What do we think will happen on Monday?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the people volunteering their time and efforts to help their neighbors should be celebrated and that doesn’t have to be gender specific. Teen girls can help with shoveling and volunteer just like the boys but the messaging has been for boys to help with shoveling. Yes, girls could jump on the bandwagon but they are not being asked, which is sexist. I don’t think it is intentional but it is sexist.

Framing the ask for “Any able body volunteers who are available” gives more room for both genders to participate instead of asking only for boys.

And yes, asking if there are girls who can help watch kids of working parents is also sexist.

I am not sure why people struggle with the idea of just asking for help and not asking for gender specific help. Maybe more boys will show up but leaving it nuetral makes it easier for girls to show up.

Every request has been framed gender neutral, "Are there any teens or younger people available to help with shoveling?"

Not one tern girl is volunteering.

Not a dingle parent of teen girls (and we have plenty) have volunteered their daughters to help shovel out their neighbors.

Our young men need to be celebrated for their herculaneum effort at helping their neighbirs clear this mess.

It seems very important to you to call out the gender of the people helping. Why is it hard to say “Thanks to the teens who came out and helped the neighborhood!” Include a picture, if the families are ok with that. Why do you think it is important to call out that it was boys?

Just curious here.

Why do people seem to disdain boys so much, to the point they can't even acknowledge them when they do good and vital work for their community?

Posters like this one seem to have no problems calling out boys publicly by gender for every thing wrong in society

I think this issue belongs to a different thread, not this one.

[Anonymous]

If conditions near and on school grounds are bad, they should close.

If conditions are okay near and on school grounds, they can open with the understanding that not every teacher/admin/staff will be able to safely make the trip and many parents may not feel their children can safely get out of neighborhoods and get to school

Again, it is a very large system geographically and numerically and conditions vary. No matter what they decide, someone will be annoyed.

We are still busting up ice on the side street we live on, though hard work earlier in the week means there are bare patches. Ice is melting just the tiniest bit every day with the sun exposure and the patches are growing. Kids could safely walk up to the bus stop (with proper boots of course). Neighbors with 4WD are getting in and out fine driving carefully, so kids can be driven up. The bus can safely drive where it always stops because the road up there is clear and dry. I'm sure there are streets that are much better and much worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If conditions near and on school grounds are bad, they should close.

If conditions are okay near and on school grounds, they can open with the understanding that not every teacher/admin/staff will be able to safely make the trip and many parents may not feel their children can safely get out of neighborhoods and get to school

Again, it is a very large system geographically and numerically and conditions vary. No matter what they decide, someone will be annoyed.

We are still busting up ice on the side street we live on, though hard work earlier in the week means there are bare patches. Ice is melting just the tiniest bit every day with the sun exposure and the patches are growing. Kids could safely walk up to the bus stop (with proper boots of course). Neighbors with 4WD are getting in and out fine driving carefully, so kids can be driven up. The bus can safely drive where it always stops because the road up there is clear and dry. I'm sure there are streets that are much better and much worse.

Well, if they truly are focused on equitable decisions and outcomes, it does matter if some neighborhoods can make it to school and others can’t.

[Anonymous]

Email from our elementary:

"Return to School
We are looking forward to having everyone back in the building on Monday. Snow and ice will still be on the sidewalks and corners as students arrive to and depart from school next week. Please talk to your students about how to safely walk to school or stand patiently at the bus stop. Many parents will be using Kiss & Ride, and we appreciate your patience as the line moves through. Students need to come to school with winter gear (coats, hats, gloves, and long pants) as it will be below freezing every morning next week."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Email from our elementary:

"Return to School
We are looking forward to having everyone back in the building on Monday. Snow and ice will still be on the sidewalks and corners as students arrive to and depart from school next week. Please talk to your students about how to safely walk to school or stand patiently at the bus stop. Many parents will be using Kiss & Ride, and we appreciate your patience as the line moves through. Students need to come to school with winter gear (coats, hats, gloves, and long pants) as it will be below freezing every morning next week."

In other words, call your school board reps and demand they stay closed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Email from our elementary:

"Return to School
We are looking forward to having everyone back in the building on Monday. Snow and ice will still be on the sidewalks and corners as students arrive to and depart from school next week. Please talk to your students about how to safely walk to school or stand patiently at the bus stop. Many parents will be using Kiss & Ride, and we appreciate your patience as the line moves through. Students need to come to school with winter gear (coats, hats, gloves, and long pants) as it will be below freezing every morning next week."

