When are Herndon Middle and Herndon High going to get a break?!??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having kids ride a bus to school that has contiguous boundaries is transportation.

Busing is shifting kids around to even out demographics. PP wants to put poor kids on a bus and send them past other high schools in order to even out demographics.


Busing does not work.
I know that from experience.

The Langley boundaries are gerrymandered and students west of Springvale are closer to Herndon, Westfield, South Lakes, Oakton, Chantilly, Madison, McLean and Marshall than they are to Langley.

That is busing - to perpetuate economic segregation.

School board states proximity is not a factor

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

There is absolutely nothing that requires Langley’s boundaries to extend all the way to the Loudoun border when the school is about two miles from Arlington. Only the unrestrained exercise of economic privilege led to that result.

????So, you think the kids should come from Arlington? Mount Vernon? Where do you think Langley kids should come from?

I am guessing the Langley was built to relieve overcrowding in McLean--but, I don't know. That's usually the way it works.

Well for starters, there are some apartment complexes (with 3 and 4 families per apartment) in Herndon that we can send over to Langley. That will more than solve the under enrollment problem. And it will free up some space in Herndon to accommodate increased immigrant populations as well as room to take some kids from Carson. You know, the kids who go to Carson that actually LIVE in HERNDON?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having kids ride a bus to school that has contiguous boundaries is transportation.

Busing is shifting kids around to even out demographics. PP wants to put poor kids on a bus and send them past other high schools in order to even out demographics.


Busing does not work.
I know that from experience.

The Langley boundaries are gerrymandered and students west of Springvale are closer to Herndon, Westfield, South Lakes, Oakton, Chantilly, Madison, McLean and Marshall than they are to Langley.

That is busing - to perpetuate economic segregation.

I am not familiar enough with Great Falls to understand the neighborhoods. I do understand, though, that most of the schools you listed are overcrowded and that the boundaries now are contiguous and that those kids attend Forestville (I think).

I am, however, familiar with traffic in western Fairfax and realize that your suggestion that they are "closer" to Westfield or Chantilly is mistaken. You do understand that major arteries and traffic are also issues?

I think I"m done here. Suggesting that it would be better for these kids to go to Westfield is a step too far. Suggest you drive on 28 some morning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having kids ride a bus to school that has contiguous boundaries is transportation.

Busing is shifting kids around to even out demographics. PP wants to put poor kids on a bus and send them past other high schools in order to even out demographics.


Busing does not work.
I know that from experience.

The Langley boundaries are gerrymandered and students west of Springvale are closer to Herndon, Westfield, South Lakes, Oakton, Chantilly, Madison, McLean and Marshall than they are to Langley.

That is busing - to perpetuate economic segregation.

School board states proximity is not a factor [/quote]

No, it does not state that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having kids ride a bus to school that has contiguous boundaries is transportation.

Busing is shifting kids around to even out demographics. PP wants to put poor kids on a bus and send them past other high schools in order to even out demographics.


Busing does not work.
I know that from experience.

The Langley boundaries are gerrymandered and students west of Springvale are closer to Herndon, Westfield, South Lakes, Oakton, Chantilly, Madison, McLean and Marshall than they are to Langley.

That is busing - to perpetuate economic segregation.

School board states proximity is not a factor

Liar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There is absolutely nothing that requires Langley’s boundaries to extend all the way to the Loudoun border when the school is about two miles from Arlington. Only the unrestrained exercise of economic privilege led to that result.

????So, you think the kids should come from Arlington? Mount Vernon? Where do you think Langley kids should come from?

I am guessing the Langley was built to relieve overcrowding in McLean--but, I don't know. That's usually the way it works.

Well for starters, there are some apartment complexes (with 3 and 4 families per apartment) in Herndon that we can send over to Langley. That will more than solve the under enrollment problem. And it will free up some space in Herndon to accommodate increased immigrant populations as well as room to take some kids from Carson. You know, the kids who go to Carson that actually LIVE in HERNDON?

Isn’t living four families to apartments against zoning law

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having kids ride a bus to school that has contiguous boundaries is transportation.

Busing is shifting kids around to even out demographics. PP wants to put poor kids on a bus and send them past other high schools in order to even out demographics.


Busing does not work.
I know that from experience.

