How long will the shutdown last?

[Anonymous]

From the federal soup message board:
"Heard third hand today in Austin AM that of the 1,600 who were called back about 400 showed up to work. Witnessed about 100 of those who came on walk out today after hearing UI would only be allowed if you requested hardship and walked away."

"10 of the 11 of us on my team showed up Thurs. 8 of the 11 of us, including me filed hardship today. We all left by 11 AM"

I guess Trump could mobilize the military or national guard and have them work in the IRS call centers all day answering 1800 calls about complicated tax questions since the low paid IRS employees cannot afford to do these jobs without a timely paycheck then when the shutdown is over the IRS employees can take back over.

[Anonymous]

Question about tomorrow’s Senate votes - if the Schumer proposal is essentially the same as what the House passed earlier this month, why are folks now saying it’s likely to fail in the Senate? I thought part of the outrage about McConnell not allowing a vote is that it was expected to pass and would force Trump to veto? But now it’s not expected to pass? Or is it not the same as what the House previously passed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Question about tomorrow’s Senate votes - if the Schumer proposal is essentially the same as what the House passed earlier this month, why are folks now saying it’s likely to fail in the Senate? I thought part of the outrage about McConnell not allowing a vote is that it was expected to pass and would force Trump to veto? But now it’s not expected to pass? Or is it not the same as what the House previously passed?

I thought he was putting out a bill to give what Trump proposed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question about tomorrow’s Senate votes - if the Schumer proposal is essentially the same as what the House passed earlier this month, why are folks now saying it’s likely to fail in the Senate? I thought part of the outrage about McConnell not allowing a vote is that it was expected to pass and would force Trump to veto? But now it’s not expected to pass? Or is it not the same as what the House previously passed?

I thought he was putting out a bill to give what Trump proposed?

There are supposed to be 2 Senate votes Thursday on “competing” bills. McConnell’s is the Trump proposal. Question above looks to be about Schumer’s bill.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Question about tomorrow’s Senate votes - if the Schumer proposal is essentially the same as what the House passed earlier this month, why are folks now saying it’s likely to fail in the Senate? I thought part of the outrage about McConnell not allowing a vote is that it was expected to pass and would force Trump to veto? But now it’s not expected to pass? Or is it not the same as what the House previously passed?

I thought he was putting out a bill to give what Trump proposed?

There are supposed to be 2 Senate votes Thursday on “competing” bills. McConnell’s is the Trump proposal. Question above looks to be about Schumer’s bill.

Trump has probably talked Republican's out of voting for it. My guess is that if McConnel's bill passes the Senate, Pelosi will put it up for a vote in the House and it will fail to pass the House proving that Trump doesn't have the votes to get what he wants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question about tomorrow’s Senate votes - if the Schumer proposal is essentially the same as what the House passed earlier this month, why are folks now saying it’s likely to fail in the Senate? I thought part of the outrage about McConnell not allowing a vote is that it was expected to pass and would force Trump to veto? But now it’s not expected to pass? Or is it not the same as what the House previously passed?

I thought he was putting out a bill to give what Trump proposed?

There are supposed to be 2 Senate votes Thursday on “competing” bills. McConnell’s is the Trump proposal. Question above looks to be about Schumer’s bill.

Trump has probably talked Republican's out of voting for it. My guess is that if McConnel's bill passes the Senate, Pelosi will put it up for a vote in the House and it will fail to pass the House proving that Trump doesn't have the votes to get what he wants.

There are no democrat vote for Turtle bill. And infact there maybe republican desertion in the form of gardner and collins.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just start permanent layoffs. No one misses these civil servants.

Go on strike. Do it!

I'm sure you didn't realize, when this happens contractors are hired back to do the same work at 2-3 times the cost. Then you have to pay for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question about tomorrow’s Senate votes - if the Schumer proposal is essentially the same as what the House passed earlier this month, why are folks now saying it’s likely to fail in the Senate? I thought part of the outrage about McConnell not allowing a vote is that it was expected to pass and would force Trump to veto? But now it’s not expected to pass? Or is it not the same as what the House previously passed?

I thought he was putting out a bill to give what Trump proposed?

There are supposed to be 2 Senate votes Thursday on “competing” bills. McConnell’s is the Trump proposal. Question above looks to be about Schumer’s bill.

Trump has probably talked Republican's out of voting for it. My guess is that if McConnel's bill passes the Senate, Pelosi will put it up for a vote in the House and it will fail to pass the House proving that Trump doesn't have the votes to get what he wants.

There are no democrat vote for Turtle bill. And infact there maybe republican desertion in the form of gardner and collins.

