Transgender congressperson calls for practical compromise on transgender policy

[Anonymous]

Let people be their authentic selves. If you’re accusing drag performers, what do you think of impressive scientists like Admiral Rachel Levine? Is she “performing a minstrel show” to you? What about Sarah McBride? Just because these people were assigned male at birth, you’re mad about their hair and makeup and blouses and skirts and panty hose? Stop trying to control others. Is your female-ness threatened by other people aspiring to be more female like you? No. It’s nit movkery, it’s an homage. If you don’t like it, skip the drag brunch (or Admiral Levine’s Vovod briefings, or Sarah McBride’s Congressional speeches).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sarah McBride tells Democrats to stop infighting and stop demanding ideological purity, and stop taking the bait from social conservatives and crushing themselves.


https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2025/03/sarah-mcbride-says-democrats-should-be-more-open-to-opponents-of-trans-rights/

Everyone has to make a sacrifice to get through difficult times.
Changing hearts and minds and social structures and physical facilities takes time.
Compromise on sports. Compromise on bathrooms.
"It's not fair" just isn't a strong enough argument. It's too subjective. Play to win, not be be a righteous loser.
Sometimes the better option is to wait out the old generation, not give them ammo to inflame a new generation. Sometimes you have to be a martyr for your cause, because you can't win by force of will.


Progressives, the goal is to make continual progress, not be rigid absolutists ther ignores the feelings and actual power of opponents. "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. " -MLK

Be good, but be smart.
It's not too late.

Why should basic human rights be subject to any sort of compromise?

Men have a right to use women's changing rooms? Where is that in the bill of rights?

I'm a trans male and if I walked into a women's restroom right now, your wives would freak and kick me out. They'd call the security guards or the police. I may have a vagina and sit to pee, but I'm 100% passing as a male thanks to years of T and top surgery.

When you think of trans people, don't think of men in dresses. Don't think of drag queens. Drag queens are NOT trans. Drag is an art form. Drag is a profession or hobby. It's not a total lifestyle for 99.9% of people. Heck, I know quite a few drag queens who aren't even gay. They just enjoy the art and performance of it all. I know even more drag kings who are not queer.

Very few trans people these days who have been on hormones for 6+ months are not passing as their new gender. After a year on hormones, you can't pick us out from cis individuals.

The no trans in bathrooms/changing rooms doesn't actually hurt trans people because cis people can't actually tell who is trans if they are not some famous trans influencer or advocate from social media. The anti-trans movement actually hurts cis women who do not look traditionally feminine (short hair, broader shoulders, flat-chested) and cis men who do not look traditionally masculine (slim build, longer hair, delicate facial features). Those are the people who are actually getting harassed in bathrooms, not me. I've been peeing in men's rooms, using the men's locker rooms, and using men's changing rooms for decades now. Never had an issue.

Sarah McBride may not be able to use the women's restroom in Congress, but I bet she does everywhere else and guess what? I doubt anyone has ever questioned it or hassled her.

the fact is - nobody really cares (including the right) if a well passing trans person discreetly uses the bathroom of their chosen gender. The issue is things like actively forcing girls and women to be exposed to mentally ill people flashing their penises in the women’s changing room, people who went through male puberty taking sports achievements from women and girls or endangering them, and housing sex offending intact biological males in women’s jails.

I’m more concerned about being exposed to GOP males who want to inspect my and my children’s genitals to make sure we are comporting with their Stone Age world views as to who gets to be treated like human and who gets to be treated like a bangmaid. Why won’t someone protect my interests?

Or, you know, we could use a birth certificate. Which schools already have. And are supposed to be accurate. Like we've been doing for like hundred years.

Your obsession with these fantasy "inspections" just proves you are an unserious person.

PP is not far fetched. The boy scouts have a health form you have to have your doctor fill out that included an inspection of genitals. Our pediatrician refused to fill out that part of the form, and I turned it in blank..

The Boy Scout genital exams aren’t driven by transphobia, but rather by woke enthusiasm.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sarah McBride tells Democrats to stop infighting and stop demanding ideological purity, and stop taking the bait from social conservatives and crushing themselves.


https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2025/03/sarah-mcbride-says-democrats-should-be-more-open-to-opponents-of-trans-rights/

Everyone has to make a sacrifice to get through difficult times.
Changing hearts and minds and social structures and physical facilities takes time.
Compromise on sports. Compromise on bathrooms.
"It's not fair" just isn't a strong enough argument. It's too subjective. Play to win, not be be a righteous loser.
Sometimes the better option is to wait out the old generation, not give them ammo to inflame a new generation. Sometimes you have to be a martyr for your cause, because you can't win by force of will.


