What is your honest opinion on undocumented immigrants?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone here illegally should be deported. Period. I voted for Obama twice but feel so strongly about immigration that I just might vote for Trump.

You do know Obama has deported more than any other president right?

Sigh.... No he hasn't. He simply started counting people turned away at the border as deportations, something that was never done before, to inflate the deportation numbers. Actual deportations from the interior are down over 40%.


http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obama-deportations-20140402-story.html

From the article: "Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and are down more than 40% since 2009.

On the other side of the ledger, the number of people deported at or near the border has gone up — primarily as a result of changing who gets counted in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency's deportation statistics."

Technically, they started counting returns and removals together in 1996, so it's not something he started

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, way to stereotype all illegal immigrants. I know a few illegal immigrants and all of them pay taxes, have health insurance or pay for their medical bills, none of them are criminals or do drugs. They are hard working people who are trying to make a better life for themselves and would love to be legalized.

I'm an early PP. The ones I know came in illegally with their parents, then got approval to stay through the Dream Act, and got college paid for them. Now, one claims disability and can never work again. He's not here legally, and we're paying disability for his whole life, unless he (hopefully) gets deported. I don't want to pay to support him. Does anyone else?

Doesnt that mean he's legal now due to the dream act? I.e. He's no different than all the other disabled people you are paying for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for them. It usually means life is so awful that they are willing to risk their own lives and sometimes the lives of their family to try to better their situation. And then they are demonized here by people who get to buy houses and fruit for less money due to their cheap labor (work that no American would want to do).

My DH is in law enforcement and so many are here purely to make money from drugs. They bring it here, find saps to sell it and kill people with heroin.

Don't you think your DHs views might be a bit skewed based on the people he meets on his job?

[Anonymous]

I honestly feel bad for them. And admire their bravery to pack up, sometimes with their family, and go to a new country.

I'm also very very grateful that my life hasn't had to go down that path.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for them. It usually means life is so awful that they are willing to risk their own lives and sometimes the lives of their family to try to better their situation. And then they are demonized here by people who get to buy houses and fruit for less money due to their cheap labor (work that no American would want to do).

My DH is in law enforcement and so many are here purely to make money from drugs. They bring it here, find saps to sell it and kill people with heroin.

May I respectfully suggest that your husband, being in law enforcement, is being exposed to a skewed sample?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, way to stereotype all illegal immigrants. I know a few illegal immigrants and all of them pay taxes, have health insurance or pay for their medical bills, none of them are criminals or do drugs. They are hard working people who are trying to make a better life for themselves and would love to be legalized.

I'm an early PP. The ones I know came in illegally with their parents, then got approval to stay through the Dream Act, and got college paid for them. Now, one claims disability and can never work again. He's not here legally, and we're paying disability for his whole life, unless he (hopefully) gets deported. I don't want to pay to support him. Does anyone else?

Doesnt that mean he's legal now due to the dream act? I.e. He's no different than all the other disabled people you are paying for.

No, he was legal until he finished college (a year ago). Now he's in limbo, essentially illegal, until legislation passes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, way to stereotype all illegal immigrants. I know a few illegal immigrants and all of them pay taxes, have health insurance or pay for their medical bills, none of them are criminals or do drugs. They are hard working people who are trying to make a better life for themselves and would love to be legalized.

I'm an early PP. The ones I know came in illegally with their parents, then got approval to stay through the Dream Act, and got college paid for them. Now, one claims disability and can never work again. He's not here legally, and we're paying disability for his whole life, unless he (hopefully) gets deported. I don't want to pay to support him. Does anyone else?

Doesnt that mean he's legal now due to the dream act? I.e. He's no different than all the other disabled people you are paying for.

No, he was legal until he finished college (a year ago). Now he's in limbo, essentially illegal, until legislation passes.

I like to think those are citizens, but this case makes me think otherwise..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone here illegally should be deported. Period. I voted for Obama twice but feel so strongly about immigration that I just might vote for Trump.

That's nice. Here in the real world, life is a little more complex.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, way to stereotype all illegal immigrants. I know a few illegal immigrants and all of them pay taxes, have health insurance or pay for their medical bills, none of them are criminals or do drugs. They are hard working people who are trying to make a better life for themselves and would love to be legalized.

