (although he has other legal issues). Both of my kids know his. They are smart and were accepted on their merits. Of course, now they have to deal with not only the shame of their dad's other actions and his ties (being the tipster) on this case, and people like you questioning their right to be at Yale.

People like us have no rights to question the merits of people like him and his kids? I think we have the right to question everyone at this point. Who can be trusted anymore?

I thought Tobin got out of being charged in Varsity Blues roundup because he tipped off the FBI. Immunity deal. How do you know older girls were not part of it?

Why would the coach approach Tobin unless Tobin has done it before for his other kids? You think the coach would just be so stupid as to randomly approach someone? There has to be past history.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

Exactly. You think someone who never smoked crack could just hand over a crack distribution conspiracy to the FBI? Not a chance.

+1000

Tobin is a Yale alum. His kids had legacy preferences no matter what. So it's not like the playing field was ever equal for them anyway.

The hardest thing is getting in. PP said their kids knew Tobins kids and Tobin kids were smart. Sure, so are hundred of other kids. But would Tobins kids have gotten in on their own without greasing the palm of the coach? Not all legacies kids get in. So what was different w Tobins kids? Had to be bribes else why would coach approach Tobin for another bribe for another kid? There has to a pattern or history of Tobin doing this.

Agreed. I'm not saying his kids are geniuses. I don't know anything about them. Just saying that for every Tobin kid that we're reading about now, there are hundreds of others, with rich parents and well-connected legacies greasing the wheels. It's the tip of the iceberg.

Of course, because when you visit a campus, do you not notice names on the buildings, or lecture series or professorships, etc? All those are $$$ who donated, their kids go to private schools, play a sport and are recruited to HYP and Stanford. None are national caliber athletes - if they were, there would be no need of a donation. But it is a “legit” side door for the wealthy families to get their kids in. Which is why I don’t understand why Felicity H. with her Yale legacy that goes back generations didn’t do it this way - a celebrity w $1M donation could get into Brown or Yale.

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Mr. Tobin got all three of his daughters into Yale through this scam? Now one of them is in Med School. That is disgusting.

This is WRONG and so unfair to his kids. Three got in on their own. The Yale soccer coach offered to accept a bribe for the fourth. Mr. Tobin exposed it. Mr. Tobin was not charged in the college admissions case because he did not take part in it (although he has other legal issues). Both of my kids know his. They are smart and were accepted on their merits. Of course, now they have to deal with not only the shame of their dad's other actions and his ties (being the tipster) on this case, and people like you questioning their right to be at Yale.

People like us have no rights to question the merits of people like him and his kids? I think we have the right to question everyone at this point. Who can be trusted anymore?

I thought Tobin got out of being charged in Varsity Blues roundup because he tipped off the FBI. Immunity deal. How do you know older girls were not part of it?

Why would the coach approach Tobin unless Tobin has done it before for his other kids? You think the coach would just be so stupid as to randomly approach someone? There has to be past history.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

Exactly. You think someone who never smoked crack could just hand over a crack distribution conspiracy to the FBI? Not a chance.

+1000

Tobin is a Yale alum. His kids had legacy preferences no matter what. So it's not like the playing field was ever equal for them anyway.

The hardest thing is getting in. PP said their kids knew Tobins kids and Tobin kids were smart. Sure, so are hundred of other kids. But would Tobins kids have gotten in on their own without greasing the palm of the coach? Not all legacies kids get in. So what was different w Tobins kids? Had to be bribes else why would coach approach Tobin for another bribe for another kid? There has to a pattern or history of Tobin doing this.

NP. This is a good point.
Although, they could have also gotten in without bribery and relied on his alumni relationships alone.
We don't know.
This is what we do know: It's virtually impossible getting into Yale even IF you're super super smart. I'm sure she got a leg up, as do almost all legacy kids who end up at Ivies.

Lots of double IVY legacies kids don’t get in. Those who do either donate $$$, super athlete, super smart. Doubt club soccer would cut it. And to have 3 kids get in that have nothing exceptional - what do you think of the chances? And then for coach to approach for bribe for the 4th kid? What do you think? Out of the blue the coach is going to approach someone for a bribe? The coach would only approach someone who has a PAID a bribe before...and coach knows has been willing to pay a bribe again as coach has delivered in the past.

