Fairfax County School Board Votes to Teach 7th Graders about 'Gender Identy'

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question for the people who think transgender is a lie - do you also believe that homosexuality is a lie? Is that part of what you're objecting to?

NP. Yes, in many cases I think it is. I don't doubt that some people are born with a gay tendency or genetic make-up. But more, especially currently, I think are influenced by the hype and cool of it all, the encouragement to "experiment" and the notions that if a young girl happens to think another female is attractive and she's having a rough spot with boys this month, well then she must be gay. I think many young people are led astray by this and some get caught up in the lifestyle that they truly have no idea how to get out of. But that's all part of the goal, of the lie, of the agenda, which is why I think schools have absolutely no business discussing this on any level.

I have a perfect example of this in my own family, so I've seen it first hand.

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So can we opt out kids out of this?
If it's part of FLE we can. Where are they including this?

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question for the people who think transgender is a lie - do you also believe that homosexuality is a lie? Is that part of what you're objecting to?

Stop scapegoating gay people with the comparison. How ridiculous and disgusting. Gay people don't have anything to do with mental cases who think they can wish away their genital organs. A person with a penis and XY chromosomes is a man. Period. The "feeling of being a woman is a mental psychosis that flies in the face of the flesh and blood biological matter of the penis. What becomes of the sexes of trans people with neurological problems? Is a trans female a woman if they have a frontal lobe brain injury and no longer feels transgender? Or, is it that easy to return to the male gender? What an absolute can of worms joke. The essence of mental distortion. Last time I checked gay men love their genitals. They love their penises (and others too). Stop trying to make the mental disorder of transgender seem legit by roping in the issue of gays/lesbians.

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I was beaten up...I was paddled by the principal. I was called a N****r loving Pollock Jew. I had a cross burning and bomb threat at my school..

Sure you did.

You do not hav eto believe it, but it is what happened to me. And I do not see it as different from a LGBT youth being teased/beaten up. In both cases, it is part of who we are. I am Jewish. Unlike a LGBT person, I could chose to change my belief on any day. Those that do not see the parallel argument jot don't get it. And should be ignored. Thank you FCPS!

How can you call this a parallel argument, and yet state the circumstances are different?

And why should anyone who doesn't agree with you be ignored? Because you have it all figured out? Frankly, you still sound bitter about what you say happened to you 40+ years ago. Not exactly a great basis for making rational decisions now.

Actually, my rationality is that, if your actions do not impact me, and you are not hurting anyone, you should be free to be whatever. An LGBT person does not impact me, and does not harm anyone. They should be accepted.

As a jew, me being jewish does not impact you and does not hurt anyone....it should be no problem (and is not today).

In 1975, people took me being jewish as something that had to be fixed....something that is wrong. The bible says Christ is the savior, how can you believe otherwise? Yet, my bible did not say that.

Today, 2015, you are saying LBGT are not natural, and need to be fixed. That something is wrong. The bible says that.

See the parallelism?

But these actions DO impact me, and they impact my kids. I don't want them being taught that transgenderism is OK, normal, fine, tolerable, acceptable or any other current day PC BS. What part of that don't you understand? And if you can't see the difference in being born into one of the world's three great religions that dates back thousands of years, and is constructed as an organized means to worship God -- versus someone with a penis thinking well hey I sure do wish I had a vagina, so I'm going to castrate myself to prove to the world that my "feelings" are more meaningful than the facts of reality -- well, I can't help you.

This x 1 million. Also, I doubt the "Jewish is the same as transgender" poster is actually Jewish. He/she is a trans mental patient desperate to find a way to make trans sound legitimate. Jews and Christiams aren't mentally ill, trans people are. Major difference!

Why? It seems every bit as mentally "ill" to me to believe that you are somehow the "chosen people" of an all-powerful God, or the notion that God decided to send his offspring down to earth one time thousands of years ago for a 30-year guest appearance, than to identify more with the opposite gender, despite the genitalia you were born with.

Atheist here. Could care a less about Jews/Christians. Transgender are mentally ill. Period. The penis and scrotom you have aren't "poof be gone" because you've decided you're a woman. Also, men aren't qualified to be women. They wouldn't last s second in our shoes. This is just more expression of the white male privilege rearing its ugly head. Now you can women? Don't think so, crazies!

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question for the people who think transgender is a lie - do you also believe that homosexuality is a lie? Is that part of what you're objecting to?

Stop scapegoating gay people with the comparison. How ridiculous and disgusting. Gay people don't have anything to do with mental cases who think they can wish away their genital organs. A person with a penis and XY chromosomes is a man. Period. The "feeling of being a woman is a mental psychosis that flies in the face of the flesh and blood biological matter of the penis. What becomes of the sexes of trans people with neurological problems? Is a trans female a woman if they have a frontal lobe brain injury and no longer feels transgender? Or, is it that easy to return to the male gender? What an absolute can of worms joke. The essence of mental distortion. Last time I checked gay men love their genitals. They love their penises (and others too). Stop trying to make the mental disorder of transgender seem legit by roping in the issue of gays/lesbians.

Did you read PP before you, who said she does think homosexuality is a lie?

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question for the people who think transgender is a lie - do you also believe that homosexuality is a lie? Is that part of what you're objecting to?

NP. Yes, in many cases I think it is. I don't doubt that some people are born with a gay tendency or genetic make-up. But more, especially currently, I think are influenced by the hype and cool of it all, the encouragement to "experiment" and the notions that if a young girl happens to think another female is attractive and she's having a rough spot with boys this month, well then she must be gay. I think many young people are led astray by this and some get caught up in the lifestyle that they truly have no idea how to get out of. But that's all part of the goal, of the lie, of the agenda, which is why I think schools have absolutely no business discussing this on any level.

