To men who have seen prostitutes...

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Anonymous wrote:So what you feminists are saying is that you can decide you don't want to have sex with your husbands, but when your husbands then look for sex elsewhere, be it an affair or an escort, you don't understand why he would do that?

I'm curious to know why you feel it's ok not to engage in sexual relations with a man you are married to and not expect any repercussions. I'm not talking about physical limitations, just "I don't wanna". What makes women so special (and before you start in I AM a woman) that they feel they can behave like this?

I predict crickets on this one, but what the hell do I know.

I'll get attacked. Guaranteed.

I really want to know why any woman feels that her feelings and needs are more important than her husbands. Vaginas don't give you special privileges. You don't get to reject people because you have one.

You do, actually. You get to decide what goes into your vagina. You, and no one else. Your vagina is your undivided kingdom. And so is your husband's dick. He gets to decide where to put it. If he doesn't want to put it in you, he won't. Yes, he gets to reject people he doesn't want.

And if you aren't letting him put it in you as often as he'd like, he has the power to go and do something else with it.

Of course he does, he is his own person. He has the power to do that even if I let him put it in me as often as he'd like. I can't force him to put it in me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A friend of mine owned a brothel in Germany (known as FKK clubs), where prostitution is legal. It was highly regulated and the police would make visits and check paperwork if there were any reports of wrongdoing. His workers came from various parts of the world, including a lot from Eastern Europe, and some from South America. From talking with him, it sounds like no one was being forced into it. He had no incentive to do so. He wanted to be sure they were all of legal working age and had their paperwork, as he wans't going to risk getting his business shut down by one girl. He had little incentive to "traffic" them.

how did he interview the girls? F them?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So what you feminists are saying is that you can decide you don't want to have sex with your husbands, but when your husbands then look for sex elsewhere, be it an affair or an escort, you don't understand why he would do that?

I'm curious to know why you feel it's ok not to engage in sexual relations with a man you are married to and not expect any repercussions. I'm not talking about physical limitations, just "I don't wanna". What makes women so special (and before you start in I AM a woman) that they feel they can behave like this?

I predict crickets on this one, but what the hell do I know.

I'll get attacked. Guaranteed.

I really want to know why any woman feels that her feelings and needs are more important than her husbands. Vaginas don't give you special privileges. You don't get to reject people because you have one.

I am a proponent of legalizing prostiution and even I would not say this. A woman can reject a man and vice versa. I just think that a spouse who rotuinely rejects a spouse loses the right to castigate the rejected spouse if they seek sex elsewhere. It is lise people are controlling the sex lives of both people.

And FWIW, routine escort visits and massage parlor visits have kept a lot of marriages together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A friend of mine owned a brothel in Germany (known as FKK clubs), where prostitution is legal. It was highly regulated and the police would make visits and check paperwork if there were any reports of wrongdoing. His workers came from various parts of the world, including a lot from Eastern Europe, and some from South America. From talking with him, it sounds like no one was being forced into it. He had no incentive to do so. He wanted to be sure they were all of legal working age and had their paperwork, as he wans't going to risk getting his business shut down by one girl. He had little incentive to "traffic" them.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/human-trafficking-persists-despite-legality-of-prostitution-in-germany-a-902533.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh stop it. Men are not by and large visiting prostitutes because their wives won't sleep with them. Maybe 1 in 100 of them.

Think that if you want...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think women just get all upset about this because deep down they know they do the same thing, but without the direct payments of cash. With little effort, we can find a number of post on this site about women getting married for money, status(right school, "good/rich" family, right type of job), etc. or the man should pay for everything on a date regardless of income....like meals, airfare(there was just a post about some guy wanting to pay for airfare), etc.

Woman here and I totally agree with this. Human trafficking is a crime andwe should do all that we can to stop it but women have been "selling what they can" for centuries and I dont think that there is anything wrong with it. In fact, I think that most of these "transactions" are more open and honest than most marriage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So what you feminists are saying is that you can decide you don't want to have sex with your husbands, but when your husbands then look for sex elsewhere, be it an affair or an escort, you don't understand why he would do that?

I'm curious to know why you feel it's ok not to engage in sexual relations with a man you are married to and not expect any repercussions. I'm not talking about physical limitations, just "I don't wanna". What makes women so special (and before you start in I AM a woman) that they feel they can behave like this?

I predict crickets on this one, but what the hell do I know.

I'll get attacked. Guaranteed.

I really want to know why any woman feels that her feelings and needs are more important than her husbands. Vaginas don't give you special privileges. You don't get to reject people because you have one.

I am a proponent of legalizing prostiution and even I would not say this. A woman can reject a man and vice versa. I just think that a spouse who rotuinely rejects a spouse loses the right to castigate the rejected spouse if they seek sex elsewhere. It is lise people are controlling the sex lives of both people.

And FWIW, routine escort visits and massage parlor visits have kept a lot of marriages together.

Sure they do. Especially if that person is using illegal means, that victimize women, to get sex.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So what you feminists are saying is that you can decide you don't want to have sex with your husbands, but when your husbands then look for sex elsewhere, be it an affair or an escort, you don't understand why he would do that?

