Reported hazing incident involving Damascus High School JV Football team

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Anonymous wrote:There was no rape at Rockville
There was a rape at RM and the rapist did not go to jail.

Vote out all judges and and the states attorney needs to go.

What are you talking about?
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/richard-montgomery-high-security-chief-sentenced-to-18-months-for-sexual-abuse-of-student/

20 years, all suspended except 18 f'ing months... time served. That means he did not go to jail.

There is nothing in that article about how much time he had served pre-trial and it is very uncommon for someone to serve 18 mos before pleading guilty. He absolutely did go to jail - for 18 mos if not more (it is actually fairly common for defendants to waive credit for time served in exchange for the 18 mos sentence which keeps them in the Montgomery County jail)

He was let out onbond. He raped again and then bond was revoked so he was in jail until trial.

He was given time served.

Either way 18 months is a pathetic sentence. The St. E's rapist was given 3 years and MD has ridiculously low guidelines for jail time for rape.

I agree, but I don't blame MCPS for that -- that's the court system.

What I do blame MCPS for is not doing a background check in the first place. He got in trouble when he was in NYC for assaulting a stripper -- he was arrested but not convicted. It was in the New York Times. This apparently didn't come up in his MCPS background check. They are so incompetent they didn't even Google his name.

It is still Montgomery county govt. it's pathetic.

Mcps knew the security guard was grooming kids and he was warned. WTF is that. Inappropriate contact = lose your job.

Yes, if you are arrested for assault and you did not get it expunged, it's a red flag. this is not just a job, it's s job that protects children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There was no rape at Rockville
There was a rape at RM and the rapist did not go to jail.

Vote out all judges and and the states attorney needs to go.

What are you talking about?
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/richard-montgomery-high-security-chief-sentenced-to-18-months-for-sexual-abuse-of-student/

20 years, all suspended except 18 f'ing months... time served. That means he did not go to jail.

There is nothing in that article about how much time he had served pre-trial and it is very uncommon for someone to serve 18 mos before pleading guilty. He absolutely did go to jail - for 18 mos if not more (it is actually fairly common for defendants to waive credit for time served in exchange for the 18 mos sentence which keeps them in the Montgomery County jail)

He was let out onbond. He raped again and then bond was revoked so he was in jail until trial.

He was given time served.

Either way 18 months is a pathetic sentence. The St. E's rapist was given 3 years and MD has ridiculously low guidelines for jail time for rape.

I agree, but I don't blame MCPS for that -- that's the court system.

What I do blame MCPS for is not doing a background check in the first place. He got in trouble when he was in NYC for assaulting a stripper -- he was arrested but not convicted. It was in the New York Times. This apparently didn't come up in his MCPS background check. They are so incompetent they didn't even Google his name.

It is still Montgomery county govt. it's pathetic.

Mcps knew the security guard was grooming kids and he was warned. WTF is that. Inappropriate contact = lose your job.

Yes, if you are arrested for assault and you did not get it expunged, it's a red flag. this is not just a job, it's s job that protects children.

How do you know he was warned?

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Anonymous wrote:The ring leader was expelled from Clarksburg.

If he was expelled from one pubic high school, then why was he at another public high school? What was the offense he was expelled for at Clarksburg?

Not that poster. But I do know of one situation where a Wootton student was expelled for drugs and he transferred to Clarksburg. So they are school hopping for some reason.

sheinbein was expelled from wootton and sent to Kennedy,

Wow. I did not know this was occurring. I thought when a student is expelled, he/she is expelled from all MCPS schools. There are alternative programs or home services to educate a child in those cases. These programs might be more expensive than the traditional school setting. How is passing the trash from one school to another protecting students from violence?

Where I went to school, if a student was expelled they could not attend another school in the district. They had to go to an alternative school or another city. They were banned. Why does MCPS let expelled students transfer to another school in the same district? What was the point of expelling them if they can just go to another school? MCPS continues to look bad.

