Girl Raped at Rockville HS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Convictions in rape cases are rare, it's sad but true, even involving kids. The defense is always consent. When there is a conviction it is often due to a plea bargain to a misdemeanor, look up the stats yourself.

Re who is paying his lawyer, it is a valid question and it IS likely to be a Soros funded group.

The STATE prosecutes crimes, the girl is a witness possibly. There is no role for her to hire a lawyer in those proceedings.

Sometimes an accused rapist sues a victim in a civil action, or vice versa. In a civil action she could use a lawyer.

Case was just mentioned on NPR, briefly.

I agree that I think this case will result in a plea bargain. I think once this attorney sees all the evidence collected, it will be difficult to go to trial with a consent argument.
But, I don’t think the state will go for a plea on a misdemeanor. From what I have read, this was brutal. These two worthless men need to do some time in prison, then be quickly swept out of the country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it verified that the attorney is working pro-bono? I know of at least one advocacy group with $7M in income and I'm sure their are others.

No. The attorney, last night on Carlson, would not talk specifics about payment. He only said he had been retained by the family and specifically mentioned the father hired him. Would not talk about pay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it verified that the attorney is working pro-bono? I know of at least one advocacy group with $7M in income and I'm sure their are others.

No. The attorney, last night on Carlson, would not talk specifics about payment. He only said he had been retained by the family and specifically mentioned the father hired him. Would not talk about pay.

I bet it's something shady. What does he have to hide?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Convictions in rape cases are rare, it's sad but true, even involving kids. The defense is always consent. When there is a conviction it is often due to a plea bargain to a misdemeanor, look up the stats yourself.

Re who is paying his lawyer, it is a valid question and it IS likely to be a Soros funded group.

The STATE prosecutes crimes, the girl is a witness possibly. There is no role for her to hire a lawyer in those proceedings.

Sometimes an accused rapist sues a victim in a civil action, or vice versa. In a civil action she could use a lawyer.

Case was just mentioned on NPR, briefly.

Thank you for the info. Hope the State has a good lawyer!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it verified that the attorney is working pro-bono? I know of at least one advocacy group with $7M in income and I'm sure their are others.

No. The attorney, last night on Carlson, would not talk specifics about payment. He only said he had been retained by the family and specifically mentioned the father hired him. Would not talk about pay.

I bet it's something shady. What does he have to hide?

I don't think they have to disclose who pays. Right? Why is it a question?

[Anonymous]

The school let in an 18 year old boy as a FRESHMAN? WTH. That is and of itself it a huge mistake.

Is anyone talking about how that should NOT be allowed, regardless of the citizen status?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On WMAL, the lawyer said that in order to charge statutory rape in MD, there has to be a 4 year difference between the age of the two involved.
Then, he said that is why the state did not charge with statutory rape.

No, they charged him with rape. They didn’t charge with statutory rape because there was no consent.

Maybe they can now work in proving that this man was not 18. My guess is that he was older.

Who has the girl hired as an attorney?? Can she afford one?

How about someone step up to do her case pro bono. I posted before. Set up a GoGundMe. You'd get tons of support for her in the Rockville Clister (at the very least).

Of course, much different for her as the rape victim. But the attacker has lawyered up with the best.

The States Attorney is the girls attorney.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The school let in an 18 year old boy as a FRESHMAN? WTH. That is and of itself it a huge mistake.

Is anyone talking about how that should NOT be allowed, regardless of the citizen status?

For the twentieth time what is the alternative? The courts have said that the school has to admit him. His limited schooling prevents him from being placed with with other 18 year olds. Would you prefer him take Pre-cal or American Literature with a second grade education and not even being literate in his own language?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it verified that the attorney is working pro-bono? I know of at least one advocacy group with $7M in income and I'm sure their are others.

No. The attorney, last night on Carlson, would not talk specifics about payment. He only said he had been retained by the family and specifically mentioned the father hired him. Would not talk about pay.

I bet it's something shady. What does he have to hide?

I hope the money is not from some program paid by taxpayers money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The school let in an 18 year old boy as a FRESHMAN? WTH. That is and of itself it a huge mistake.

Is anyone talking about how that should NOT be allowed, regardless of the citizen status?

For the twentieth time what is the alternative? The courts have said that the school has to admit him. His limited schooling prevents him from being placed with with other 18 year olds. Would you prefer him take Pre-cal or American Literature with a second grade education and not even being literate in his own language?

Fine, educate him as the law requires, but please do it in a different facility or at night achool. If you're 18 and you have a major gap in education and don't speak English, a regular high school is not the place to be in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The school let in an 18 year old boy as a FRESHMAN? WTH. That is and of itself it a huge mistake.

