Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

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Anonymous wrote:The college admission scandal is basically 9/11 for upper middle class white people. Haven’t seen them so upset by something in years.

This has nothing to do with “upper middle class white people,” dummy. It has to do with rich, entitled assholes.


No it has to do with UMC white peoples and Asians who have stacked the deck against the poors and are getting a taste of their own medicine.


Eh? This is pretty stupid. UMC white people and Asians probably have the most difficult time in college admissions because they are the largest groups applying to college and don't have the special hooks or minority status.

All these people nabbed in the cheating scandal were outright rich. Very rich. You have to be rich to easily write checks for hundreds of thousands of dollars just to cheat on the SAT. You only do that if the money means nothing to you. An UMC family, even with a few million net worth, is not writing 6 figure checks to cheat on the SATs. The law firm boss was pulling in an income of 10 million a year. The Abbotts in New York with their blunt smoking son have their apartment on the market for $20 million. Felicity the actress was arrested at her $35 million dollar LA house. That's the kind of wealth we're talking about. Not upper middle class making a few hundred grand a year.





Yes, but it's the UMC whites and Asians who have created this problem. With private schools, 10 AP's, segregated schools, test prep, and tutors ... they have created an unhealthy environment for kids to try to compete for college spots.

The poors have been saying it for year... the process is broken and favors the rich. The whole process favors kids in high ranking schools and money to learn outside of school.

You created this mess and now your are crying because richer people were beating you at your own game.

Wahhh! I don't feel sorry for you. The millionaire vs the billionaires.... cry me a river.


I think the elite universities, the College Board (a huge money making non profit), USNWR, etc created this mess. The elite want to stay elite.


If people refused to play the college boards would not be a "huge money maker" ... USNWR would be useless

But UMC's feed the monster then get pissed when they get bit in the a$$.


So I am sitting here looking at a Harvey Mudd flyer that came in the mail. It says ACT or SAT required and SAT subject test in Math 2 and another subject test required. I am sure they expect some AP classes. So that is paying the College Board at least six times. Tiny little Harvey Mudd for engineering requires a student pay the college board at least six times.



I'd be more impressed with an investigation on how much the college board kicks back to Universities.
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Anonymous wrote:Phil Mickelson admitted using Singer's company "to help guide them through the admissions process" but he denies paying anyone off. Why would anyone believe him at this point? Getting out ahead of it...?


Joe Montana just issued similar statement:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/joe-montana-denies-wrongdoing-college-004610338.html
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Phil Mickelson admitted using Singer's company "to help guide them through the admissions process" but he denies paying anyone off. Why would anyone believe him at this point? Getting out ahead of it...?


Joe Montana just issued similar statement:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/joe-montana-denies-wrongdoing-college-004610338.html


Hard work and merit... come on Joe ... don't you have a PR company that can help you write your statement.

I realize that since I am rich a F my kids had every benefit in the world and were able to get into college without breaking the law.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Phil Mickelson admitted using Singer's company "to help guide them through the admissions process" but he denies paying anyone off. Why would anyone believe him at this point? Getting out ahead of it...?


Joe Montana just issued similar statement:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/joe-montana-denies-wrongdoing-college-004610338.html


Hard work and merit... come on Joe ... don't you have a PR company that can help you write your statement.

I realize that since I am rich a F my kids had every benefit in the world and were able to get into college without breaking the law.


DP. Yeah except JM’s younger son really is an outstanding & well known student athlete and could get into college on that. No photoshopping, lol.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Phil Mickelson admitted using Singer's company "to help guide them through the admissions process" but he denies paying anyone off. Why would anyone believe him at this point? Getting out ahead of it...?


Joe Montana just issued similar statement:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/joe-montana-denies-wrongdoing-college-004610338.html


Hard work and merit... come on Joe ... don't you have a PR company that can help you write your statement.

I realize that since I am rich a F my kids had every benefit in the world and were able to get into college without breaking the law.


