Is Barnard the same as Columbia?

[Anonymous]

In typical DCUM fashion, this thread has veered off into talking about something else

[Anonymous]

Columbia isn't even a real Ivy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Columbia isn't even a real Ivy.

What, pray tell, is a “real” Ivy then? And who appointed you guardian of what is and isn’t an Ivy League college? The funny thing about universities is, they don’t need you to define their missions for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Columbia isn't even a real Ivy.

Hey kid, there are threads for under 14 somewhere. Google is your friend.

[Anonymous]

Columbia is the best university in the world, by 1 million miles. If u want your kids to become a commie, the most admirable people in the world who care the most about absolute equality, where do u send your kids? Columbia!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Columbia is the best university in the world, by 1 million miles. If u want your kids to become a commie, the most admirable people in the world who care the most about absolute equality, where do u send your kids? Columbia!

Don't come back until you get your dumb kid in first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Columbia isn't even a real Ivy.

What, pray tell, is a “real” Ivy then? And who appointed you guardian of what is and isn’t an Ivy League college? The funny thing about universities is, they don’t need you to define their missions for them.

Cornell — the public Ivy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Columbia is for tools that didn’t get into Princeton.

Reality: Columbia and Barnard are both fine schools. Neither one is Harvard or Stanford.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Columbia is for tools that didn’t get into Princeton.

Reality: Columbia and Barnard are both fine schools. Neither one is Harvard or Stanford.

Columbia is Columbia. Harvard or Stanford aren't absolutely better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Columbia is the best university in the world, by 1 million miles. If u want your kids to become a commie, the most admirable people in the world who care the most about absolute equality, where do u send your kids? Columbia!

Don't come back until you get your dumb kid in first.

You grew up in Shanidar. You are not an idiot if you understand what Shanidar means without googling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Columbia is for tools that didn’t get into Princeton.

Reality: Columbia and Barnard are both fine schools. Neither one is Harvard or Stanford.

Not sure what that means.
Columbia is Columbia. It ain’t Harvard or Stanford or 10,000 other schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Columbia isn't even a real Ivy.

What, pray tell, is a “real” Ivy then? And who appointed you guardian of what is and isn’t an Ivy League college? The funny thing about universities is, they don’t need you to define their missions for them.

All of them except Columbia. Columbia has little cachet and doesn’t offer the same kind on campus experience and traditions the other Ivies offer. It is also full of weirdo neurotic striver kids and spooks in training. Make of that what you will.

[Anonymous]

The Ivy League is an athletic conference. It does’t imply they have a lot of academic similarities. Anymore than Stanford has a lot in common with Arizona State or Oregon State, or Vanderbilt has much in common with, well, any of the rest of the SEC, or Northwestern has much in common with University of Nebraska. Or that Wake Forest has in common with Syracuse. I’d say there a dozen non-Ivies that have more in common with Princeton than 3/4 of the Ivies do. Buying into the Ivy brand is toxic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you apply to Barnard and Columbia.
Rejected by Columbia but got in Barnard.

You still claim Columbia.
That's a fraud.

60% of Barnard admits were ED. You don’t even know what you’re talking about.

Most girls come in to Barnard very “Barnard-focused”. But once you get there it becomes harder to distinguish. Sororities are joint, many extra curriculars are joint, sports etc. dining halls and libraries are open to both. So depending on your activities and classes you can end up feeling like it’s one and the same. My DD friend group is a mix and I don’t know who is Barnard and who is Columbia.

FWIW my DD is a Columbia legacy but only applied to Barnard (ED) because she likes the campus, dorms and class sizes better. My DH went to Columbia and feels like she’s attending his school. When he talks about his “classmates” some are Barnard grads.

So no, Barnard and Columbia are not the same, but it is a unique relationship that is hard to understand if you don’t go there.

Thank you. I was trying to understand this very thing and others here attacked me for asking. Thanks to you, and a few others, I get it now.

OP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^^ also, Barnard grads tend to do well professionally but Anna Quindlen is like their shining star alum.

There's also Carol Dweck, who is now a Stanford psychology professor, TED speaker, author, etc.