Have you read the MCPS Student Code of Conduct. It is difficult to "expel" a student for good. Usually it is for 45 days in Blair Ewing and then they are back or sent to another MCPS school. Many principals' hands are tied when it comes down to suspensions/expulsions. Many students are recommended for 10 days suspension and recommendation for expulsion, but unless there was prior interventions in place, the student returns to the school.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/students/rights/1182%2018_2018_2019_STUDENT_Code%20of%20Conduct_WEB.pd

This! It is pretty much impossible to 'expel' a student. We have had a kid assault several other kids at our school, but he has not been expelled.

MCPS is required to educate ALL kids, like it or not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There was no rape at Rockville
There was a rape at RM and the rapist did not go to jail.

Vote out all judges and and the states attorney needs to go.

What are you talking about?
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/richard-montgomery-high-security-chief-sentenced-to-18-months-for-sexual-abuse-of-student/

20 years, all suspended except 18 f'ing months... time served. That means he did not go to jail.

There is nothing in that article about how much time he had served pre-trial and it is very uncommon for someone to serve 18 mos before pleading guilty. He absolutely did go to jail - for 18 mos if not more (it is actually fairly common for defendants to waive credit for time served in exchange for the 18 mos sentence which keeps them in the Montgomery County jail)

He was let out onbond. He raped again and then bond was revoked so he was in jail until trial.

He was given time served.

Either way 18 months is a pathetic sentence. The St. E's rapist was given 3 years and MD has ridiculously low guidelines for jail time for rape.

I agree, but I don't blame MCPS for that -- that's the court system.

What I do blame MCPS for is not doing a background check in the first place. He got in trouble when he was in NYC for assaulting a stripper -- he was arrested but not convicted. It was in the New York Times. This apparently didn't come up in his MCPS background check. They are so incompetent they didn't even Google his name.

Refusing to hire someone based on an arrest alone is a really problematic thing to do. Some states have even banned it in recognition that many innocent people - particularly minorities - are blocked from getting jobs unjustly. Let's not forget there is a huge difference between an arrest and a conviction.

Fine for certain jobs. Not fine for any job that comes into contact with kids. They hired this guy to be a Security Leader at the school, even though he had been arrested. That's not an issue for you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was no rape at Rockville
There was a rape at RM and the rapist did not go to jail.

Vote out all judges and and the states attorney needs to go.

What are you talking about?
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/richard-montgomery-high-security-chief-sentenced-to-18-months-for-sexual-abuse-of-student/

20 years, all suspended except 18 f'ing months... time served. That means he did not go to jail.

There is nothing in that article about how much time he had served pre-trial and it is very uncommon for someone to serve 18 mos before pleading guilty. He absolutely did go to jail - for 18 mos if not more (it is actually fairly common for defendants to waive credit for time served in exchange for the 18 mos sentence which keeps them in the Montgomery County jail)

He was let out onbond. He raped again and then bond was revoked so he was in jail until trial.

He was given time served.

Either way 18 months is a pathetic sentence. The St. E's rapist was given 3 years and MD has ridiculously low guidelines for jail time for rape.

I agree, but I don't blame MCPS for that -- that's the court system.

What I do blame MCPS for is not doing a background check in the first place. He got in trouble when he was in NYC for assaulting a stripper -- he was arrested but not convicted. It was in the New York Times. This apparently didn't come up in his MCPS background check. They are so incompetent they didn't even Google his name.

It is still Montgomery county govt. it's pathetic.

Mcps knew the security guard was grooming kids and he was warned. WTF is that. Inappropriate contact = lose your job.

Yes, if you are arrested for assault and you did not get it expunged, it's a red flag. this is not just a job, it's s job that protects children.

There are current employees that have been caught grooming kids but were given progressive discipline. They are still in contact with students today despite retraining and subsequent egregious violations of the MCPS Employee Code of Conduct. MCPS is waiting for sex offense arrests before they remove these employees. Dr. Smith is no better than his predecessors.

When the arrests do happen, Dr. Smith will write a letter of how he is disgusted by the individual and act like MCPS had no idea the individual was a child predator. Someone needs to do a little digging in employment records of MCPS employees convicted of sexual crimes to see how often they were progressively disciplined before the arrest took place.