The Langley boundaries are gerrymandered and students west of Springvale are closer to Herndon, Westfield, South Lakes, Oakton, Chantilly, Madison, McLean and Marshall than they are to Langley.

That is busing - to perpetuate economic segregation.

I am not familiar enough with Great Falls to understand the neighborhoods. I do understand, though, that most of the schools you listed are overcrowded and that the boundaries now are contiguous and that those kids attend Forestville (I think).

I am, however, familiar with traffic in western Fairfax and realize that your suggestion that they are "closer" to Westfield or Chantilly is mistaken. You do understand that major arteries and traffic are also issues?

I think I"m done here. Suggesting that it would be better for these kids to go to Westfield is a step too far. Suggest you drive on 28 some morning.

You should have been done a long time ago. You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, whether it’s policy, traffic, or School Board regulations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having kids ride a bus to school that has contiguous boundaries is transportation.

Busing is shifting kids around to even out demographics. PP wants to put poor kids on a bus and send them past other high schools in order to even out demographics.


Busing does not work.
I know that from experience.

The Langley boundaries are gerrymandered and students west of Springvale are closer to Herndon, Westfield, South Lakes, Oakton, Chantilly, Madison, McLean and Marshall than they are to Langley.

That is busing - to perpetuate economic segregation.

School board states proximity is not a factor [/quote]

No, it does not state that.

Jane Strauss said it. I have her on a recording stating just that

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having kids ride a bus to school that has contiguous boundaries is transportation.

Busing is shifting kids around to even out demographics. PP wants to put poor kids on a bus and send them past other high schools in order to even out demographics.


Busing does not work.
I know that from experience.

The Langley boundaries are gerrymandered and students west of Springvale are closer to Herndon, Westfield, South Lakes, Oakton, Chantilly, Madison, McLean and Marshall than they are to Langley.

That is busing - to perpetuate economic segregation.

School board states proximity is not a factor

Liar.

I have Strauss on tape stating exactly that

[Anonymous]

You should have been done a long time ago. You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, whether it’s policy, traffic, or School Board regulations.

Quite wrong. I've been through these things before. I don't think you have.

I've also taught in a school that was bused--many, many years ago. It did not work then and it won't work now.

[Anonymous]

The idea of “bussing causing issues” is a moot point in this argument so just stop. The rich, white kids from Great Falls AND Reston AND even Herndon are being bussed over one hour during rush hour past 495 to go to Langley. Come on people. Open your bigoted eyes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The idea of “bussing causing issues” is a moot point in this argument so just stop. The rich, white kids from Great Falls AND Reston AND even Herndon are being bussed over one hour during rush hour past 495 to go to Langley. Come on people. Open your bigoted eyes.

YES!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The idea of “bussing causing issues” is a moot point in this argument so just stop. The rich, white kids from Great Falls AND Reston AND even Herndon are being bussed over one hour during rush hour past 495 to go to Langley. Come on people. Open your bigoted eyes.

YES!

LOL.......

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The idea of “bussing causing issues” is a moot point in this argument so just stop. The rich, white kids from Great Falls AND Reston AND even Herndon are being bussed over one hour during rush hour past 495 to go to Langley. Come on people. Open your bigoted eyes.

YES!

YES! YESSSSS!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What other schools with 40% low-income share a boundary with a 1.5% low-income school?

Better to have two 20% FARMS schools, but the Langley parents are having an aneurysm about even raising the idea.

It doesn't work that way. You'd be busing kids all over FCPS and still not achieve that. Busing does not work.

My high school's demographics are nothing like Langley. It is much closer to Herndon poverty wise. I don't live in a neighborhood with houses that cost like Langley.

PP, it is just a factor of location. Langley is on the edge of FCPS--it can only draw pretty much from one direction. It is close to the Potomac and is bordered by Arlington.

The purpose of a school is to educate the students. Proximity is the driving factor. Get over it. There is no other school in FCPS that has that type of income--except, maybe TJ.

It is unrealistic to think that FCPS can make every school have the same demographics.

You do realize Langley is currently busing in kids from16+ miles away right?

PP thinks busing only means putting kids on buses when demographic balance is a consideration. Putting rich kids on buses for 16 miles to attend a wealthy school is just the natural state of affairs. It’s “proximity” to the nearest school with no poor kids.

It’s time to eradicate that kind of clueless entitlement.

This.