What distinguishes an "average woman" from an "above average" woman for dating and marriage

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What I see after many years in this area at least at my children’s Big 3 private school is most couples seem to both be from the same socio economic and educational background. Seems like people want to stick with their kind. I do not see any couples, for example, where the guy is an ivy educated Wasp and she’s just a very nice and pretty girl from the Bronx.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm short but that's never kept me out of the running. All my bf's have been over 6'2"

Tall men like little women.

Until they have short sons. The keening and wailing about short sons in this site. People seem not to understand DNA.

The smart ones know little women mean much shorter sons.

No the dads height cancels that out. Tall men and short women getting together is biological

I know lots of 6 foot plus guys married to the 5-2 or 5-3 woman. The sons usually don’t even hit 6 feet. The husbands height does not cancel it out. They have sons shorter than they are, on average. Of course there are exceptions.

So common. Dad is 6-2, mom is 5-2. Everyone is shocked son is 5-8. It’s not shocking.

It is to me. My brother is 6’2 or 3, wife maybe 5’3 on a good day. Son is already 6 feet at 14. My brother wasn’t anywhere close to that tall at that age.
And no, his wife’s family is not tall.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve seen people on here reference “well-educated” several times as a trait of above average value women but what does that mean? College? Some grad school? JD or MBA? Does where you went to school matter at all?

I consider well educated as degrees that are somewhat prestigious like a JD from Yale or masters from Harvard.

I would not describe someone as well educated if she went to a large state school and majored in communications. There is absolutely nothing wrong with going to a big state school but it is not someone I would describe as well educated.

So UVA grads are not well educated to you?

It really depends on your audience. I consider well educated someone who has advanced degrees like a phd, md, jd, etc. DH and I have 13 years of grad school education between us. My dad has two masters and a phd.

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I’m a somewhat traditional man and I value women with traditional qualities. No tattoos, no weird hair colors, no sleeping around (high body count), no drug use. I’m fine if she works and has a career, I’m fine with feminists as long as she’s not a rabid man hater. I’m fine with helping out around the house and doing domestic chores. I just like women who are pleasant, act feminine, take care of themselves, and aren’t nasty looking or acting.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve seen people on here reference “well-educated” several times as a trait of above average value women but what does that mean? College? Some grad school? JD or MBA? Does where you went to school matter at all?

Well, elite college undergrad with a finance or consulting job would be considered as, more or less "well-educated" as a PhD from a state school?

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Anonymous wrote:I had a lot of high quality suitors when I was single and in my twenties.

I am naturally thin with large breasts. I have a pretty face, nice legs and great hair. I’m ivy educated. I always look polished. I wasn’t the prettiest but I was able to attract and more importantly keep the guys. I’m pleasant and a good conversationalist.

So if you are pretty, nice figure, smart and well educated, you are a good catch.

Humble much?

This Lorax h has posted before. 🤮

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Anonymous wrote:I had a lot of high quality suitors when I was single and in my twenties.

I am naturally thin with large breasts. I have a pretty face, nice legs and great hair. I’m ivy educated. I always look polished. I wasn’t the prettiest but I was able to attract and more importantly keep the guys. I’m pleasant and a good conversationalist.

So if you are pretty, nice figure, smart and well educated, you are a good catch.

All of those are important, but I'd prefer a state university gal over ivy educated.

Why? Intimidated by women's intelligence or success?

You sound lovely. Plenty of intelligent and successful people go to state schools.

[Anonymous]

Same for a woman. Combination of looks, motivation, independence, work ethic and devotion to other person Each factor is both defined and weighed differently depending on who is doing the evaluation.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve seen people on here reference “well-educated” several times as a trait of above average value women but what does that mean? College? Some grad school? JD or MBA? Does where you went to school matter at all?

I consider well educated as degrees that are somewhat prestigious like a JD from Yale or masters from Harvard.

I would not describe someone as well educated if she went to a large state school and majored in communications. There is absolutely nothing wrong with going to a big state school but it is not someone I would describe as well educated.

So UVA grads are not well educated to you?

Correct. An average education.

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[Anonymous]

Smart, pretty and nice. that is what most men want. Problem is that they will want top 20% and that leaves the remaining 80%.

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Anonymous wrote:Same for a woman. Combination of looks, motivation, independence, work ethic and devotion to other person Each factor is both defined and weighed differently depending on who is doing the evaluation.

Most women will accept an average looking man. Most men will not go for someone he is not instantly attracted to.

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Anonymous wrote:Smart, pretty and nice. that is what most men want. Problem is that they will want top 20% and that leaves the remaining 80%.

No, but thanks for totally ignoring the majority of men who don’t resemble _your_ prince. “Absolutely every man passes me over! Oh them? They don’t count.”

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Anonymous wrote:Smart, pretty and nice. that is what most men want. Problem is that they will want top 20% and that leaves the remaining 80%.

No, but thanks for totally ignoring the majority of men who don’t resemble _your_ prince. “Absolutely every man passes me over! Oh them? They don’t count.”

Are there men out there who want someone ugly, stupid and mean?

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Anonymous wrote:I had a lot of high quality suitors when I was single and in my twenties.

I am naturally thin with large breasts. I have a pretty face, nice legs and great hair. I’m ivy educated. I always look polished. I wasn’t the prettiest but I was able to attract and more importantly keep the guys. I’m pleasant and a good conversationalist.

So if you are pretty, nice figure, smart and well educated, you are a good catch.

All of those are important, but I'd prefer a state university gal over ivy educated.

Why? Intimidated by women's intelligence or success?

You sound lovely. Plenty of intelligent and successful people go to state schools.

Really depends on where you live. I’m from NY and went to school in Boston. In Boston, I mostly met people from Harvard, MIT, Tufts and occasionally BU and BC. I worked in NYC after graduation and was surrounded by people from elite schools.

I have never lived in Texas or Florida. I’m sure their value system is different. There is tons of money and beauty. Probably not as many Princeton and Yale types.

[Anonymous]

I really do think I'm above average in looks simply because the average American woman weighs 170 lbs and I weigh 120 lbs. And I have a pretty face that looks young for my age. I'm not career-obsessed but can carry my own weight in a partnership, making in the low six-figures. So not rich by any means but not looking to mooch off anyone.

It's my personality that brings me down several notches and I know it. I am a good friend, sister, and daughter and all and I try to be kind, but I'm just weird. I'm probably on the spectrum to some extent. I overthink and get fixated on things and I'm just eccentric. So I attract eccentric men who I just can't bring myself to like. I'll be alone forever, at least I like dogs.