Is that FCPS? Why would your school send a message like that if the county hasn’t publicized its decision yet?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Email from our elementary:

"Return to School
We are looking forward to having everyone back in the building on Monday. Snow and ice will still be on the sidewalks and corners as students arrive to and depart from school next week. Please talk to your students about how to safely walk to school or stand patiently at the bus stop. Many parents will be using Kiss & Ride, and we appreciate your patience as the line moves through. Students need to come to school with winter gear (coats, hats, gloves, and long pants) as it will be below freezing every morning next week."

Rookie principal mistake - don’t announce a decision that hasn’t been made or approved by the district office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Email from our elementary:

"Return to School
We are looking forward to having everyone back in the building on Monday. Snow and ice will still be on the sidewalks and corners as students arrive to and depart from school next week. Please talk to your students about how to safely walk to school or stand patiently at the bus stop. Many parents will be using Kiss & Ride, and we appreciate your patience as the line moves through. Students need to come to school with winter gear (coats, hats, gloves, and long pants) as it will be below freezing every morning next week."

Is that FCPS? Why would your school send a message like that if the county hasn’t publicized its decision yet?

I have friends in APS and they are getting these same types of messages from their principals. None of these districts need to announce anything. The assumption is school is open.

People who think school is closed on Monday are nuts.

Also many of you don't understand the meaning of equity but that's another issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Email from our elementary:

"Return to School
We are looking forward to having everyone back in the building on Monday. Snow and ice will still be on the sidewalks and corners as students arrive to and depart from school next week. Please talk to your students about how to safely walk to school or stand patiently at the bus stop. Many parents will be using Kiss & Ride, and we appreciate your patience as the line moves through. Students need to come to school with winter gear (coats, hats, gloves, and long pants) as it will be below freezing every morning next week."

Is that FCPS? Why would your school send a message like that if the county hasn’t publicized its decision yet?

I have friends in APS and they are getting these same types of messages from their principals. None of these districts need to announce anything. The assumption is school is open.

People who think school is closed on Monday are nuts.

Also many of you don't understand the meaning of equity but that's another issue.

They should absolutely make an announcement even if it’s “Most likely, school will open on Monday.” It would help families who need to know whether to plan child care or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is that FCPS? Why would your school send a message like that if the county hasn’t publicized its decision yet?

Yes, FCPS.

Anonymous wrote:Rookie principal mistake - don’t announce a decision that hasn’t been made or approved by the district office.

Principal has been there over a decade. Not a rookie.

We are going in on Monday, guys. If you aren't comfortable with them walking to the bus stop, figure out how to take them in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is that FCPS? Why would your school send a message like that if the county hasn’t publicized its decision yet?

Yes, FCPS.

Anonymous wrote:Rookie principal mistake - don’t announce a decision that hasn’t been made or approved by the district office.

Principal has been there over a decade. Not a rookie.

We are going in on Monday, guys. If you aren't comfortable with them walking to the bus stop, figure out how to take them in.

Thanks for sharing the info.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really hope they don't open on Monday. We live near Marshall HS, the roads are barely plowed, there is no place to park, let alone walk. I don't know how those school buses will maneuver. Just driving towards route 7 is an adventure of its own. Seriously, FCPS, stay closed on Monday and possibly Tuesday.

There is no point closing on Monday or Tuesday, because the mountains of snow aren't going anywhere. Everyone is just going to have to deal with the situation at hand. This stuff is going to be here until mid-February.

It’s not very helpful to say “deal with it.” You are invalidating the scope of the difficulties some people are facing and will make them angry and recalcitrant by doing so. Recommend some techniques for ice removal, provide contact information for ice removal services. Go out into the community and help those who need help.

Many folks in the county were not prepared for this unprecedented combination of thick ice and a long stretch of very cold weather. In the past, we could rely on time passing and conditions improving. As a result, it feels like it’s “time” to go back school, but if officials make a decision based on a past reality and not the present one, based on what everyone wants (because I do think everyone wants to go back) and not on current conditions and risk assessments, we will regret it.

I don’t want anyone to get hurt. Maybe some schools can open safely, but I am hearing that others can’t, and I am not going to dismiss their problems because they are inconvenient for me.

This storm was discussed for a week leading into it. That was time for people to buy a shovel and salt or sand and get ready for it. We were able to order boots, snowpants, and a sled that arrived on Wednesday. This was well advertised that it was going to be snow then sleet and ice was a risk. While I can imagine some people some how missed the news reports, posts all over social media, and the large scale messaging, pretending that people had no idea what this would be and how to prepare is ridiculous. The federal government closed for Monday on Friday because of how far in advanced this mess was predicted.

People were posting on Sunday asking about buying shovels.