Progressives, the goal is to make continual progress, not be rigid absolutists ther ignores the feelings and actual power of opponents. "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. " -MLK

Be good, but be smart.
It's not too late.

Why should basic human rights be subject to any sort of compromise?

Men have a right to use women's changing rooms? Where is that in the bill of rights?

I'm a trans male and if I walked into a women's restroom right now, your wives would freak and kick me out. They'd call the security guards or the police. I may have a vagina and sit to pee, but I'm 100% passing as a male thanks to years of T and top surgery.

When you think of trans people, don't think of men in dresses. Don't think of drag queens. Drag queens are NOT trans. Drag is an art form. Drag is a profession or hobby. It's not a total lifestyle for 99.9% of people. Heck, I know quite a few drag queens who aren't even gay. They just enjoy the art and performance of it all. I know even more drag kings who are not queer.

Very few trans people these days who have been on hormones for 6+ months are not passing as their new gender. After a year on hormones, you can't pick us out from cis individuals.

The no trans in bathrooms/changing rooms doesn't actually hurt trans people because cis people can't actually tell who is trans if they are not some famous trans influencer or advocate from social media. The anti-trans movement actually hurts cis women who do not look traditionally feminine (short hair, broader shoulders, flat-chested) and cis men who do not look traditionally masculine (slim build, longer hair, delicate facial features). Those are the people who are actually getting harassed in bathrooms, not me. I've been peeing in men's rooms, using the men's locker rooms, and using men's changing rooms for decades now. Never had an issue.

Sarah McBride may not be able to use the women's restroom in Congress, but I bet she does everywhere else and guess what? I doubt anyone has ever questioned it or hassled her.

Drag is a product of women’s historical oppression. It is when a member of the privileged group appropriates members of a historically and currently oppressed group for entertainment purposes.

You wouldn’t call black face an art form.

+1

I find the continued defense of drag from people who believe themselves to be non-sexist absolutely baffling. It is of course minstrelism and will be seen with the same horror in fifty years that blackface is now.

Would you say that to Admiral Rachel Levine? Or to Caitlyn Jenner? Or to Sarah McBride? Would you deny people the right to choose their own hairstyles? And clothes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sarah McBride tells Democrats to stop infighting and stop demanding ideological purity, and stop taking the bait from social conservatives and crushing themselves.


https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2025/03/sarah-mcbride-says-democrats-should-be-more-open-to-opponents-of-trans-rights/

Everyone has to make a sacrifice to get through difficult times.
Changing hearts and minds and social structures and physical facilities takes time.
Compromise on sports. Compromise on bathrooms.
"It's not fair" just isn't a strong enough argument. It's too subjective. Play to win, not be be a righteous loser.
Sometimes the better option is to wait out the old generation, not give them ammo to inflame a new generation. Sometimes you have to be a martyr for your cause, because you can't win by force of will.


Progressives, the goal is to make continual progress, not be rigid absolutists ther ignores the feelings and actual power of opponents. "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. " -MLK

Be good, but be smart.
It's not too late.

Why should basic human rights be subject to any sort of compromise?

Men have a right to use women's changing rooms? Where is that in the bill of rights?

I'm a trans male and if I walked into a women's restroom right now, your wives would freak and kick me out. They'd call the security guards or the police. I may have a vagina and sit to pee, but I'm 100% passing as a male thanks to years of T and top surgery.

When you think of trans people, don't think of men in dresses. Don't think of drag queens. Drag queens are NOT trans. Drag is an art form. Drag is a profession or hobby. It's not a total lifestyle for 99.9% of people. Heck, I know quite a few drag queens who aren't even gay. They just enjoy the art and performance of it all. I know even more drag kings who are not queer.

Very few trans people these days who have been on hormones for 6+ months are not passing as their new gender. After a year on hormones, you can't pick us out from cis individuals.

The no trans in bathrooms/changing rooms doesn't actually hurt trans people because cis people can't actually tell who is trans if they are not some famous trans influencer or advocate from social media. The anti-trans movement actually hurts cis women who do not look traditionally feminine (short hair, broader shoulders, flat-chested) and cis men who do not look traditionally masculine (slim build, longer hair, delicate facial features). Those are the people who are actually getting harassed in bathrooms, not me. I've been peeing in men's rooms, using the men's locker rooms, and using men's changing rooms for decades now. Never had an issue.