I'm curious to know why you feel it's ok not to engage in sexual relations with a man you are married to and not expect any repercussions. I'm not talking about physical limitations, just "I don't wanna". What makes women so special (and before you start in I AM a woman) that they feel they can behave like this?

I predict crickets on this one, but what the hell do I know.

I'll get attacked. Guaranteed.

I really want to know why any woman feels that her feelings and needs are more important than her husbands. Vaginas don't give you special privileges. You don't get to reject people because you have one.

You do, actually. You get to decide what goes into your vagina. You, and no one else. Your vagina is your undivided kingdom. And so is your husband's dick. He gets to decide where to put it. If he doesn't want to put it in you, he won't. Yes, he gets to reject people he doesn't want.

And if you aren't letting him put it in you as often as he'd like, he has the power to go and do something else with it.

Of course he does, he is his own person. He has the power to do that even if I let him put it in me as often as he'd like. I can't force him to put it in me.

Here's the thing, I do agree that it is reasonable for a man to expect to have sexual relations with his wife on an ongoing basis. We all know that it doesn't always happen -- for quite a variety of reasons. I understand that many men seek sexual satisfactions elsewhere. While I don't agree with it on moral grounds, I get that it happens. What really makes me angry though, is that many of these men (especially the ones seeing prostitutes) do not inform their spouse of their activities. Obviously, they don't tell their wives because they fear the repercussions of doing so. That is a cowardly move.

My ex cheated on me with prostitutes while he swore that he was faithful to me. He and I were not having much sex and it wasn't because I was saying no. He endangered my already fragile health with his sexual activities. He claimed that he did it to "save our marriage." Again, that is a cowardly move. If you are doing something outside of the marriage, you should give me the opportunity to decide whether I want to save our marriage. I put up with all sorts of shit on his behalf, but the cheating was the last straw.

Bottom line, you have a right to put your dick where you want ---but you DON"T have a right to stick it in me afterwards without telling me where it has been.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So what you feminists are saying is that you can decide you don't want to have sex with your husbands, but when your husbands then look for sex elsewhere, be it an affair or an escort, you don't understand why he would do that?

I'm curious to know why you feel it's ok not to engage in sexual relations with a man you are married to and not expect any repercussions. I'm not talking about physical limitations, just "I don't wanna". What makes women so special (and before you start in I AM a woman) that they feel they can behave like this?

I predict crickets on this one, but what the hell do I know.

I'll get attacked. Guaranteed.

I really want to know why any woman feels that her feelings and needs are more important than her husbands. Vaginas don't give you special privileges. You don't get to reject people because you have one.

You do, actually. You get to decide what goes into your vagina. You, and no one else. Your vagina is your undivided kingdom. And so is your husband's dick. He gets to decide where to put it. If he doesn't want to put it in you, he won't. Yes, he gets to reject people he doesn't want.

And if you aren't letting him put it in you as often as he'd like, he has the power to go and do something else with it.

Of course he does, he is his own person. He has the power to do that even if I let him put it in me as often as he'd like. I can't force him to put it in me.

Here's the thing, I do agree that it is reasonable for a man to expect to have sexual relations with his wife on an ongoing basis. We all know that it doesn't always happen -- for quite a variety of reasons. I understand that many men seek sexual satisfactions elsewhere. While I don't agree with it on moral grounds, I get that it happens. What really makes me angry though, is that many of these men (especially the ones seeing prostitutes) do not inform their spouse of their activities. Obviously, they don't tell their wives because they fear the repercussions of doing so. That is a cowardly move.

My ex cheated on me with prostitutes while he swore that he was faithful to me. He and I were not having much sex and it wasn't because I was saying no. He endangered my already fragile health with his sexual activities. He claimed that he did it to "save our marriage." Again, that is a cowardly move. If you are doing something outside of the marriage, you should give me the opportunity to decide whether I want to save our marriage. I put up with all sorts of shit on his behalf, but the cheating was the last straw.

Bottom line, you have a right to put your dick where you want ---but you DON"T have a right to stick it in me afterwards without telling me where it has been.

I'm so sorry PP. This is awful. I have to say, I do disagree with your assertion that wives have to provide their partners with sex on an ongoing basis. The fact is, no one owes anyone else sex. If your partner is uninterested in sleeping with you, it's time to reconsider how you are treated them and the dynamics of your relationship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what you feminists are saying is that you can decide you don't want to have sex with your husbands, but when your husbands then look for sex elsewhere, be it an affair or an escort, you don't understand why he would do that?

I'm curious to know why you feel it's ok not to engage in sexual relations with a man you are married to and not expect any repercussions. I'm not talking about physical limitations, just "I don't wanna". What makes women so special (and before you start in I AM a woman) that they feel they can behave like this?

I predict crickets on this one, but what the hell do I know.

I'll get attacked. Guaranteed.

I really want to know why any woman feels that her feelings and needs are more important than her husbands. Vaginas don't give you special privileges. You don't get to reject people because you have one.

You do, actually. You get to decide what goes into your vagina. You, and no one else. Your vagina is your undivided kingdom. And so is your husband's dick. He gets to decide where to put it. If he doesn't want to put it in you, he won't. Yes, he gets to reject people he doesn't want.

