What is your honest opinion on undocumented immigrants?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The US cannot survive if 40% is one ethnic group because they will set all the policies due to politicians kissing their asses and others resenting them.


Um, isn't that how it's been for the last 200+ years?

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Anonymous wrote:Ever seen the movie "A Day without a Mexican"? I think illegal immigrants to a large extent, and recent immigrants legal or otherwise, are the foundation of our way of life. They build our homes, prepare and serve our food, deliver our goods, install and fix our appliances, babysit our children and clean up after us everywhere we go.

Without them, we would want to immigrate somewhere else.


Nah, all those things got taken care of before immigrants and all those things will be done if they left. Life goes on - mexicans or no mexicans


Can you tell me about a time in US history when there weren't immigrants to take on heavy labor jobs? Or are Latin American immigrants the only ones you have a problem with?


PP prefers to return the days of slavery, when those jobs were performed by citizens. 3/5 of a citizen, but still.
Anonymous
Keep blaming the "others" for all your social-economic problems while the rich get richer. Hell! It is so entertaining to see common folk tearing each other apart. Bread and Circuses!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anyone here illegally should be deported. Period. I voted for Obama twice but feel so strongly about immigration that I just might vote for Trump.


You do know Obama has deported more than any other president right?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They are breaking the laws of the US. Contrary to popular liberal belief, the US is no longer the melting pot It was 100 years ago. Those immigrants assimilated, learned English and became Americans in every respect. Today the illegals do nothing to assimilate, expect everything to be given to them. I am sick of them.

Stop discounting Trump. If he promised to make ENGLISH our national language and to deport anyone who has been in the country for more than two years and not fluent in English, he would win in a landslide. He may still win in a landslide by just promising to build the wall.


Actually, back then, it was the same discussion, but different groups of immigrants.
http://www.ushistory.org/us/25f.asp

https://history.state.gov/milestones/1866-1898/chinese-immigration

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/11/racist-anti-immigrant-cartoons-from-the-turn-of-the-20th-century/383248/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The US cannot survive if 40% is one ethnic group because they will set all the policies due to politicians kissing their asses and others resenting them.
like white people in the past 300 years, and how they brought in slavery of an entire race, and segregation of all non white people?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The US cannot survive if 40% is one ethnic group because they will set all the policies due to politicians kissing their asses and others resenting them.


Um, isn't that how it's been for the last 200+ years?



I am talking about ethnic group, not skin color.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone here illegally should be deported. Period. I voted for Obama twice but feel so strongly about immigration that I just might vote for Trump.


You do know Obama has deported more than any other president right?


Sigh.... No he hasn't. He simply started counting people turned away at the border as deportations, something that was never done before, to inflate the deportation numbers. Actual deportations from the interior are down over 40%.


http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obama-deportations-20140402-story.html

From the article: "Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and are down more than 40% since 2009.

On the other side of the ledger, the number of people deported at or near the border has gone up — primarily as a result of changing who gets counted in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency's deportation statistics."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Wow, way to stereotype all illegal immigrants. I know a few illegal immigrants and all of them pay taxes, have health insurance or pay for their medical bills, none of them are criminals or do drugs. They are hard working people who are trying to make a better life for themselves and would love to be legalized.


I'm an early PP. The ones I know came in illegally with their parents, then got approval to stay through the Dream Act, and got college paid for them. Now, one claims disability and can never work again. He's not here legally, and we're paying disability for his whole life, unless he (hopefully) gets deported. I don't want to pay to support him. Does anyone else?
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how do you feel about people sneaking into your country, not paying taxes, using the healthcare system for free,their children getting ESL, free meals and other Amazing programs in public schools, committing crimes against Americans, drug running, babies of undocumented immigrants getting citizenship, etc,etc. I think it is a serious problem. I just visited Yakima WA, and the city is under HUGE strain because of the influx not of legal immigrants, but illegal, undocumented immigrants


Sneaking into any country to work and live is illegal. Therefore, they are not "undocmented immigrants" they are illegal aliens. They are law breakers. LAWLESS, just like the corrupt and filthy countries they come from mainly the Latin-speaking mosquito-infested cesspools south of Texas.

