What distinguishes an "average woman" from an "above average" woman for dating and marriage

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Anonymous wrote:I had a lot of high quality suitors when I was single and in my twenties.

I am naturally thin with large breasts. I have a pretty face, nice legs and great hair. I’m ivy educated. I always look polished. I wasn’t the prettiest but I was able to attract and more importantly keep the guys. I’m pleasant and a good conversationalist.

So if you are pretty, nice figure, smart and well educated, you are a good catch.

For being ivy educated you sound dumb and vapid. No such thing as naturally thin. My naturally thin cousin from a pedestrian friendly country left with a belly after all the American food.

My entire extended family is thin. The majority of my parents’ country of origin is thin. It is possible to be naturally thin. I am almost 50 and still weigh 125 pounds.

The thread is about above average women. Being pretty, thin, big boobs, smart and confident puts you in above average. I also have an engaging personality and can get along with everyone.

So you're saying your extended family is immune to gaining any weight? Lady, do you realize how dumb that sounds?

DP. My mother in law has to work hard to get UP to a size 6. She is naturally thin and will waste away if not working out. It happens. I hope my kids get her metabolism.

You mean working out will waste her away. I know a Vietnamese guy who is super thin. All Asians I've known who are very thin eat very low sugar and fat and snacks that have zero calories. That Vietnamese guy won't even walk for exercise because he didn't want to lose more weight. So it's all about the food duh

Asian American here. I am always trying to fatten up my stick skinny kids. They have always been super skinny. We eat a mix of Asian and American food.

I’m not as skinny as I used to be but I eat whatever I want and I’m still a size 4. I’m not exactly skinny compared to other Asian women but I’m still considered thin in America, especially for a middle aged women who gave birth to 3 kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I see this referenced here a lot, especially in regards to high value men. Can anyone elaborate?

Family: Emotionally and financially stable family with no racism, addiction, bankruptcy, debt, legal issues. Good marital and parenting role models.

Person: Emotionally stable. Interest in sex. Well educated and well employed. Good nature and good ethics. No serious prior relationship baggage. Decent social and financial skills. No debt. No addiction. Interest and ability for parenting. Good communication skills. Even temper. Basic home running skills, at least knowing how to delegate and organize work.

Not necessarily in that order.

+ kind. Selfish and mean men or women aren't good marriage material, no matter how rich, tall, intelligent or stunning they are.

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Anonymous wrote:I had a lot of high quality suitors when I was single and in my twenties.

I am naturally thin with large breasts. I have a pretty face, nice legs and great hair. I’m ivy educated. I always look polished. I wasn’t the prettiest but I was able to attract and more importantly keep the guys. I’m pleasant and a good conversationalist.

So if you are pretty, nice figure, smart and well educated, you are a good catch.

So who did you end up with?

I married the smart hard working guy. I picked right. He is well respected and at the top of his field. His earnings are probably what makes him high value. I appreciate much more what an amazing father he is. My kids are lucky to have him. I often feel lucky that my daughter has such a loving and doting dad.

Good earner and good parent. Good qualities but that makes a good partner, not necessarily a great husband. Lots of divorced women have ex husbands with these qualities.

Most important qualities in a partner are loving, kind, friend, caring, understanding and supportive.

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Anonymous wrote:I see this referenced here a lot, especially in regards to high value men. Can anyone elaborate?

Family: Emotionally and financially stable family with no racism, addiction, bankruptcy, debt, legal issues. Good marital and parenting role models.

Person: Emotionally stable. Interest in sex. Well educated and well employed. Good nature and good ethics. No serious prior relationship baggage. Decent social and financial skills. No debt. No addiction. Interest and ability for parenting. Good communication skills. Even temper. Basic home running skills, at least knowing how to delegate and organize work.

Not necessarily in that order.

I am sure you will find that. A perfect family of origin.

This is pretty basic.

If my parents had to file for bankruptcy at some point in their lives what does that have to do with me and what does that mean about my ability to manage finances? Absolutely nothing b/c I am a separate person from my parents.

It doesn't mean looking at IRS records of last 50 years but basic financial responsibility. Kids often inherit lifestyle decisions and often have to rescue parents and siblings which effects lives of tveir spouses and kids.

You are just making stuff up. Where is the data to back that statement up? And no your personal stories don't count or the stories of your friends and relatives. I got to get off DCUM and stick to Reddit. At least in Reddit when people make stuff up they do so in a more creative manner.

Don't take my word for it, google yourself. There are hundreds of studies and articles on this topic.

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I’ve seen people on here reference “well-educated” several times as a trait of above average value women but what does that mean? College? Some grad school? JD or MBA? Does where you went to school matter at all?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve seen people on here reference “well-educated” several times as a trait of above average value women but what does that mean? College? Some grad school? JD or MBA? Does where you went to school matter at all?

I consider well educated as degrees that are somewhat prestigious like a JD from Yale or masters from Harvard.