If MCPS would enforce the MCPS Employee Code of Conduct and fire employees who repeatedly violates provisions written for child safety, then many children would be spared from the trauma of abuse. The same applies for enforcing the MCPS Student Code of Conduct. Problematic students with a history of violence should not be shuffled from school to school.

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Anonymous wrote:Charged as juveniles ... must be white

I am confused. What does that mean?

Means nothing. The assailants were not even actually white. Not that it matters, IMO.

Is race immaterial? Should not race be immaterial for everything? Are they Asians by any chance?

Yes it’s immaterial. This really has nothing to do with race. Sexual abuse happens in EVERY color. Every race. And there needs to be stronger punishments implemented for whatever race the assailants are.

Black males teens are charged as adults and white make teens are charged as juveniles.

Not in this case.

I heard the rapists were not white

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was no rape at Rockville
There was a rape at RM and the rapist did not go to jail.

Vote out all judges and and the states attorney needs to go.

What are you talking about?
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/richard-montgomery-high-security-chief-sentenced-to-18-months-for-sexual-abuse-of-student/

20 years, all suspended except 18 f'ing months... time served. That means he did not go to jail.

There is nothing in that article about how much time he had served pre-trial and it is very uncommon for someone to serve 18 mos before pleading guilty. He absolutely did go to jail - for 18 mos if not more (it is actually fairly common for defendants to waive credit for time served in exchange for the 18 mos sentence which keeps them in the Montgomery County jail)

He was let out onbond. He raped again and then bond was revoked so he was in jail until trial.

He was given time served.

Either way 18 months is a pathetic sentence. The St. E's rapist was given 3 years and MD has ridiculously low guidelines for jail time for rape.

I agree, but I don't blame MCPS for that -- that's the court system.

What I do blame MCPS for is not doing a background check in the first place. He got in trouble when he was in NYC for assaulting a stripper -- he was arrested but not convicted. It was in the New York Times. This apparently didn't come up in his MCPS background check. They are so incompetent they didn't even Google his name.

Refusing to hire someone based on an arrest alone is a really problematic thing to do. Some states have even banned it in recognition that many innocent people - particularly minorities - are blocked from getting jobs unjustly. Let's not forget there is a huge difference between an arrest and a conviction.

Fine for certain jobs. Not fine for any job that comes into contact with kids. They hired this guy to be a Security Leader at the school, even though he had been arrested. That's not an issue for you?

In and of itself, no. An arrest is essentially meaningless. Why was he not convicted? There are any number of reasons someone could be arrested and yet completely innocent of the charges. Many cases aren't even remotely pursued by prosecutors because there is no evidence to support the charges.

You would really ok with your family member being denied employment for an arrest, even if it was shortly thereafter shown to be erroneous?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was no rape at Rockville
There was a rape at RM and the rapist did not go to jail.

Vote out all judges and and the states attorney needs to go.

What are you talking about?
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/richard-montgomery-high-security-chief-sentenced-to-18-months-for-sexual-abuse-of-student/

20 years, all suspended except 18 f'ing months... time served. That means he did not go to jail.

There is nothing in that article about how much time he had served pre-trial and it is very uncommon for someone to serve 18 mos before pleading guilty. He absolutely did go to jail - for 18 mos if not more (it is actually fairly common for defendants to waive credit for time served in exchange for the 18 mos sentence which keeps them in the Montgomery County jail)

He was let out onbond. He raped again and then bond was revoked so he was in jail until trial.

He was given time served.

Either way 18 months is a pathetic sentence. The St. E's rapist was given 3 years and MD has ridiculously low guidelines for jail time for rape.

I agree, but I don't blame MCPS for that -- that's the court system.

What I do blame MCPS for is not doing a background check in the first place. He got in trouble when he was in NYC for assaulting a stripper -- he was arrested but not convicted. It was in the New York Times. This apparently didn't come up in his MCPS background check. They are so incompetent they didn't even Google his name.

It is still Montgomery county govt. it's pathetic.

Mcps knew the security guard was grooming kids and he was warned. WTF is that. Inappropriate contact = lose your job.

Yes, if you are arrested for assault and you did not get it expunged, it's a red flag. this is not just a job, it's s job that protects children.