My thinking is if these people will break immigration laws they are likely to break other laws too like running stop signs (a friend of mine was terribly injured because an illegal alien paid no attention/did not understand our traffic laws) or steal whatever they feel necessary to fake it or make it like they do in their own filthy country. People who have to break the law to sneak into the country are desparate or they are criminals and want to sneak in to commit their crimes undetected.

I am all for giving people a hand to help. but such people should do so through proper legal channels which is why we have --drumroll please, embassies in about every country in the world where people can petition to be let in.

Naturally, if such people are illiterate, evil, or diseased and cannot or will not go through the process then I do not want people like that in my country, certainly not in my neighborhood and not in my school system where teacher
resources are already overextendend and now they have to coddle these people with teaching them in their own language. WHAT THE HELL? If I moved to another country and demanded they teach my children in my language I would
expect to be treated with the greatest of disdain at being so vile and offensive to the host country. I see illegal aliens as vile scammers and spammers not to be trusted. Not all of them of course, you cannot paint them
all with the same brush, but the majority of them are this way, coming in and expecting handouts and getting benefits they did not earn and do not deserve. To reiterate: i am talking about illegal immigrants, not immigrants who used proper, legal channels to enter this country.

Personally, I think immigration is great: more immigrants means more people buying food, shelter, clothing increasing demand thus stimulating the economy to produce more supply, and America has huge swaths of land virtually uninhabited.
Why, we could fit all the population of El Salavador in Wyoming, and all the people of Guatamala in the swamps of Louisiana if we wanted to. There is plenty room for more people, room for a billion more. Just think of a billion
new citizens all buying cars, and clothes, and computers, our economy would be forced to expand to accomodate them.

But they need to get here lawfully and not be a drain on the safety net which is for emergency situations, not a substitute for employment.


I'm a PP. I never thought about this before. My mother's car was hit by a snowplow running a red light when she advanced at a green light, pinning her car to the car next to her, and sending them both to the hospital. The plow driver was illegal, no driver's license, and his employer's business license was revoked. I always just thought the driver had been careless but this is interesting to consider, though I may not agree either way.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Pp absolutely right. You cannot have Mexico come to the us to paint houses and cut the grass. Who is going to do the real
Work


There are actually work visas where you can come and legally work a seasonal job here (such as painting) for x number of months and then you go home.


On paper, yes but it's unavailable to most people who've come here illegally. If this process actually worked, they wouldn't be coming here illegally. The visa program is broken and needs to be fixed.


Your problem is that you define a working visa program as "anyone who wants to come here, can."
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Ever seen the movie "A Day without a Mexican"? I think illegal immigrants to a large extent, and recent immigrants legal or otherwise, are the foundation of our way of life. They build our homes, prepare and serve our food, deliver our goods, install and fix our appliances, babysit our children and clean up after us everywhere we go.

Without them, we would want to immigrate somewhere else.


Nah, all those things got taken care of before immigrants and all those things will be done if they left. Life goes on - mexicans or no mexicans


Can you tell me about a time in US history when there weren't immigrants to take on heavy labor jobs? Or are Latin American immigrants the only ones you have a problem with?


PP prefers to return the days of slavery, when those jobs were performed by citizens. 3/5 of a citizen, but still.


Slaves were not the only people here doing hard physical dirty work.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Wow, way to stereotype all illegal immigrants. I know a few illegal immigrants and all of them pay taxes, have health insurance or pay for their medical bills, none of them are criminals or do drugs. They are hard working people who are trying to make a better life for themselves and would love to be legalized.


YES, they are criminals!
They entered the country illegally. They broke the law. They are in fact criminals.


+100
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone here illegally should be deported. Period. I voted for Obama twice but feel so strongly about immigration that I just might vote for Trump.


You do know Obama has deported more than any other president right?


And there's still a lot of work to be done.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anyone here illegally should be deported. Period. I voted for Obama twice but feel so strongly about immigration that I just might vote for Trump.


Agreed.
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