I would not describe someone as well educated if she went to a large state school and majored in communications. There is absolutely nothing wrong with going to a big state school but it is not someone I would describe as well educated.

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Anonymous wrote:I had a lot of high quality suitors when I was single and in my twenties.

I am naturally thin with large breasts. I have a pretty face, nice legs and great hair. I’m ivy educated. I always look polished. I wasn’t the prettiest but I was able to attract and more importantly keep the guys. I’m pleasant and a good conversationalist.

So if you are pretty, nice figure, smart and well educated, you are a good catch.

So who did you end up with?

I married the smart hard working guy. I picked right. He is well respected and at the top of his field. His earnings are probably what makes him high value. I appreciate much more what an amazing father he is. My kids are lucky to have him. I often feel lucky that my daughter has such a loving and doting dad.

Good earner and good parent. Good qualities but that makes a good partner, not necessarily a great husband. Lots of divorced women have ex husbands with these qualities.

Most important qualities in a partner are loving, kind, friend, caring, understanding and supportive.

Pp here. DH is my best friend. He is kind, loving and trustworthy. He is also very attractive. He is aging well.

I look good for my age but I recently feel older as I’m almost 50. He looks more distinguished and more attractive now than in his twenties. I definitely looked much better in my twenties and thirties.

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I would not describe someone as well educated if she went to a large state school and majored in communications. There is absolutely nothing wrong with going to a big state school but it is not someone I would describe as well educated.

Wow....What a f***ing idiot? I have a PhD in Math from a Top 5 program and I have worked with colleagues who degrees from those so called "big state schools" and trust me they are much much smarter than you.

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I think it’s all in the “er” words. Smarter, nicer, prettier, kinder etc. Nothing needs to off the chart better, it’s just an overall better. Very important is that there not be a glaring weakness such as high maintenance. I had girl friends who were prettier than my wife but no one could come close to her in so many other areas and it is still true almost 30 years later.

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I would not describe someone as well educated if she went to a large state school and majored in communications. There is absolutely nothing wrong with going to a big state school but it is not someone I would describe as well educated.

Wow....What a f***ing idiot? I have a PhD in Math from a Top 5 program and I have worked with colleagues who degrees from those so called "big state schools" and trust me they are much much smarter than you.

The question was what is considered well educated. In our circles, that would be someone with an advanced degree at a well regarded university.

You can describe someone as smart or bright. I have a friend who went to an average state school and she is very sharp. She actually has a similar very defensive strong reaction to education and prestige of schools. I would describe her as smart and sharp but not well educated. Whether the woman is well educated or smart, both women would be considered above average.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve seen people on here reference “well-educated” several times as a trait of above average value women but what does that mean? College? Some grad school? JD or MBA? Does where you went to school matter at all?

I consider well educated as degrees that are somewhat prestigious like a JD from Yale or masters from Harvard.

I would not describe someone as well educated if she went to a large state school and majored in communications. There is absolutely nothing wrong with going to a big state school but it is not someone I would describe as well educated.

I get your point, but considering only about a third of Americans even have a Bachelor’s degree, technically having a Comms degree from a State School puts you significantly higher on the well educated spectrum then not. Is it Rocket Science from MIT? Of course not.

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Anonymous wrote:To me across the board the number one value I see men prize in women above all else is emotional regulation - or more clearly parsed - the ability to suck things up.

+1 this - combined with the fact that women do more around the house and when it comes to childrearing - seems to me like men's ideal woman is someone who carries the load, does not complain or nag, and somehow manages to also eat well/exercise/be in the mood for sex often.

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Anonymous wrote:To me across the board the number one value I see men prize in women above all else is emotional regulation - or more clearly parsed - the ability to suck things up.

+1 this - combined with the fact that women do more around the house and when it comes to childrearing - seems to me like men's ideal woman is someone who carries the load, does not complain or nag, and somehow manages to also eat well/exercise/be in the mood for sex often.

It is easy to say this as someone who is already married with kids. I’m pretty sure my husband was not thinking about this when he married me. I was pretty hot, well educated and we had great chemistry. His brother is single and he tells him to marry someone who is easy going. I’m very type A and not easy going at all.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve seen people on here reference “well-educated” several times as a trait of above average value women but what does that mean? College? Some grad school? JD or MBA? Does where you went to school matter at all?

I consider well educated as degrees that are somewhat prestigious like a JD from Yale or masters from Harvard.

I would not describe someone as well educated if she went to a large state school and majored in communications. There is absolutely nothing wrong with going to a big state school but it is not someone I would describe as well educated.

So UVA grads are not well educated to you?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve seen people on here reference “well-educated” several times as a trait of above average value women but what does that mean? College? Some grad school? JD or MBA? Does where you went to school matter at all?

I consider well educated as degrees that are somewhat prestigious like a JD from Yale or masters from Harvard.

I would not describe someone as well educated if she went to a large state school and majored in communications. There is absolutely nothing wrong with going to a big state school but it is not someone I would describe as well educated.

So UVA grads are not well educated to you?

Correct. An average education.