DP. Yeah except JM’s younger son really is an outstanding & well known student athlete and could get into college on that. No photoshopping, lol.


with private trainers and chefs... sure
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o I am sitting here looking at a Harvey Mudd flyer that came in the mail. It says ACT or SAT required and SAT subject test in Math 2 and another subject test required. I am sure they expect some AP classes. So that is paying the College Board at least six times. Tiny little Harvey Mudd for engineering requires a student pay the college board at least six times.



I'd be more impressed with an investigation on how much the college board kicks back to Universities.


Well, at least you get credit for AP classes. DD started college as a "social" freshman--but was an academic sophomore.
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Anonymous wrote:Phil Mickelson admitted using Singer's company "to help guide them through the admissions process" but he denies paying anyone off. Why would anyone believe him at this point? Getting out ahead of it...?


Mickelson's daughter currently attends Brown...
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Phil Mickelson admitted using Singer's company "to help guide them through the admissions process" but he denies paying anyone off. Why would anyone believe him at this point? Getting out ahead of it...?


Mickelson's daughter currently attends Brown...


Well-known back-door admissions university. I think he could have paid her way in through Brown donations instead of using Singer. Who knows?
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Anonymous wrote:I must be extremely naive but it would never occur to me that people would pay someone to take their SATs or bribe a proctor or bribe coaches. I sort of still cannot believe it.


Naive and apparently not a consumer of the news. There have been loads of such cases over the years.


Ok, I guess I just haven't had the time to read all the news about college admissions scandals over the years. "Loads of cases"? Really? I am just trying to live my life and raise my kids, just a regular person with regular friends and a regular life. Oh well.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The college admission scandal is basically 9/11 for upper middle class white people. Haven’t seen them so upset by something in years.

This has nothing to do with “upper middle class white people,” dummy. It has to do with rich, entitled assholes.


No it has to do with UMC white peoples and Asians who have stacked the deck against the poors and are getting a taste of their own medicine.


Eh? This is pretty stupid. UMC white people and Asians probably have the most difficult time in college admissions because they are the largest groups applying to college and don't have the special hooks or minority status.

All these people nabbed in the cheating scandal were outright rich. Very rich. You have to be rich to easily write checks for hundreds of thousands of dollars just to cheat on the SAT. You only do that if the money means nothing to you. An UMC family, even with a few million net worth, is not writing 6 figure checks to cheat on the SATs. The law firm boss was pulling in an income of 10 million a year. The Abbotts in New York with their blunt smoking son have their apartment on the market for $20 million. Felicity the actress was arrested at her $35 million dollar LA house. That's the kind of wealth we're talking about. Not upper middle class making a few hundred grand a year.





Yes, but it's the UMC whites and Asians who have created this problem. With private schools, 10 AP's, segregated schools, test prep, and tutors ... they have created an unhealthy environment for kids to try to compete for college spots.

The poors have been saying it for year... the process is broken and favors the rich. The whole process favors kids in high ranking schools and money to learn outside of school.

You created this mess and now your are crying because richer people were beating you at your own game.

Wahhh! I don't feel sorry for you. The millionaire vs the billionaires.... cry me a river.


I think the elite universities, the College Board (a huge money making non profit), USNWR, etc created this mess. The elite want to stay elite.


If people refused to play the college boards would not be a "huge money maker" ... USNWR would be useless

But UMC's feed the monster then get pissed when they get bit in the a$$.


So I am sitting here looking at a Harvey Mudd flyer that came in the mail. It says ACT or SAT required and SAT subject test in Math 2 and another subject test required. I am sure they expect some AP classes. So that is paying the College Board at least six times. Tiny little Harvey Mudd for engineering requires a student pay the college board at least six times.



Yep. The more standardized tests, the more fees. The more times taking the tests to get superscores, the more fees. Test prep books and materials, also money makers. The whole thing is quite a racket.
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Anonymous wrote:What is interesting is that exactly 50 names were given up. I am sure he selected those names with purpose and kept off hundreds that he wanted protected. I think the lawsuit should demand all the names.


