Is Barnard the same as Columbia?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:They may just be adding Columbia to Barnard to avoid all the questions about "what is Barnard"?


There are many many LACs that people don't know about.

Just say it's an all women LAC in NYC.





You remind me of one of my kids when they were like 4yrs old - they would think a few steps ahead and predict a conversation in advance and then want to tell others what they were "supposed to have said".

Are you really THAT concerned with exactly what an 18yr old freshman is using to identify her college?


Of course you would be concerned if you are a graduate of "Columbia proper". It's human nature unless you are not a human.


And yet - there are Columbia proper folks who weighted in and were not concerned.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:It is interesting that in the 1980s Columbia had a 65% admit rate while Barnard had a 50% admit rate. NO ONE wanted to go to college in Harlem (really Morningside Heights).

Anyway, Barnard was/is still the easier admit. Sister went there back then, she never could have swung an Ivy acceptance but my whole family referred to it as Ivy/Columbia just to make her feel better and bc I was at an Ivy.

It’s a good school that is just outside Ivy caliber. Diploma says BC of CU.

The actual school is across Broadway so not inside the Columbia quad fyi.


Gee, it's across the street that takes all of 10 seconds to cross. Barnard is physically small because they share the entire campus with the rest of Columbia. Barnard does have a nice, modern library that many CU kids use. Not sure it's outside ivy caliber cuz Barnard, Wellesley, and many 7 sisters are definitely preferable to Cornell that PP went.


I would personally pick Cornell over Barnard and Wellesley. It is way tougher than either Barnard or Wellesley


Same, and I am the PP who this idiot poster thinks went to Cornell. I didn’t.
Anonymous
This article in the NYT about Columbia and using a Barnard student as an example reminded me of this thread. Clearly the NYT is placing this Barnard student into the Columbia bucket....so one can see how the student OP is referring to might do so also.... (not adding this to comment or stir up the protest discussion on the middle east politics mess)


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/28/business/columbia-campus-protests-graduation.html
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This article in the NYT about Columbia and using a Barnard student as an example reminded me of this thread. Clearly the NYT is placing this Barnard student into the Columbia bucket....so one can see how the student OP is referring to might do so also.... (not adding this to comment or stir up the protest discussion on the middle east politics mess)


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/28/business/columbia-campus-protests-graduation.html


You must be a Barnard parent, or student.

If you are so happy with Barnard losing its own identity, why not go directly to Columbia.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This article in the NYT about Columbia and using a Barnard student as an example reminded me of this thread. Clearly the NYT is placing this Barnard student into the Columbia bucket....so one can see how the student OP is referring to might do so also.... (not adding this to comment or stir up the protest discussion on the middle east politics mess)


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/28/business/columbia-campus-protests-graduation.html


You must be a Barnard parent, or student.

If you are so happy with Barnard losing its own identity, why not go directly to Columbia.


I’m not the PP but my daughter is a Columbia legacy but preferred Barnard…the campus is more “closed”, the dorms, the class offerings and options to do as much or as little at Columbia as you choose. She also preferred the sense of community and focus on undergraduate teaching at Barnard v Columbia.

FWIW, her Columbia grad dad feels like she goes to his school. My daughter does not say she goes to Columbia, she chose Barnard for many reasons and is proud to say so. That said, the schools truly cooperate as one and Columbia students to consider Barnard to be part of the Columbia umbrella. The people pushing this debate don’t seem to know much about the schools at all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This article in the NYT about Columbia and using a Barnard student as an example reminded me of this thread. Clearly the NYT is placing this Barnard student into the Columbia bucket....so one can see how the student OP is referring to might do so also.... (not adding this to comment or stir up the protest discussion on the middle east politics mess)


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/28/business/columbia-campus-protests-graduation.html


You must be a Barnard parent, or student.

If you are so happy with Barnard losing its own identity, why not go directly to Columbia.


I’m not the PP but my daughter is a Columbia legacy but preferred Barnard…the campus is more “closed”, the dorms, the class offerings and options to do as much or as little at Columbia as you choose. She also preferred the sense of community and focus on undergraduate teaching at Barnard v Columbia.

FWIW, her Columbia grad dad feels like she goes to his school. My daughter does not say she goes to Columbia, she chose Barnard for many reasons and is proud to say so. That said, the schools truly cooperate as one and Columbia students to consider Barnard to be part of the Columbia umbrella. The people pushing this debate don’t seem to know much about the schools at all.


So your daughter chooses Barnard, and then tells people she attended Columbia.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Columbia is for tools that didn’t get into Princeton.


Princeton is for tools that didn’t get into Northwestern.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Columbia isn't even a real Ivy.


Fake or no, it’s known as one of the weakest Ivies. That’s fine as long as expectations are realistic. Students who expect a HYPSM level experience or job outcomes are usually disappointed.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Columbia isn't even a real Ivy.


Fake or no, it’s known as one of the weakest Ivies. That’s fine as long as expectations are realistic. Students who expect a HYPSM level experience or job outcomes are usually disappointed.