There are current employees that have been caught grooming kids but were given progressive discipline. They are still in contact with students today despite retraining and subsequent egregious violations of the MCPS Employee Code of Conduct. MCPS is waiting for sex offense arrests before they remove these employees. Dr. Smith is no better than his predecessors.

When the arrests do happen, Dr. Smith will write a letter of how he is disgusted by the individual and act like MCPS had no idea the individual was a child predator. Someone needs to do a little digging in employment records of MCPS employees convicted of sexual crimes to see how often they were progressively disciplined before the arrest took place.

If MCPS would enforce the MCPS Employee Code of Conduct and fire employees who repeatedly violates provisions written for child safety, then many children would be spared from the trauma of abuse. The same applies for enforcing the MCPS Student Code of Conduct. Problematic students with a history of violence should not be shuffled from school to school.

+1,000,000

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read the whole thread but sexual assault or rape are not “hazing” and it’s rodiculous for the press to call it that.

MCPS is using the legal definition of hazing in which sexual assault can be the specific type of hazing. MCPS athletics falls under the MPSSAA and the NFHS organizations for high school athletics. The NFHS defines hazing as any humiliating or dangerous activity expected of a student to belong to a group, regardless of his or her willingness to participate.

http://www.nfhs.org/articles/hazing-bullying-prevention-collaborative-effort-for-schools-communities/

Just read Dr. Smith's letter and have to agree it falls short. Parents need to hear a voice of utter condemnation of this type of behavior. And some action steps. So many cries for help in the last few months and then... this. They need to do some housecleaning to say the least.

+1 Start with Jeff Sullivan the MCPS Systems Wide Athletic Director. He has ignored serious problems including keeping bad coaches and athletic directors in place who promote bad behavior within teams. He is invisible when a problem is reported at a school. The move on to the bad coaches and bad school athletic directors who create an atmosphere where abuse is known to occur.

+50 This is absolutely the case for many of the AD"s and Coaches. The AD's excuse poor behavior as "a coaching style"

Please report the athletic director along with the coach in writing to your school principal and cc the school director. If you are afraid of repercussions, please contact the MCCPTA Health and Safety Committee and they can help keep your anonymity. You can also report on the Safe Schools MD Anonymous Tip Line 833-MD-B-SAFE or download the free app to your phone: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/mainstory/story/610966/Safe-Schools-MD/

The only way change will happen is for all[b] students and parents to report problems when they know there is a problem. If you reported to MCPS and nothing happened, contact the MCCPTA so they can help followup and find out where the ball was dropped. Also, there has been great turnover at many of the schools so if you have a new principal or a new director, please resend your original email or contact them with details as follow up. They might not know of a past offense that was previously reported and they might be inclined to do something.

Everyone needs to keep this tipline handy in your directory. Make sure your also have this number.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read the whole thread but sexual assault or rape are not “hazing” and it’s rodiculous for the press to call it that.

MCPS is using the legal definition of hazing in which sexual assault can be the specific type of hazing. MCPS athletics falls under the MPSSAA and the NFHS organizations for high school athletics. The NFHS defines hazing as any humiliating or dangerous activity expected of a student to belong to a group, regardless of his or her willingness to participate.

http://www.nfhs.org/articles/hazing-bullying-prevention-collaborative-effort-for-schools-communities/

Just read Dr. Smith's letter and have to agree it falls short. Parents need to hear a voice of utter condemnation of this type of behavior. And some action steps. So many cries for help in the last few months and then... this. They need to do some housecleaning to say the least.

+1 Start with Jeff Sullivan the MCPS Systems Wide Athletic Director. He has ignored serious problems including keeping bad coaches and athletic directors in place who promote bad behavior within teams. He is invisible when a problem is reported at a school. The move on to the bad coaches and bad school athletic directors who create an atmosphere where abuse is known to occur.