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Mr. Tobin got all three of his daughters into Yale through this scam? Now one of them is in Med School. That is disgusting.

This is WRONG and so unfair to his kids. Three got in on their own. The Yale soccer coach offered to accept a bribe for the fourth. Mr. Tobin exposed it. Mr. Tobin was not charged in the college admissions case because he did not take part in it (although he has other legal issues). Both of my kids know his. They are smart and were accepted on their merits. Of course, now they have to deal with not only the shame of their dad's other actions and his ties (being the tipster) on this case, and people like you questioning their right to be at Yale.

People like us have no rights to question the merits of people like him and his kids? I think we have the right to question everyone at this point. Who can be trusted anymore?

I thought Tobin got out of being charged in Varsity Blues roundup because he tipped off the FBI. Immunity deal. How do you know older girls were not part of it?

Why would the coach approach Tobin unless Tobin has done it before for his other kids? You think the coach would just be so stupid as to randomly approach someone? There has to be past history.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

Exactly. You think someone who never smoked crack could just hand over a crack distribution conspiracy to the FBI? Not a chance.

+1000

Tobin is a Yale alum. His kids had legacy preferences no matter what. So it's not like the playing field was ever equal for them anyway.

The hardest thing is getting in. PP said their kids knew Tobins kids and Tobin kids were smart. Sure, so are hundred of other kids. But would Tobins kids have gotten in on their own without greasing the palm of the coach? Not all legacies kids get in. So what was different w Tobins kids? Had to be bribes else why would coach approach Tobin for another bribe for another kid? There has to a pattern or history of Tobin doing this.

Agreed. I'm not saying his kids are geniuses. I don't know anything about them. Just saying that for every Tobin kid that we're reading about now, there are hundreds of others, with rich parents and well-connected legacies greasing the wheels. It's the tip of the iceberg.

Of course, because when you visit a campus, do you not notice names on the buildings, or lecture series or professorships, etc? All those are $$$ who donated, their kids go to private schools, play a sport and are recruited to HYP and Stanford. None are national caliber athletes - if they were, there would be no need of a donation. But it is a “legit” side door for the wealthy families to get their kids in. Which is why I don’t understand why Felicity H. with her Yale legacy that goes back generations didn’t do it this way - a celebrity w $1M donation could get into Brown or Yale.

Because they said they wanted absolute certainty their kid would get in. What with all the other celebrity, alums, CEOs, politician's, diplomats, billionaire kids to compete with they paid.

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Mr. Tobin got all three of his daughters into Yale through this scam? Now one of them is in Med School. That is disgusting.

This is WRONG and so unfair to his kids. Three got in on their own. The Yale soccer coach offered to accept a bribe for the fourth. Mr. Tobin exposed it. Mr. Tobin was not charged in the college admissions case because he did not take part in it (although he has other legal issues). Both of my kids know his. They are smart and were accepted on their merits. Of course, now they have to deal with not only the shame of their dad's other actions and his ties (being the tipster) on this case, and people like you questioning their right to be at Yale.

People like us have no rights to question the merits of people like him and his kids? I think we have the right to question everyone at this point. Who can be trusted anymore?

I thought Tobin got out of being charged in Varsity Blues roundup because he tipped off the FBI. Immunity deal. How do you know older girls were not part of it?

Why would the coach approach Tobin unless Tobin has done it before for his other kids? You think the coach would just be so stupid as to randomly approach someone? There has to be past history.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

Exactly. You think someone who never smoked crack could just hand over a crack distribution conspiracy to the FBI? Not a chance.

+1000

Tobin is a Yale alum. His kids had legacy preferences no matter what. So it's not like the playing field was ever equal for them anyway.

The hardest thing is getting in. PP said their kids knew Tobins kids and Tobin kids were smart. Sure, so are hundred of other kids. But would Tobins kids have gotten in on their own without greasing the palm of the coach? Not all legacies kids get in. So what was different w Tobins kids? Had to be bribes else why would coach approach Tobin for another bribe for another kid? There has to a pattern or history of Tobin doing this.

