Shooting in Munich

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What kind of disorganized, sick society is Germany that any 18 year old can just get a pistol and start killing children at a restaurant?

At least in America, we forbid handgun ownership until at least 21.

Excuse me, ASSHOLE. Sandyhook Elementary School. Newtown, CT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What kind of disorganized, sick society is Germany that any 18 year old can just get a pistol and start killing children at a restaurant?

At least in America, we forbid handgun ownership until at least 21.

Excuse me, ASSHOLE. Sandyhook Elementary School. Newtown, CT.

VA Tech.

Columbine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What kind of disorganized, sick society is Germany that any 18 year old can just get a pistol and start killing children at a restaurant?

At least in America, we forbid handgun ownership until at least 21.

Excuse me, ASSHOLE. Sandyhook Elementary School. Newtown, CT.

A classroom full of 7-year olds, 3 days before Christmas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What kind of disorganized, sick society is Germany that any 18 year old can just get a pistol and start killing children at a restaurant?

At least in America, we forbid handgun ownership until at least 21.

Excuse me, ASSHOLE. Sandyhook Elementary School. Newtown, CT.

A classroom full of 7-year olds, 3 days before Christmas.

December 14.

My own kid's 7th birthday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What kind of disorganized, sick society is Germany that any 18 year old can just get a pistol and start killing children at a restaurant?

At least in America, we forbid handgun ownership until at least 21.

Excuse me, ASSHOLE. Sandyhook Elementary School. Newtown, CT.

A classroom full of 7-year olds, 3 days before Christmas.

December 14.

My own kid's 7th birthday.

Sorry, 11 days. What killed me were the wrapped presents in closets...the kids would never open and the parents had to deal with on top of incredible grief.

[Anonymous]

A murderous criminal won't be too concerned about gun ownership laws or gun free zones.

The issue is the ideology behind these attacks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A murderous criminal won't be too concerned about gun ownership laws or gun free zones.

The issue is the ideology behind these attacks.

Why not both?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A murderous criminal won't be too concerned about gun ownership laws or gun free zones.

The issue is the ideology behind these attacks.

Why not both?

What's the ideology behind Sandy Hook, Columbine, Virginia Tech, the Dark Knight guy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Any German speakers should check out this video which is supposed to be the shooter from the McDonalds on the roof of a parking garage:

https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/756553983250931712

According to translations in the subsequent tweets, the shooter says he is German, was born in Germany, and was bullied while in social services. But, if a good German-speaker could confirm this, it would be helpful.

He could have been born in Germany but is the child of immigrants and most likely he is Muslim is my bet.

Yep. I lived in Berlin and Munich 2002-2004. Safe, safe cities. Big Turkish population in Berlin that was well assimilated.

Let's say it : radical Islam. That is what has gone viral. Freaks are drawn to it like a magnet. You can be nice and sweet and they still want to kill you because you are a non-believer (yes you newborn baby, 10-year old boy, etc).

They are told to come. Fit in and lay low (like the 9/11 killers at the strip bars; the college student and his brother responsible for the Boston bombings, the Orlando shooter that frequented Pulse)...all described as friendly. Read the websites by Isil, etc on how to spread Islam. Chilling.

I'm not afraid of immigration. My ancestors were immigrants. I'm afraid of the current talk of "let them all in and just be nice"...completely missing the point of that some are banking on just that to spread the evil dogma.

It's the ideology we need to change. Yes, war and bombing will probably only make it spread---but teaching these actions are bad and it's a threat to humanity and you should t do this to susceptible populations is not being done either---we aren't even allowed to call it what it is.

This is on Muslims. If I were Muslim, I would be enraged that this keeps going on. Every normal Muslim should be on the warpath against this. Muslim leaders need to stand up and show the world they will not tolerate it. They should say loud and clear to anyone considering this form of "Islam", "We will find you wherever you are, there is no place you can hide from us. Your relatives will turn you in, your neighbors will turn you in, your fellow Muslims everywhere will despise you forever if you turn toward "radical islam. We've had enough. When you behave this way, you hurt all Muslims." Etc.

We cant' do this. Muslims need to do it.

Why don't they? Do they secretly condone the violence?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What kind of disorganized, sick society is Germany that any 18 year old can just get a pistol and start killing children at a restaurant?

At least in America, we forbid handgun ownership until at least 21.

Excuse me, ASSHOLE. Sandyhook Elementary School. Newtown, CT.

A classroom full of 7-year olds, 3 days before Christmas.

December 14.

My own kid's 7th birthday.

Sorry, 11 days. What killed me were the wrapped presents in closets...the kids would never open and the parents had to deal with on top of incredible grief.

I'll never get over Newtown. But the NRA is just fine with it. In fact it helped their bottom line quite a bit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A murderous criminal won't be too concerned about gun ownership laws or gun free zones.

The issue is the ideology behind these attacks.

Why not both?

That is fair. There is such a thing as radical islamic terrorism, and there is a need for better gun control.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What kind of disorganized, sick society is Germany that any 18 year old can just get a pistol and start killing children at a restaurant?

At least in America, we forbid handgun ownership until at least 21.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not. Guns are very difficult to obtain in Germany, and I would be willing to bet that there are at least 20 states where you could buy a handgun at 18.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What kind of disorganized, sick society is Germany that any 18 year old can just get a pistol and start killing children at a restaurant?

At least in America, we forbid handgun ownership until at least 21.

Excuse me, ASSHOLE. Sandyhook Elementary School. Newtown, CT.

A classroom full of 7-year olds, 3 days before Christmas.

December 14.

My own kid's 7th birthday.

Sorry, 11 days. What killed me were the wrapped presents in closets...the kids would never open and the parents had to deal with on top of incredible grief.

Pretty sure the original poster of this whole thing was being sarcastic...

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Alienation is a common theme in the young. Catcher in the Rye is based on it. But when people feel empowered by the chauvinistic/nihilistic threads in a movement they are capable of doing this - killing children eating their dinner. Neo Nazis are the same way, but they mostly have found comfort just in being with each other in modern times, a limited clubhouse. These people are operating alone, seeking that community in the after life I guess. Suicidal attack in Muslim culture goes back centuries. The word assassin comes from 'hashish eaters'--which they were fed before they went on their suicidal missions. It's like the Roman empire and barbarians. And the Roman empire was soft and decadent and lost that round. Western world wake up. You have not declared war on Islamic extremism. It has declared war on you.

Quite a bit of your history is wrong. "Assassins" is derived from the Arabic Hashashin, but that refers to the Nizari Ismaili sect of Islam. That group is an offshoot of Shia Islam which itself is a minority group of Muslims. The primary targets of the Assassins were Sunni Muslims (though Genghis Khan and Richard the Lionheart were other prominent targets) and the group really has nothing to do with Muslim culture as a whole.

Part of the fabric of the history. Thanks for expanding further.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A murderous criminal won't be too concerned about gun ownership laws or gun free zones.

The issue is the ideology behind these attacks.

Why not both?

What's the ideology behind Sandy Hook, Columbine, Virginia Tech, the Dark Knight guy?

I can't speak to Sandy hook or Columbine or Virginia Tech.... But the ideology behind Munich, Nice, Bataclan, Brussels, Orlando, San Bernardino, Boston, Fort Hood, Indonesia, Nairobi, Baghdad, and many others, was clearly spelled out by the perpetrators when they yelled 'Allahu Akhbar' as they murdered people. Most also pledged allegiance to ISIS or ordered victims to recite Quran. They did it in the name of Islam and its god Allah.