There won't be enough republicans willing to vote the way the did on the same bill in December. The vote was unanimous. They've been told they need to support Trump's bill and oppose Schumer's. Both bills will fail.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just start permanent layoffs. No one misses these civil servants.

Go on strike. Do it!

You have no idea what my agency does for you, and you never will know unless we stop doing it. Then you'll notice and you won't like at all. You're welcome.

Keep living in your little bubble.

Hey PP do you like being sure you are getting the amount of gas you paid for?
https://www.nist.gov/
Do you like accurate weather forecasts?
https://www.noaa.gov/
Do you want farmers to have access to research on crop diseases and the complex ecosystems they depend upon for their livelihood?
https://www.ars.usda.gov/
Do you like your drugs tested and the labs and manufacturing facilities they come from inspected?
https://www.fda.gov/
Do you want the Chinese to pull ahead of us in space research?
https://www.nasa.gov/
Do you want our country’s rich historical and cultural heritage preserved and easy to access for your children?
https://www.si.edu/museums
Do you want our country’s rich natural treasures preserved and easy to access for your children?
https://www.doi.gov/
These are just a few of the federal agencies that are shutdown. The impact of the shutdown may not be noticeable right now but the impact is real and will have a long term impact on our country
I hope I don’t need to go explain why it is a bad idea for our courts to cease operations on Friday and for the FBI to be unable to purchase equipment including ammunition. Or why our State department needs to pay embassy staff in hot spots or for our TSA agents, border patrol agents, federal prison guards and coast guards to be able to put gas in their tanks to get to work without having to go to a payday lender


Scientific research represents just 2% of the federal budget
https://www.cbpp.org/most-of-budget-goes-toward-defense-social-security-and-major-health-programs-0
Would love to know what you would like to cut
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/hist04z2-fy2019.xlsx

I am still waiting for the poster who wants to cut 15% to give me a thoughtful proposal

[Anonymous]

I think it will be resolved within one week. Lots of pressure on both sides (as there should be).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it will be resolved within one week. Lots of pressure on both sides (as there should be).

+1 My hope is early next week. But I've been wrong each time I thought there was hope in the past.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just start permanent layoffs. No one misses these civil servants.

Go on strike. Do it!

Yeah Coast Guard should quit confiscating drugs and migrants off the coast. Maybe Trump can build a wall along all the beaches instead.

There should be no security checks at seaports, airports or food plants either.

Already the FBI has run out of money that it's used in operations trying to crack down on drug dealings.

This is a reason to keep gov shutdown

Billions have been wasted for the war on drugs. Created by Nixon. A favorite of DCUM elites

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just start permanent layoffs. No one misses these civil servants.

Go on strike. Do it!

Yeah Coast Guard should quit confiscating drugs and migrants off the coast. Maybe Trump can build a wall along all the beaches instead.

There should be no security checks at seaports, airports or food plants either.

Already the FBI has run out of money that it's used in operations trying to crack down on drug dealings.

This is a reason to keep gov shutdown

Billions have been wasted for the war on drugs. Created by Nixon. A favorite of DCUM elites

Actually, it has always been more of a Republican favorite than Democrat, since it's a good way to send minorities to jail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just start permanent layoffs. No one misses these civil servants.

Go on strike. Do it!

Yeah Coast Guard should quit confiscating drugs and migrants off the coast. Maybe Trump can build a wall along all the beaches instead.

There should be no security checks at seaports, airports or food plants either.

Already the FBI has run out of money that it's used in operations trying to crack down on drug dealings.

I'm sure Trump wants to layoff FBI and any law enforcement / justice / court operations he can right now.

[Anonymous]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/white-house-seeks-list-of-programs-that-would-be-hurt-if-shutdown-lasts-into-march/2019/01/23/661adb3a-1f55-11e9-9145-3f74070bbdb9_story.html

White House acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney has pressed agency leaders to provide him with a list of the highest-impact programs that will be jeopardized if the shutdown continues into March and April, people familiar with the directive said.

Mulvaney wants the list no later than Friday, these people said, and it’s the firmest evidence to date that the White House is preparing for a lengthy funding lapse that could have snowballing consequences for the economy and government services.

The request is the first known inquiry from a top White House official seeking information about the spreading impact of the shutdown, which has entered its fifth week and is the longest in U.S. history. So far, top White House officials have been particularly focused on lengthening wait times at airport security, but not the sprawling interruption of programs elsewhere in the government.

The people spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to disclose Mulvaney’s demand.

Yes, Trump is preparing to cause irreversible damage to our country. We need a Venezuela style revolt and World should recognize Pelosi as the POTUS.