He has given up 750. The US attorney cherry picked the biggest names at the beginning. The other 750 will come out in time as the investigation continues.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/college-cheating-mastermind-says-he-helped-nearly-800-families-admissions-n982666


It does not say the other names will come out. It could have been part of Singer’s deal to give up a small number and let him protect certain hundreds of other people.


From the indictment and complaint, they nailed the people they could get on tape admitting to or at least not disputing Singer's statement that the money they gave to his foundation was to cheat on the SAT/ACT and/or bribe a coach or university official or otherwise admit to fraud. The other people may still be investigated but they don't have a recorded admission.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Phil Mickelson admitted using Singer's company "to help guide them through the admissions process" but he denies paying anyone off. Why would anyone believe him at this point? Getting out ahead of it...?


Joe Montana just issued similar statement:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/joe-montana-denies-wrongdoing-college-004610338.html


Hard work and merit... come on Joe ... don't you have a PR company that can help you write your statement.

I realize that since I am rich a F my kids had every benefit in the world and were able to get into college without breaking the law.


DP. Yeah except JM’s younger son really is an outstanding & well known student athlete and could get into college on that. No photoshopping, lol.


His two sons transferred all over the place, including both doing stints their sophomore year in community college. Wonder if they really are such great student-athletes...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Montana (Notre Game to Pasadena City College to Montana to Virginia Wesleyan)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Montana (U of Washington to Community College to Tulane)

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Phil Mickelson admitted using Singer's company "to help guide them through the admissions process" but he denies paying anyone off. Why would anyone believe him at this point? Getting out ahead of it...?


Joe Montana just issued similar statement:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/joe-montana-denies-wrongdoing-college-004610338.html


Hard work and merit... come on Joe ... don't you have a PR company that can help you write your statement.

I realize that since I am rich a F my kids had every benefit in the world and were able to get into college without breaking the law.


DP. Yeah except JM’s younger son really is an outstanding & well known student athlete and could get into college on that. No photoshopping, lol.


His two sons transferred all over the place, including both doing stints their sophomore year in community college. Wonder if they really are such great student-athletes...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Montana (Notre Game to Pasadena City College to Montana to Virginia Wesleyan)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Montana (U of Washington to Community College to Tulane)



No, probably not now, but in their day they were. Just making a distinction between them and Lori Laughlin & Huffman’s kids .
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Phil Mickelson admitted using Singer's company "to help guide them through the admissions process" but he denies paying anyone off. Why would anyone believe him at this point? Getting out ahead of it...?


Joe Montana just issued similar statement:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/joe-montana-denies-wrongdoing-college-004610338.html


Hard work and merit... come on Joe ... don't you have a PR company that can help you write your statement.

I realize that since I am rich a F my kids had every benefit in the world and were able to get into college without breaking the law.


DP. Yeah except JM’s younger son really is an outstanding & well known student athlete and could get into college on that. No photoshopping, lol.


His two sons transferred all over the place, including both doing stints their sophomore year in community college. Wonder if they really are such great student-athletes...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Montana (Notre Game to Pasadena City College to Montana to Virginia Wesleyan)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Montana (U of Washington to Community College to Tulane)



No, probably not now, but in their day they were. Just making a distinction between them and Lori Laughlin & Huffman’s kids .



In their day? You mean in the early 2010s? That wasn't that long ago. Pretty sure two arrests including a DUI plus 4 transfers incluidng a stint in community college, etc. does not make you a great scholar athlete.

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Anonymous wrote:Olivia Jade, Lori Loughlin's daughter, is just the gift that keeps on giving. Here she explaining how her mother MADE her attend college. Starts at 2:25. THIS WAS THREE DAYS AGO!!!!

Lori definitely had no idea what was coming down the pipe.





Wow 16:25 is not going to help his defense
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