| Women are still victims. |
How is recognizing a bada$$ mom doing bada$$ feminist things "trolling"? |
<sigh> You, clearly, didn't read the articles because they contradict your assertions. Headline of the first link: Young women are out-earning young men in several U.S. cities First 3 sentences: Women in the United States continue to earn less than men, on average. Among full-time, year-round workers in 2019, women’s median annual earnings were 82% those of men. The gender wage gap is narrower among younger workers nationally, and the gap varies across geographical areas. In fact, in 22 of 250 U.S. metropolitan areas, women under the age of 30 earn the same amount as or more than their male counterparts, according to a new Pew Research Center analysis of Census Bureau data. In other words, in 8.8% of the 250 metro areas assessed, women under the age of 30 earned the same amount as or more than their male counterparts. Headline of the second link: In almost half of opposite-sex marriages in the U.S., women are now earning the same as their husbands — or out-earning them, by an average of $53,000. Although men are still the breadwinners in most households, the share of women making just as much or more than their husbands has nearly tripled in the last 50 years, a new Pew Research Center survey has found. Spouses are earning the same income in nearly one-third, or 29%, of opposite-sex marriages, a significant jump from just 11% in 1972. In egalitarian marriages, men and women's earnings are almost identical: In 2022, the median earnings for wives in such marriages was $60,000, while husbands earned $62,000. Headline of the third link: More Wives Now Outearn Their Husbands. They Also Stay Together Longer. The share of marriages with women breadwinners tripled over the last 50 years Note that 'more' does not mean 'most'. There's a paywall so I couldn't read the article but I was able to see the sentence: Marriages in which wives outearn their husbands are not only more common, but less likely to end in divorce than in the past. Couples married in the late 1960s and 1970s were 70% more likely to divorce when wives earned the same or slightly more than their husbands compared with couples where the husband earned more, according to research from Christine Schwartz and Pilar Gonalons-Pons, sociologists at the University of Wisconsin-Madison and the University of Pennsylvania, respectively. For couples married in the 1990s, however, the divorce rate for those with female breadwinners had fallen to 4% higher than male breadwinners. I think it's fairly safe to say the men in marriages where women make more likely feminists and their marriages better. |
You tolerate a higher risk level than many highly educated women, including myself. I've never believed that a man is a plan, which as crude as it sounds, is actually the case for women like you who rely upon a husband's income for food, shelter, health benefits, etc. And you don't need to worry just in the case of divorce, it's also in the case of DH's disability and death. I suppose you are relying upon DH's insurance in the latter cases. I'm guessing I'm also older than you, so I've seen a fair share of gray divorces, illness, and death of spouses. |
That’s what they all say, until they come sobbing on the Relationship Forum that wonderful husband is cheating or wants to divorce. |
I am late 40’s. We have investments and more than enough life insurance in case of disability or death. That is part of being irresponsible in any relationship. What additional risk am I taking? Having a man wasn’t the “plan”. Our relationship dynamics are what works for our family and our relationship. I don’t rely on my husband for shelter or food. We have both contributed in different ways and share everything equally. When I worked and if I went back to work, the money would still end up in the same pot, so nothing would really be different as far as access to money. I am not imprisoned or trapped in any way. Actually quite the opposite and I have a ton of freedom and pretty much do what I want when I want. Much more so than my friends with their careers. I also don’t know what your comment about education has to do with anything. You know, nothing about my education or my career prior to meeting my husband. I know plenty of hiighly, educated, stupid people. |
| My husband isn't afraid of or unwilling to do "non-masculine" things, such as: wearing pink or other colors, cooking, watching reality tv with me, crafts, "letting" me drive the atv or moped on vacation while he sits passenger, "letting" me handle contractors/home maintenance. We each still lean into more traditional male/female tasks and roles, but are able and willing to flex. HE isn't going to sign up for a craft workshop but he's totally willing to come with me and participate. |
| I always thought feminist hate men? |
Not going to happen. But if it did, financially, I would be fine. |
Sorry, but your contributions to home life while benefiting your family in immaterial ways, are not the same as a financial contribution to the family bank account, retirement savings, or an investment in your career should you ever want or need to go back. And a man did end becoming your plan, even if it didn’t start off that way. |
Because women are never blindsided by an affair or divorce. Ever. |
Yes, yes by all means continue to bore us with you relationship woes. I notice all the career women who are so contented with their situations all over these forums. They get to be overworked, exhausted and miserable their whole lives. How exciting. |
And SAHMs never ever feel overworked, exhausted, and miserable. They also never suffer from anxiety or depression. They never self-medicate with alcohol or drugs. And they are never under-appreciated. And lest I forget, all DCUM SAHMs are independently wealthy and can jump right back into the workforce making $350K/year. How perfect. |
Lol what |
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I'm making some assumptions on political / economic views...
For wives who advocate for financial independence from husbands: Why is willful financial dependency bad in a marriage relationship but forced (via taxation) financial dependency good when done through wealth distribution programs? |