Sarah McBride may not be able to use the women's restroom in Congress, but I bet she does everywhere else and guess what? I doubt anyone has ever questioned it or hassled her.

the fact is - nobody really cares (including the right) if a well passing trans person discreetly uses the bathroom of their chosen gender. The issue is things like actively forcing girls and women to be exposed to mentally ill people flashing their penises in the women’s changing room, people who went through male puberty taking sports achievements from women and girls or endangering them, and housing sex offending intact biological males in women’s jails.

I’m more concerned about being exposed to GOP males who want to inspect my and my children’s genitals to make sure we are comporting with their Stone Age world views as to who gets to be treated like human and who gets to be treated like a bangmaid. Why won’t someone protect my interests?

Humans can detect a persons sex with a quick glance, it is essential for perpetuating the species.

No one is checking genitalia, but you know this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There should be a category in sports for transgender athletes

This. Like a new category in the special olympics or the paraolympic games.

Trans folks are differently abled

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let people be their authentic selves. If you’re accusing drag performers, what do you think of impressive scientists like Admiral Rachel Levine? Is she “performing a minstrel show” to you? What about Sarah McBride? Just because these people were assigned male at birth, you’re mad about their hair and makeup and blouses and skirts and panty hose? Stop trying to control others. Is your female-ness threatened by other people aspiring to be more female like you? No. It’s nit movkery, it’s an homage. If you don’t like it, skip the drag brunch (or Admiral Levine’s Vovod briefings, or Sarah McBride’s Congressional speeches).

So a kid putting on blackface and a fro to pay homage to Michael Jackson on Halloween is A-Okay.

It’s only hair and make-up right?

[Anonymous]

Would you allow post-op trans folks to wear women’s clothes? Is that where you’d draw the line. No blouses with balls. Suits until sutures?

[Anonymous]

The trans person who was allowed to compete in a woman's race in Oregon is not a woman. Unfair, absurd advantage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sarah McBride tells Democrats to stop infighting and stop demanding ideological purity, and stop taking the bait from social conservatives and crushing themselves.


https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2025/03/sarah-mcbride-says-democrats-should-be-more-open-to-opponents-of-trans-rights/

Everyone has to make a sacrifice to get through difficult times.
Changing hearts and minds and social structures and physical facilities takes time.
Compromise on sports. Compromise on bathrooms.
"It's not fair" just isn't a strong enough argument. It's too subjective. Play to win, not be be a righteous loser.
Sometimes the better option is to wait out the old generation, not give them ammo to inflame a new generation. Sometimes you have to be a martyr for your cause, because you can't win by force of will.


Progressives, the goal is to make continual progress, not be rigid absolutists ther ignores the feelings and actual power of opponents. "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. " -MLK

Be good, but be smart.
It's not too late.

Why should basic human rights be subject to any sort of compromise?

Men have a right to use women's changing rooms? Where is that in the bill of rights?

I'm a trans male and if I walked into a women's restroom right now, your wives would freak and kick me out. They'd call the security guards or the police. I may have a vagina and sit to pee, but I'm 100% passing as a male thanks to years of T and top surgery.

When you think of trans people, don't think of men in dresses. Don't think of drag queens. Drag queens are NOT trans. Drag is an art form. Drag is a profession or hobby. It's not a total lifestyle for 99.9% of people. Heck, I know quite a few drag queens who aren't even gay. They just enjoy the art and performance of it all. I know even more drag kings who are not queer.

Very few trans people these days who have been on hormones for 6+ months are not passing as their new gender. After a year on hormones, you can't pick us out from cis individuals.

The no trans in bathrooms/changing rooms doesn't actually hurt trans people because cis people can't actually tell who is trans if they are not some famous trans influencer or advocate from social media. The anti-trans movement actually hurts cis women who do not look traditionally feminine (short hair, broader shoulders, flat-chested) and cis men who do not look traditionally masculine (slim build, longer hair, delicate facial features). Those are the people who are actually getting harassed in bathrooms, not me. I've been peeing in men's rooms, using the men's locker rooms, and using men's changing rooms for decades now. Never had an issue.

Sarah McBride may not be able to use the women's restroom in Congress, but I bet she does everywhere else and guess what? I doubt anyone has ever questioned it or hassled her.

Drag is a product of women’s historical oppression. It is when a member of the privileged group appropriates members of a historically and currently oppressed group for entertainment purposes.

You wouldn’t call black face an art form.

+ a googol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Would you allow post-op trans folks to wear women’s clothes? Is that where you’d draw the line. No blouses with balls. Suits until sutures?

So ridiculous.

Men can wear whatever they want.