I have a perfect example of this in my own family, so I've seen it first hand.

You are too stupid for words and cling proof of why every school should discuss it. And newsflash, honey: your family member probably decided to fake heterosexuality once they realized they were related to a bunch of imbeciles. Or maybe th

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And still I wait for one naysayer to provide any explanation of the harm that comes to their kids besides their own personal discomfort at the very idea and fear of the possibility their kid might end up queer.

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Anonymous wrote:And still I wait for one naysayer to provide any explanation of the harm that comes to their kids besides their own personal discomfort at the very idea and fear of the possibility their kid might end up queer.

The harm is that it would undermine the kids' trust in the teacher that would affect other areas. Transgender is a mental disorder, so once the teacher gets started with the propagandists lie that it's all good, the kids are going think, "gee, I can't trust anything the teacher says." It only takes one lie to ruin the trust. The kids will wonder what else is fabricated or propagandist. at that point the educator pupil relationship is destroyed. That's a problem. So not worth it because someone can't acknowledge the reality of their penis and dysfunctionally believes that their "feelings the womanhood" trumps the flesh penis and scrotum dangling between their legs.

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Anonymous wrote:So can we opt out kids out of this?
If it's part of FLE we can. Where are they including this?

Yes, you can. That's one reason why calling opponents "fucktarded bigots"as someone else did on this thread is not entirely inaccurate. It's not enough that opponents don't like it, they have to scream and cry and stomp their feet and hold their breath until their faces turn blue because it exists at all, regardless of the opinions of the rest of us.

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Anonymous wrote:So can we opt out kids out of this?
If it's part of FLE we can. Where are they including this?

Yes, you can. That's one reason why calling opponents "fucktarded bigots"as someone else did on this thread is not entirely inaccurate. It's not enough that opponents don't like it, they have to scream and cry and stomp their feet and hold their breath until their faces turn blue because it exists at all, regardless of the opinions of the rest of us.

When your argument against teaching that some people are transgendered, and we should not harass them for it is that is replaced with They are sick and unnatural freaks...

The purpose of the class is not to convert people, but rather to get people comfortable with who they are, and to teach others to let them live.

I know people that were bullied for who they are -- they are dying off, but I have a 91 year old cousin who spent WWII living in a wall in poland. Oh, the Nazis came for the Gays as well as the jews (and the mentally ill).

If it is a mental illness, it is one that does not harm anyone, and is one with no effective treatment other than acceptance.

The problem with bigots is they do not even realize they are bigots. And I am definitely against the religious fanatics that are destroying our great country. I wish God (Facebook god) would smite them, for I am jewish with that vengeful old testament angry god.

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Seriously? Is this a troll?

Nope. Not a troll. OP is legit.

School board did this the first Wednesday of summer vacation.


The vote in June was the culmination of several months of public comments. It was a topic throughout the spring. It was not spring at the last moment. There were several periods for public comment. I am sorry if you were not paying attention.

It is you who are not paying attention. Parents were told at that time that students could opt out of the lessons, and now it appears they cannot.

Are you reading? They can opt out almost entirely. If you want your kids to never hear words that don't align with your conservative beliefs, public school is not for you. To raise your child in a bubble you really need to homeschool.

Bing, bing BING. Government run schools should not be pushing a agenda in the first place. They should be focusing on the three Rs, and any social studies and historical issue should be presented factually, fairly, and evenly.

My SIL is a nurse who teaches health in school. A girl came up and asked her exactly how abortion is performed. My SIL said she would be glad to tell her, but had to have her mother come in as well. That's called 'involving the parent'. As it should be.

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Anonymous wrote:PSA to all the pearl clutchers: you don't HAVE to send your kids to FCPS!

But they a WILL force me to pay for it regardless. So I get a say

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Anonymous wrote:I'm an MD. If a patient comes to me and says they're thinking they are the wrong sex, I'd refer them to a mental health professional. Do you think I should refer them to an OB/GYN?

There is no medical proof it's biological, vice mental.

Until there is, I'd like to opt-out my kids from all of it. Garza said we could. She was wrong (or lying).

Thank you. Clear and concise

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Anonymous wrote:... who am I (or you) to tell someone what gender they feel inside, and truly, why would I care to do so?

I am in the business of live and let live.

You are in the business of being up in people's lives, which is funny since the right wing is usually of the mindset of "keep the government out of it" (unless it offends your delicate sensibilities, I suppose.)

Who cares what someone "feels inside?" Feelings come and go like the summer wind.

No, I am in the business of protecting my children and others from this kind of distorted mental and emotional abuse being shoved at them from all directions from an idiotic society that impresses itself by posting rainbow flags on a facebook page.

And the White House. Talk about the ultimate manipulation

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None of the PPs have shown how it actually impacts them or their kids aside from them having to ~talk~ about things they don't like and run the risk that their kids might not be bigots like them, because they have no proof, evidence, or anything useful to say.

11:17 again. I have to say that I agree with this. I've not heard from those who object to this exactly how it impacts them. It's not enough to say there's an impact, you have to describe/show/demonstrate an impact. Vehemence is not a substitute for discussion.

Because I don't want my government, in the form of a public school curriculum, lying to me or my kids. When we so blindly accept that, we, as a society, are done.

Precisely