I'm an early PP. The ones I know came in illegally with their parents, then got approval to stay through the Dream Act, and got college paid for them. Now, one claims disability and can never work again. He's not here legally, and we're paying disability for his whole life, unless he (hopefully) gets deported. I don't want to pay to support him. Does anyone else?

Doesnt that mean he's legal now due to the dream act? I.e. He's no different than all the other disabled people you are paying for.

No, he was legal until he finished college (a year ago). Now he's in limbo, essentially illegal, until legislation passes.

I like to think those are citizens, but this case makes me think otherwise..

I wonder how you can convince someone in an underemployment zone that their lives are better by paying for this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, way to stereotype all illegal immigrants. I know a few illegal immigrants and all of them pay taxes, have health insurance or pay for their medical bills, none of them are criminals or do drugs. They are hard working people who are trying to make a better life for themselves and would love to be legalized.

I'm an early PP. The ones I know came in illegally with their parents, then got approval to stay through the Dream Act, and got college paid for them. Now, one claims disability and can never work again. He's not here legally, and we're paying disability for his whole life, unless he (hopefully) gets deported. I don't want to pay to support him. Does anyone else?

Doesnt that mean he's legal now due to the dream act? I.e. He's no different than all the other disabled people you are paying for.

No, he was legal until he finished college (a year ago). Now he's in limbo, essentially illegal, until legislation passes.

I like to think those are citizens, but this case makes me think otherwise..

I wonder how you can convince someone in an underemployment zone that their lives are better by paying for this?

Paying for what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for them. It usually means life is so awful that they are willing to risk their own lives and sometimes the lives of their family to try to better their situation. And then they are demonized here by people who get to buy houses and fruit for less money due to their cheap labor (work that no American would want to do).

My DH is in law enforcement and so many are here purely to make money from drugs. They bring it here, find saps to sell it and kill people with heroin.

May I respectfully suggest that your husband, being in law enforcement, is being exposed to a skewed sample?

Can you show me a not skewed samples? I am not in law enforcement, but I do come across a lot of illegal immigrants in my job. A lot of them are criminals, mostly petit crimes, drugs, domestic violence. Saw hundreds of them who were previosly deported once or twice, are back, under different identity. For those who says that they are not eligible for any benefits it would be an eye opener to find out how many of them do receive benefits by virtue of fraud. It is sad to see how stupid Americans are who letting this people to rip them off. But again, Americans never been the smartest nation, so I guess they are getting what they deserve.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ever seen the movie "A Day without a Mexican"? I think illegal immigrants to a large extent, and recent immigrants legal or otherwise, are the foundation of our way of life. They build our homes, prepare and serve our food, deliver our goods, install and fix our appliances, babysit our children and clean up after us everywhere we go.

Without them, we would want to immigrate somewhere else.

Nah, all those things got taken care of before immigrants and all those things will be done if they left. Life goes on - mexicans or no mexicans

Can you tell me about a time in US history when there weren't immigrants to take on heavy labor jobs? Or are Latin American immigrants the only ones you have a problem with?

PP prefers to return the days of slavery, when those jobs were performed by citizens. 3/5 of a citizen, but still.

np here...pp...makes ridiculous, unsupported by facts, statements/accusations.

[Anonymous]

Well Trump is "moderating" his position for the general. He says he has suddenly developed a big heart since he slid in the polls and promises no mass deportation.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/284910-trump-shifts-tone-no-mass-deportations

What has the Trumpkins got to say?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well Trump is "moderating" his position for the general. He says he has suddenly developed a big heart since he slid in the polls and promises no mass deportation.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/284910-trump-shifts-tone-no-mass-deportations

What has the Trumpkins got to say?

Really? That is the only reason I (a traditionally liberal democrat) considered voting for him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone here illegally should be deported. Period. I voted for Obama twice but feel so strongly about immigration that I just might vote for Trump.

That's nice. Here in the real world, life is a little more complex.

No, it's not. Which part of "illegal" don't you understand?