NP. This is a good point.
Although, they could have also gotten in without bribery and relied on his alumni relationships alone.
We don't know.
This is what we do know: It's virtually impossible getting into Yale even IF you're super super smart. I'm sure she got a leg up, as do almost all legacy kids who end up at Ivies.

Lots of double IVY legacies kids don’t get in. Those who do either donate $$$, super athlete, super smart. Doubt club soccer would cut it. And to have 3 kids get in that have nothing exceptional - what do you think of the chances? And then for coach to approach for bribe for the 4th kid? What do you think? Out of the blue the coach is going to approach someone for a bribe? The coach would only approach someone who has a PAID a bribe before...and coach knows has been willing to pay a bribe again as coach has delivered in the past.

Probably had some fake injury over the summer that "cut" her from the real soccer team and put her down to club.

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Mr. Tobin got all three of his daughters into Yale through this scam? Now one of them is in Med School. That is disgusting.

This is WRONG and so unfair to his kids. Three got in on their own. The Yale soccer coach offered to accept a bribe for the fourth. Mr. Tobin exposed it. Mr. Tobin was not charged in the college admissions case because he did not take part in it (although he has other legal issues). Both of my kids know his. They are smart and were accepted on their merits. Of course, now they have to deal with not only the shame of their dad's other actions and his ties (being the tipster) on this case, and people like you questioning their right to be at Yale.

People like us have no rights to question the merits of people like him and his kids? I think we have the right to question everyone at this point. Who can be trusted anymore?

I thought Tobin got out of being charged in Varsity Blues roundup because he tipped off the FBI. Immunity deal. How do you know older girls were not part of it?

Why would the coach approach Tobin unless Tobin has done it before for his other kids? You think the coach would just be so stupid as to randomly approach someone? There has to be past history.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

Exactly. You think someone who never smoked crack could just hand over a crack distribution conspiracy to the FBI? Not a chance.

+1000

Tobin is a Yale alum. His kids had legacy preferences no matter what. So it's not like the playing field was ever equal for them anyway.

Yale to Jail.

Ha!

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Mr. Tobin got all three of his daughters into Yale through this scam? Now one of them is in Med School. That is disgusting.

This is WRONG and so unfair to his kids. Three got in on their own. The Yale soccer coach offered to accept a bribe for the fourth. Mr. Tobin exposed it. Mr. Tobin was not charged in the college admissions case because he did not take part in it (although he has other legal issues). Both of my kids know his. They are smart and were accepted on their merits. Of course, now they have to deal with not only the shame of their dad's other actions and his ties (being the tipster) on this case, and people like you questioning their right to be at Yale.

People like us have no rights to question the merits of people like him and his kids? I think we have the right to question everyone at this point. Who can be trusted anymore?

I thought Tobin got out of being charged in Varsity Blues roundup because he tipped off the FBI. Immunity deal. How do you know older girls were not part of it?

Why would the coach approach Tobin unless Tobin has done it before for his other kids? You think the coach would just be so stupid as to randomly approach someone? There has to be past history.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

Exactly. You think someone who never smoked crack could just hand over a crack distribution conspiracy to the FBI? Not a chance.

+1000

Tobin is a Yale alum. His kids had legacy preferences no matter what. So it's not like the playing field was ever equal for them anyway.

The hardest thing is getting in. PP said their kids knew Tobins kids and Tobin kids were smart. Sure, so are hundred of other kids. But would Tobins kids have gotten in on their own without greasing the palm of the coach? Not all legacies kids get in. So what was different w Tobins kids? Had to be bribes else why would coach approach Tobin for another bribe for another kid? There has to a pattern or history of Tobin doing this.

NP. This is a good point.
Although, they could have also gotten in without bribery and relied on his alumni relationships alone.
We don't know.
This is what we do know: It's virtually impossible getting into Yale even IF you're super super smart. I'm sure she got a leg up, as do almost all legacy kids who end up at Ivies.

In the indictment, Singer is quoted as saying that his wealthy clients wanted a guarantee.

Tobin was probably aware that even qualified legacy students don't automatically make it in.

Bribing the coach is also far cheaper than endowing a building.