+50 This is absolutely the case for many of the AD"s and Coaches. The AD's excuse poor behavior as "a coaching style"

Please report the athletic director along with the coach in writing to your school principal and cc the school director. If you are afraid of repercussions, please contact the MCCPTA Health and Safety Committee and they can help keep your anonymity. You can also report on the Safe Schools MD Anonymous Tip Line 833-MD-B-SAFE or download the free app to your phone: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/mainstory/story/610966/Safe-Schools-MD/

The only way change will happen is for all[b] students and parents to report problems when they know there is a problem. If you reported to MCPS and nothing happened, contact the MCCPTA so they can help followup and find out where the ball was dropped. Also, there has been great turnover at many of the schools so if you have a new principal or a new director, please resend your original email or contact them with details as follow up. They might not know of a past offense that was previously reported and they might be inclined to do something.

Everyone needs to keep this tipline handy in your directory. Make sure your also have this number.

*your kids

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MOCO parents keep letting this shit happen.
Organize and FIGHT this crap.
Make it your #1 concern.
Nothing else is more important.

I agree. I think there are just SO many issues with MCPS (curriculum issues, overcrowding, sex abuse) that it’s tough for parents to know how to implement change. Such a dysfunctional system.

For parents that have concerns and want to have a voice, please contact the MCCPTA Health & Safety committee: http://www.mccpta.org/mental-health-and-wellness.html

Gillian Huebner is the Climate & Safety Subcommittee chair.

Thank you!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There was no rape at Rockville
There was a rape at RM and the rapist did not go to jail.

Vote out all judges and and the states attorney needs to go.

What are you talking about?
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/richard-montgomery-high-security-chief-sentenced-to-18-months-for-sexual-abuse-of-student/

20 years, all suspended except 18 f'ing months... time served. That means he did not go to jail.

There is nothing in that article about how much time he had served pre-trial and it is very uncommon for someone to serve 18 mos before pleading guilty. He absolutely did go to jail - for 18 mos if not more (it is actually fairly common for defendants to waive credit for time served in exchange for the 18 mos sentence which keeps them in the Montgomery County jail)

He was let out onbond. He raped again and then bond was revoked so he was in jail until trial.

He was given time served.

Either way 18 months is a pathetic sentence. The St. E's rapist was given 3 years and MD has ridiculously low guidelines for jail time for rape.

I agree, but I don't blame MCPS for that -- that's the court system.

What I do blame MCPS for is not doing a background check in the first place. He got in trouble when he was in NYC for assaulting a stripper -- he was arrested but not convicted. It was in the New York Times. This apparently didn't come up in his MCPS background check. They are so incompetent they didn't even Google his name.

It is still Montgomery county govt. it's pathetic.

Mcps knew the security guard was grooming kids and he was warned. WTF is that. Inappropriate contact = lose your job.

Yes, if you are arrested for assault and you did not get it expunged, it's a red flag. this is not just a job, it's s job that protects children.

How do you know he was warned?

"The top security official at a Maryland high school was warned several times in writing about inappropriate contact with a student but was kept in his position and ultimately charged with sexually abusing the 17-year-old, according to details that emerged in court."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/maryland-school-security-chief-was-warned-about-inappropriate-conduct-but-kept-in-post/2017/09/24/e794343c-9e2c-11e7-9083-fbfddf6804c2_story.html?utm_term=.a0f57d3be450

I assume he's a member of a union and they fought to protect him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was no rape at Rockville
There was a rape at RM and the rapist did not go to jail.

Vote out all judges and and the states attorney needs to go.

What are you talking about?
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/richard-montgomery-high-security-chief-sentenced-to-18-months-for-sexual-abuse-of-student/

20 years, all suspended except 18 f'ing months... time served. That means he did not go to jail.

There is nothing in that article about how much time he had served pre-trial and it is very uncommon for someone to serve 18 mos before pleading guilty. He absolutely did go to jail - for 18 mos if not more (it is actually fairly common for defendants to waive credit for time served in exchange for the 18 mos sentence which keeps them in the Montgomery County jail)

He was let out onbond. He raped again and then bond was revoked so he was in jail until trial.

He was given time served.

Either way 18 months is a pathetic sentence. The St. E's rapist was given 3 years and MD has ridiculously low guidelines for jail time for rape.

I agree, but I don't blame MCPS for that -- that's the court system.