One of the weakest Ivies? What are other weakest ivies? Princeton and Penn?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Columbia isn't even a real Ivy.


Fake or no, it’s known as one of the weakest Ivies. That’s fine as long as expectations are realistic. Students who expect a HYPSM level experience or job outcomes are usually disappointed.


One of the weakest Ivies? What are other weakest ivies? Princeton and Penn?


Cornell and Columbia are the weakest Ivies. Throwing a tantrum won't change that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Columbia isn't even a real Ivy.


Fake or no, it’s known as one of the weakest Ivies. That’s fine as long as expectations are realistic. Students who expect a HYPSM level experience or job outcomes are usually disappointed.


One of the weakest Ivies? What are other weakest ivies? Princeton and Penn?


Cornell and Columbia are the weakest Ivies. Throwing a tantrum won't change that.


No matter how weak you wish them to be, they are still the real Ivies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This article in the NYT about Columbia and using a Barnard student as an example reminded me of this thread. Clearly the NYT is placing this Barnard student into the Columbia bucket....so one can see how the student OP is referring to might do so also.... (not adding this to comment or stir up the protest discussion on the middle east politics mess)


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/28/business/columbia-campus-protests-graduation.html


You must be a Barnard parent, or student.

If you are so happy with Barnard losing its own identity, why not go directly to Columbia.


I’m not the PP but my daughter is a Columbia legacy but preferred Barnard…the campus is more “closed”, the dorms, the class offerings and options to do as much or as little at Columbia as you choose. She also preferred the sense of community and focus on undergraduate teaching at Barnard v Columbia.

FWIW, her Columbia grad dad feels like she goes to his school. My daughter does not say she goes to Columbia, she chose Barnard for many reasons and is proud to say so. That said, the schools truly cooperate as one and Columbia students to consider Barnard to be part of the Columbia umbrella. The people pushing this debate don’t seem to know much about the schools at all.


So your daughter chooses Barnard, and then tells people she attended Columbia.


What? cAn you read? I said the opposite dumbass.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This article in the NYT about Columbia and using a Barnard student as an example reminded me of this thread. Clearly the NYT is placing this Barnard student into the Columbia bucket....so one can see how the student OP is referring to might do so also.... (not adding this to comment or stir up the protest discussion on the middle east politics mess)


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/28/business/columbia-campus-protests-graduation.html


You must be a Barnard parent, or student.

If you are so happy with Barnard losing its own identity, why not go directly to Columbia.


I’m not the PP but my daughter is a Columbia legacy but preferred Barnard…the campus is more “closed”, the dorms, the class offerings and options to do as much or as little at Columbia as you choose. She also preferred the sense of community and focus on undergraduate teaching at Barnard v Columbia.

FWIW, her Columbia grad dad feels like she goes to his school. My daughter does not say she goes to Columbia, she chose Barnard for many reasons and is proud to say so. That said, the schools truly cooperate as one and Columbia students to consider Barnard to be part of the Columbia umbrella. The people pushing this debate don’t seem to know much about the schools at all.


So your daughter chooses Barnard, and then tells people she attended Columbia.


Not only did I NOT say that, I will add...she can say whatever tf she and the other students and University community want. You need to get a life. Why do you care so much about other people's lives, you're miserable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This article in the NYT about Columbia and using a Barnard student as an example reminded me of this thread. Clearly the NYT is placing this Barnard student into the Columbia bucket....so one can see how the student OP is referring to might do so also.... (not adding this to comment or stir up the protest discussion on the middle east politics mess)


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/28/business/columbia-campus-protests-graduation.html


You must be a Barnard parent, or student.

If you are so happy with Barnard losing its own identity, why not go directly to Columbia.


I’m not the PP but my daughter is a Columbia legacy but preferred Barnard…the campus is more “closed”, the dorms, the class offerings and options to do as much or as little at Columbia as you choose. She also preferred the sense of community and focus on undergraduate teaching at Barnard v Columbia.

FWIW, her Columbia grad dad feels like she goes to his school. My daughter does not say she goes to Columbia, she chose Barnard for many reasons and is proud to say so. That said, the schools truly cooperate as one and Columbia students to consider Barnard to be part of the Columbia umbrella. The people pushing this debate don’t seem to know much about the schools at all.


So your daughter chooses Barnard, and then tells people she attended Columbia.


Not only did I NOT say that, I will add...she can say whatever tf she and the other students and University community want. You need to get a life. Why do you care so much about other people's lives, you're miserable.


NP. Don’t take it seriously. The college forum on DCUM is mostly worthless, as a high percentage of the posts are from people with an axe to grind when it comes to a particular school. And the more prestigious the school, the bigger the axe gets.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Columbia isn't even a real Ivy.


Fake or no, it’s known as one of the weakest Ivies. That’s fine as long as expectations are realistic. Students who expect a HYPSM level experience or job outcomes are usually disappointed.


One of the weakest Ivies? What are other weakest ivies? Princeton and Penn?


Cornell and Columbia are the weakest Ivies. Throwing a tantrum won't change that.


You are the one throwing a tantrum here. Distort the truth does not help you.
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