And if you aren't letting him put it in you as often as he'd like, he has the power to go and do something else with it.

Of course he does, he is his own person. He has the power to do that even if I let him put it in me as often as he'd like. I can't force him to put it in me.

Here's the thing, I do agree that it is reasonable for a man to expect to have sexual relations with his wife on an ongoing basis. We all know that it doesn't always happen -- for quite a variety of reasons. I understand that many men seek sexual satisfactions elsewhere. While I don't agree with it on moral grounds, I get that it happens. What really makes me angry though, is that many of these men (especially the ones seeing prostitutes) do not inform their spouse of their activities. Obviously, they don't tell their wives because they fear the repercussions of doing so. That is a cowardly move.

My ex cheated on me with prostitutes while he swore that he was faithful to me. He and I were not having much sex and it wasn't because I was saying no. He endangered my already fragile health with his sexual activities. He claimed that he did it to "save our marriage." Again, that is a cowardly move. If you are doing something outside of the marriage, you should give me the opportunity to decide whether I want to save our marriage. I put up with all sorts of shit on his behalf, but the cheating was the last straw.

Bottom line, you have a right to put your dick where you want ---but you DON"T have a right to stick it in me afterwards without telling me where it has been.

Sorry for what you went through. This does remind me though- I saw a TV report on prostitution and they said that after arresting the johns, they gave them the option of calling their spouse and having the wife pick them up. Not a single one picked them up on it. Hilarious and also so pathetic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh stop it. Men are not by and large visiting prostitutes because their wives won't sleep with them. Maybe 1 in 100 of them.

Think that if you want...

Prove me wrong if you can...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So what you feminists are saying is that you can decide you don't want to have sex with your husbands, but when your husbands then look for sex elsewhere, be it an affair or an escort, you don't understand why he would do that?

I'm curious to know why you feel it's ok not to engage in sexual relations with a man you are married to and not expect any repercussions. I'm not talking about physical limitations, just "I don't wanna". What makes women so special (and before you start in I AM a woman) that they feel they can behave like this?

I predict crickets on this one, but what the hell do I know.

I'll get attacked. Guaranteed.

I really want to know why any woman feels that her feelings and needs are more important than her husbands. Vaginas don't give you special privileges. You don't get to reject people because you have one.

You do, actually. You get to decide what goes into your vagina. You, and no one else. Your vagina is your undivided kingdom. And so is your husband's dick. He gets to decide where to put it. If he doesn't want to put it in you, he won't. Yes, he gets to reject people he doesn't want.

And if you aren't letting him put it in you as often as he'd like, he has the power to go and do something else with it.

Of course he does, he is his own person. He has the power to do that even if I let him put it in me as often as he'd like. I can't force him to put it in me.

Here's the thing, I do agree that it is reasonable for a man to expect to have sexual relations with his wife on an ongoing basis. We all know that it doesn't always happen -- for quite a variety of reasons. I understand that many men seek sexual satisfactions elsewhere. While I don't agree with it on moral grounds, I get that it happens. What really makes me angry though, is that many of these men (especially the ones seeing prostitutes) do not inform their spouse of their activities. Obviously, they don't tell their wives because they fear the repercussions of doing so. That is a cowardly move.

My ex cheated on me with prostitutes while he swore that he was faithful to me. He and I were not having much sex and it wasn't because I was saying no. He endangered my already fragile health with his sexual activities. He claimed that he did it to "save our marriage." Again, that is a cowardly move. If you are doing something outside of the marriage, you should give me the opportunity to decide whether I want to save our marriage. I put up with all sorts of shit on his behalf, but the cheating was the last straw.

Bottom line, you have a right to put your dick where you want ---but you DON"T have a right to stick it in me afterwards without telling me where it has been.

I'm so sorry PP. This is awful. I have to say, I do disagree with your assertion that wives have to provide their partners with sex on an ongoing basis. The fact is, no one owes anyone else sex. If your partner is uninterested in sleeping with you, it's time to reconsider how you are treated them and the dynamics of your relationship.

Wow. A woman who has mastered the art of using sex as a weapon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As my friend (a frequent visitor to prositutes) always said: you don't pay them for sex, you pay for them not to call you the next day.

this

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh stop it. Men are not by and large visiting prostitutes because their wives won't sleep with them. Maybe 1 in 100 of them.

Think that if you want...

Did you READ the two articles up thread where the Johns themselves talk about why they see pros? Sorry to blow your theory out of the water.

You are just trying to find a way to justify the unjustifiable.

Next tell me all the good reasons why men rape. Tell me about "legitimate" rape, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh stop it. Men are not by and large visiting prostitutes because their wives won't sleep with them. Maybe 1 in 100 of them.

Think that if you want...

Did you READ the two articles up thread where the Johns themselves talk about why they see pros? Sorry to blow your theory out of the water.

You are just trying to find a way to justify the unjustifiable.

Next tell me all the good reasons why men rape. Tell me about "legitimate" rape, etc.

settle down sally. you seem to have an axe to grind.