What I do blame MCPS for is not doing a background check in the first place. He got in trouble when he was in NYC for assaulting a stripper -- he was arrested but not convicted. It was in the New York Times. This apparently didn't come up in his MCPS background check. They are so incompetent they didn't even Google his name.

Refusing to hire someone based on an arrest alone is a really problematic thing to do. Some states have even banned it in recognition that many innocent people - particularly minorities - are blocked from getting jobs unjustly. Let's not forget there is a huge difference between an arrest and a conviction.

Fine for certain jobs. Not fine for any job that comes into contact with kids. They hired this guy to be a Security Leader at the school, even though he had been arrested. That's not an issue for you?

In and of itself, no. An arrest is essentially meaningless. Why was he not convicted? There are any number of reasons someone could be arrested and yet completely innocent of the charges. Many cases aren't even remotely pursued by prosecutors because there is no evidence to support the charges.

You would really ok with your family member being denied employment for an arrest, even if it was shortly thereafter shown to be erroneous?

Looks like it was a misdemeanor:

"Officer Mark Yantsos, 34, is accused of using his revolver to menace a 30-year-old female employee of the Happy Go Lucky Bar at 679 Flatbush Avenue, whom the authorities said he was trying to pick up. The charge against Officer Yantsos, a seven-year veteran assigned to police applicant investigations, is a misdemeanor."

https://www.nytimes.com/1994/03/15/nyregion/police-sergeant-is-arrested-in-a-beating-at-a-store.html

So this shoiuldnt' prevent him from getting a job working in retail or as a cook at a restaurant, but this should be disqualifying to work in a position of authority around children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pat O'Neill has done more for kids in this county than you ever will, and in a good way. As for being a bully, your imagination is running away from reality.

This was a heinous act. And, they are kids. It is not up to MCPS what happens to these kids, it is up to the MoCo police and justice system. It is not up to anyone here to be judge and jury. Recall the Rockville HS case, which when the FACTS came out, it turned out NOT to be rape (not saying this is the case here, just that we do not know all the facts)

The Board is absolutely at fault in the Rockville case, for being silent.

Whether it was rape or consensual, it showed that the security set-up at the high school was such that it was possible this could happen. Parents were rightfully concerned about the security at their own child's schools. A good Board would have at least not remained silent on the general security situation at MCPS. Maybe they could have said they're reviewing security at all MCPS schools, or putting in new policies or whatever. Instead, they said nothing. That's incompetence.

Those weren’t the facts, dearie - either someone paid off that family to be quiet or they threatened them. But ‘facts’? No. Don’t be stupid. It was going to be national news forever - and now it’s not. All gone!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pat O'Neill has done more for kids in this county than you ever will, and in a good way. As for being a bully, your imagination is running away from reality.

This was a heinous act. And, they are kids. It is not up to MCPS what happens to these kids, it is up to the MoCo police and justice system. It is not up to anyone here to be judge and jury. Recall the Rockville HS case, which when the FACTS came out, it turned out NOT to be rape (not saying this is the case here, just that we do not know all the facts)

The Board is absolutely at fault in the Rockville case, for being silent.

Whether it was rape or consensual, it showed that the security set-up at the high school was such that it was possible this could happen. Parents were rightfully concerned about the security at their own child's schools. A good Board would have at least not remained silent on the general security situation at MCPS. Maybe they could have said they're reviewing security at all MCPS schools, or putting in new policies or whatever. Instead, they said nothing. That's incompetence.

Those weren’t the facts, dearie - either someone paid off that family to be quiet or they threatened them. But ‘facts’? No. Don’t be stupid. It was going to be national news forever - and now it’s not. All gone!

I’m not the PP, but man I hate it when people use words like “dearie” or “honey” to condescend to someone. The larger point is that big changes are needed. People in MCPS would be the first to tell you that. Too few people at the top are making all the (crappy) decisions and non-decisions, and too many people (teachers, coaches etc.) are allowed to work when there are active red flags or they’re being investigated. The people working one level below the decision-makers are demoralized because they are watching their leaders make expedient or cost-saving decisions that hurt kids.