Wearing a skirt and lipstick doesn’t make one a woman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sarah McBride tells Democrats to stop infighting and stop demanding ideological purity, and stop taking the bait from social conservatives and crushing themselves.


https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2025/03/sarah-mcbride-says-democrats-should-be-more-open-to-opponents-of-trans-rights/

Everyone has to make a sacrifice to get through difficult times.
Changing hearts and minds and social structures and physical facilities takes time.
Compromise on sports. Compromise on bathrooms.
"It's not fair" just isn't a strong enough argument. It's too subjective. Play to win, not be be a righteous loser.
Sometimes the better option is to wait out the old generation, not give them ammo to inflame a new generation. Sometimes you have to be a martyr for your cause, because you can't win by force of will.


Progressives, the goal is to make continual progress, not be rigid absolutists ther ignores the feelings and actual power of opponents. "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. " -MLK

Be good, but be smart.
It's not too late.

Why should basic human rights be subject to any sort of compromise?

Men have a right to use women's changing rooms? Where is that in the bill of rights?

I'm a trans male and if I walked into a women's restroom right now, your wives would freak and kick me out. They'd call the security guards or the police. I may have a vagina and sit to pee, but I'm 100% passing as a male thanks to years of T and top surgery.

When you think of trans people, don't think of men in dresses. Don't think of drag queens. Drag queens are NOT trans. Drag is an art form. Drag is a profession or hobby. It's not a total lifestyle for 99.9% of people. Heck, I know quite a few drag queens who aren't even gay. They just enjoy the art and performance of it all. I know even more drag kings who are not queer.

Very few trans people these days who have been on hormones for 6+ months are not passing as their new gender. After a year on hormones, you can't pick us out from cis individuals.

The no trans in bathrooms/changing rooms doesn't actually hurt trans people because cis people can't actually tell who is trans if they are not some famous trans influencer or advocate from social media. The anti-trans movement actually hurts cis women who do not look traditionally feminine (short hair, broader shoulders, flat-chested) and cis men who do not look traditionally masculine (slim build, longer hair, delicate facial features). Those are the people who are actually getting harassed in bathrooms, not me. I've been peeing in men's rooms, using the men's locker rooms, and using men's changing rooms for decades now. Never had an issue.

Sarah McBride may not be able to use the women's restroom in Congress, but I bet she does everywhere else and guess what? I doubt anyone has ever questioned it or hassled her.

Drag is a product of women’s historical oppression. It is when a member of the privileged group appropriates members of a historically and currently oppressed group for entertainment purposes.

You wouldn’t call black face an art form.

+1

I find the continued defense of drag from people who believe themselves to be non-sexist absolutely baffling. It is of course minstrelism and will be seen with the same horror in fifty years that blackface is now.

Would you say that to Admiral Rachel Levine? Or to Caitlyn Jenner? Or to Sarah McBride? Would you deny people the right to choose their own hairstyles? And clothes?

Be serious.

Wearing gender nonconforming hairstyles isn’t the same thing as appropriating biological sexual characteristics through pharmacological intervention and surgical procedures.

If these people wore skirts and makeup they would be eccentric. David Bowie and Axel Rose did this for years. Clearly they are doing something different by pretending to be women and demanding we do the same.

[Anonymous]

Arguably getting fake boobs and demanding to be taken seriously as a woman all day every day is more offensive than a mere drag show

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would you allow post-op trans folks to wear women’s clothes? Is that where you’d draw the line. No blouses with balls. Suits until sutures?

So ridiculous.

Men can wear whatever they want.

Wearing a skirt and lipstick doesn’t make one a woman.

I think being a woman would entail first being a human and a lot of the deranged sociopathic people on the right aren't even demonstrating their humanity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The trans person who was allowed to compete in a woman's race in Oregon is not a woman. Unfair, absurd advantage.

And surprise, surprise! That trans person beat the true female high school students in that race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sarah McBride tells Democrats to stop infighting and stop demanding ideological purity, and stop taking the bait from social conservatives and crushing themselves.


https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2025/03/sarah-mcbride-says-democrats-should-be-more-open-to-opponents-of-trans-rights/

Everyone has to make a sacrifice to get through difficult times.
Changing hearts and minds and social structures and physical facilities takes time.
Compromise on sports. Compromise on bathrooms.
"It's not fair" just isn't a strong enough argument. It's too subjective. Play to win, not be be a righteous loser.
Sometimes the better option is to wait out the old generation, not give them ammo to inflame a new generation. Sometimes you have to be a martyr for your cause, because you can't win by force of will.


Progressives, the goal is to make continual progress, not be rigid absolutists ther ignores the feelings and actual power of opponents. "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. " -MLK

Be good, but be smart.
It's not too late.

Gen Z is far more conservative on this issue than the Millennials.

Not IME. Gen Z grew up around this.