Is anyone talking about how that should NOT be allowed, regardless of the citizen status?

For the twentieth time what is the alternative? The courts have said that the school has to admit him. His limited schooling prevents him from being placed with with other 18 year olds. Would you prefer him take Pre-cal or American Literature with a second grade education and not even being literate in his own language?

I really don't think putting over aged students with peers much younger than them can do any good to either parts. Just imagine yourself in a high school filled with kids far more younger than you. You know you should not be there. People need to hang out with people of their own age. This may be a reason that many such students only come to school for meals and never appear at class and other school activities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The school let in an 18 year old boy as a FRESHMAN? WTH. That is and of itself it a huge mistake.

Is anyone talking about how that should NOT be allowed, regardless of the citizen status?

For the twentieth time what is the alternative? The courts have said that the school has to admit him. His limited schooling prevents him from being placed with with other 18 year olds. Would you prefer him take Pre-cal or American Literature with a second grade education and not even being literate in his own language?

I really don't think putting over aged students with peers much younger than them can do any good to either parts. Just imagine yourself in a high school filled with kids far more younger than you. You know you should not be there. People need to hang out with people of their own age. This may be a reason that many such students only come to school for meals and never appear at class and other school activities.

I certainly would be embarrassed to as an 18 year old to be in a class with 14 year olds. I was uncomfortable even senior year when I took an elective class full of juniors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Convictions in rape cases are rare, it's sad but true, even involving kids. The defense is always consent. When there is a conviction it is often due to a plea bargain to a misdemeanor, look up the stats yourself.

Re who is paying his lawyer, it is a valid question and it IS likely to be a Soros funded group.

The STATE prosecutes crimes, the girl is a witness possibly. There is no role for her to hire a lawyer in those proceedings.

Sometimes an accused rapist sues a victim in a civil action, or vice versa. In a civil action she could use a lawyer.

Case was just mentioned on NPR, briefly.

I agree that I think this case will result in a plea bargain. I think once this attorney sees all the evidence collected, it will be difficult to go to trial with a consent argument.
But, I don’t think the state will go for a plea on a misdemeanor. From what I have read, this was brutal. These two worthless men need to do some time in prison, then be quickly swept out of the country.

Its pretty much guaranteed that the 18 year old will be deported plea or no plea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the posters that mentioned and linked other news stories about rapes at US schools:

It's an ugly picture.

Alief middle school, TX. 2016. 3 boys rape a 7th grader, a fourth takes video of it. The actual ages of all involved are not released.
This is a school that is 62% Hispanic, less than 1% White. 85% free lunch, free lunch is income under $15K!
And on further research, the area is a magnet for ex convicts, due to housing policy.

You libs should try to imagine your kid having to attend a school like that.

What say you?

I posted a link about 3 or was it 4 white HS boys in ID I think who raped a mentally disabled black boy with a clothes hanger. As a minority or a parent of a SN child, try imagining your kids going to school with these white kids.

And what makes you think some liberals don't have kids who go to schools with this kind of ses/racial makeup?

This case did receive national attention, don't know how you missed it. He was an adopted special needs kid and the situation was horrific. His attackers were arrested and dealt with. Not sure why you keep bringing it up?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The school let in an 18 year old boy as a FRESHMAN? WTH. That is and of itself it a huge mistake.

Is anyone talking about how that should NOT be allowed, regardless of the citizen status?

For the twentieth time what is the alternative? The courts have said that the school has to admit him. His limited schooling prevents him from being placed with with other 18 year olds. Would you prefer him take Pre-cal or American Literature with a second grade education and not even being literate in his own language?

Fine, educate him as the law requires, but please do it in a different facility or at night achool. If you're 18 and you have a major gap in education and don't speak English, a regular high school is not the place to be in.

+1. Any 18 year old that is not able to enroll at the junior level should immediately be placed in an evening classes METS and/or GED track. The only exceptions (such as special needs) would require special board approval. These adult students could get a job during the daytime. This is not just about getting them away from younger students, this would actually be much healthier for them. What emotionally mature 20 year old would really WANT to still be walking the halls of a high school, raising hand to ask for permission to use the bathroom, basically continue being treated like a child?? I am guessing they want to WORK and get on with their lives and make progress toward a better life. Evening classes, free of charge, would allow them to do just that. If they qualify for FARMS they could have a voucher from MCPS to pick up some daily breakfast or lunch items at their evening program. They would lose nothing, only gain.