If you have lived here for any period of time, you have a shovel. You maybe needed to get some salt or sand. I know my neighborhood and know that the people whose sidewalks are not clear own shovels and know how to deal with the mess. I know people who grew up in the North East and Midwest who have not touched their sidewalks. It has nothing to do knowledge and everything to deal with not wanting to do the work.

You are reducing the scope of the problem to your own limited perspective and life philosophy. You can get angry at the people who aren’t doing what you think they should be doing or should have done, but that anger is not going to solve any current issues or change the current reality. It will just make you an unpleasant person to be with.

DP. I can’t roll my eyes harder at this response. What perspective and life philosophy are you referring to? The one where you use common sense to prepare for a storm? Stop making excuses for dumb people who don’t pay attention. Next you will say it’s not in some people’s culture to shovel snow and we need to be more tolerant. 🙄

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Email from our elementary:

"Return to School
We are looking forward to having everyone back in the building on Monday. Snow and ice will still be on the sidewalks and corners as students arrive to and depart from school next week. Please talk to your students about how to safely walk to school or stand patiently at the bus stop. Many parents will be using Kiss & Ride, and we appreciate your patience as the line moves through. Students need to come to school with winter gear (coats, hats, gloves, and long pants) as it will be below freezing every morning next week."

Is that FCPS? Why would your school send a message like that if the county hasn’t publicized its decision yet?

Name the school or it didn’t happen (at least not FCPS).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Email from our elementary:

"Return to School
We are looking forward to having everyone back in the building on Monday. Snow and ice will still be on the sidewalks and corners as students arrive to and depart from school next week. Please talk to your students about how to safely walk to school or stand patiently at the bus stop. Many parents will be using Kiss & Ride, and we appreciate your patience as the line moves through. Students need to come to school with winter gear (coats, hats, gloves, and long pants) as it will be below freezing every morning next week."

Is that FCPS? Why would your school send a message like that if the county hasn’t publicized its decision yet?

Name the school or it didn’t happen (at least not FCPS).

I think it would be helpful if you named the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really hope they don't open on Monday. We live near Marshall HS, the roads are barely plowed, there is no place to park, let alone walk. I don't know how those school buses will maneuver. Just driving towards route 7 is an adventure of its own. Seriously, FCPS, stay closed on Monday and possibly Tuesday.

There is no point closing on Monday or Tuesday, because the mountains of snow aren't going anywhere. Everyone is just going to have to deal with the situation at hand. This stuff is going to be here until mid-February.

It’s not very helpful to say “deal with it.” You are invalidating the scope of the difficulties some people are facing and will make them angry and recalcitrant by doing so. Recommend some techniques for ice removal, provide contact information for ice removal services. Go out into the community and help those who need help.

Many folks in the county were not prepared for this unprecedented combination of thick ice and a long stretch of very cold weather. In the past, we could rely on time passing and conditions improving. As a result, it feels like it’s “time” to go back school, but if officials make a decision based on a past reality and not the present one, based on what everyone wants (because I do think everyone wants to go back) and not on current conditions and risk assessments, we will regret it.

I don’t want anyone to get hurt. Maybe some schools can open safely, but I am hearing that others can’t, and I am not going to dismiss their problems because they are inconvenient for me.

This storm was discussed for a week leading into it. That was time for people to buy a shovel and salt or sand and get ready for it. We were able to order boots, snowpants, and a sled that arrived on Wednesday. This was well advertised that it was going to be snow then sleet and ice was a risk. While I can imagine some people some how missed the news reports, posts all over social media, and the large scale messaging, pretending that people had no idea what this would be and how to prepare is ridiculous. The federal government closed for Monday on Friday because of how far in advanced this mess was predicted.

People were posting on Sunday asking about buying shovels.

If you have lived here for any period of time, you have a shovel. You maybe needed to get some salt or sand. I know my neighborhood and know that the people whose sidewalks are not clear own shovels and know how to deal with the mess. I know people who grew up in the North East and Midwest who have not touched their sidewalks. It has nothing to do knowledge and everything to deal with not wanting to do the work.

You are reducing the scope of the problem to your own limited perspective and life philosophy. You can get angry at the people who aren’t doing what you think they should be doing or should have done, but that anger is not going to solve any current issues or change the current reality. It will just make you an unpleasant person to be with.

DP. I can’t roll my eyes harder at this response. What perspective and life philosophy are you referring to? The one where you use common sense to prepare for a storm? Stop making excuses for dumb people who don’t pay attention. Next you will say it’s not in some people’s culture to shovel snow and we need to be more tolerant. 🙄

I hope you aren’t a parent. If you are, I hope you don’t talk this way around your children.