Why do rich men seem to heavily prefer very skinny women? Even over a beautiful face?

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Anonymous wrote:They want wives who look hot in bikinis, period.

And see, as a bisexual woman, who I would think would look good in a bikini would be like a Monica Bellucci, Kelly Brook circa 2014, Salma Hayek, etc. And yet I dont see the richest men going for that

I think it’s more that the women perform for each other in these social circles. Women are extremely competitive. They have the resources to stay thin, as another poster pointed out, and they are out in public a lot. Their husbands probably don’t care about thin vs super thin, but the women do. My money is on that.

1000%. Most men are fine with a woman as long as she's not severely overweight. Most people, rich or poor, marry women in their social circles that they have proximity to. It's a trend in rich (and white/asian) circles to be extremely skinny. Hence, most competitive, type A, wealthy women who went to ivies want to be skinny because that's what's considered an achievement in their social circles. The men will take them however, but all the women around them are super thin, and that becomes a thing... and the cycle repeats. Men just tend to go with the flow in the dating market, mostly it's women who dictate beauty trends/how things go

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, that's sort of what I'm getting at. In our society alphas see tall/thin as abetter match in terms of maintaining social capital for themselves and their children. That about sums it up. But I think women internalize this and it fuels inter-female competition even though most men don't find tall/thing objectively more desirable.

That's probably very true. As in the scene from Legally Blonde. "Elle, if I'm gonna be a senator by the time I'm 30, I need to marry a Jackie, not a Marilyn"

Now apply this logic to our current system of dating apps. The manosphere is an ugly corner of the internet but they are correct in that dating apps have created an eco system where 80% of women are competing for the top 10% of men. It's basically polygamy without commitment.

I did not want to get divorced but that’s been my life for six years since being single again. I really had no idea how easy it would be with the apps. Now it’s a game with myself to see how long I can keep the ride going.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the rich men marry hot women, who then can afford in their 40s and 50s to stay really thin through diet and exercise.

Probably a lot of hot women come by it naturally in their 20s, and then being rich allows them to stay focused on body maintenance for the next few decades.

Maybe true. Sounds really awful to be a woman who has to have a major focus on body maintenance in their 40s and 50s or else face divorce/ being switched out for a newer model.

Some of us enjoy exercise and don’t want to eat garbage. Few of our grandparents were fat so it’s not like it’s some major accomplishment.

I enjoy exercise and love eating garbage. I would not want to have “a major focus on body maintenance” as a 45 year old woman. I exercise by walking/jogging and doing yoga/Pilates, but I do it because I want to feel good, not so that I maintain my “figure” to “keep” my rich husband. That would make my skin crawl if that were an expectation for my marriage. If you are comfortable with that arrangement, great and enjoy!

I don’t think most women consciously think about being thin to keep their rich husbands (which doesn’t always work, this board is filled with reports of husbands that “affair down”) it is more deeply entrenched than that- it is a combination of genetics and an almost OCD fixation on being thin. Talk to older women that are thin and you will get an earful about their absolute disgust and revulsion of body fat.

That’s definitely true. They are also, bar none, the collectively most miserable old people. Their anger and bitterness is overwhelming when you talk with them. They are absolutely disgusted by fat, but also by pretty much everything else in life.

I have a friend who works with the elderly and she told me she is not sure she’s ever met a genuinely happy thin older woman. She is thin herself and was observing it as something that worries her. She almost thinks it is physiological, like a lifetime spent watching food intake turns into permanent anhedonia and an inability to love.

This is really fascinating to me. As someone who used to be extremely thin, I think it does make you miserable. When you dont have enough calories, your body starts literally taking fat from the brain. It's not to say anyone has to be overweight, but I think a normal weight might be healthier. Whatever you have to do to maintain such a low body fat, seems to make people kind of miserable. Reminds me of Steve Jobs as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Just a guess: super thin looks “classy” because expensive clothing is made for model-thin bodies. It’s easier for a super thin woman who is not pretty in the face to look rich versus a beautiful curvy woman simply because super luxury brands make clothes with size 00 in mind. I’m not saying rich men think about clothes but subconsciously they do want a woman who knows how to look rich.

I don’t think men are looking for women who look rich.

I think that women who are rich want to look rich. I do t really think it has much to do with the men.

It's all part of the lifestyle. They will look better in clothes if they are thin, for one. But, they are also usually very active. They run, ski, hike, golf, play tennis, do yoga, Pliates, HIIT, etc. They are often toned and athletic. I'm not seeing the skin and bones in younger rich women, that maybe was true of the previous generations, but not anymore. If you are very overweight you do stand out like a sore thumb in these circles. Has OP ever said where she sees all these rich men with butter face stick thin women? What kind of places is she hanging out in?

it's still true in the older generations of wealth. These women are on the Nancy Reagan diet

Are you saying they are also inactive and smoking like older generations? I think they still ski, run marathons, tennis, etc.

These women don’t run marathons. Marathon running is more for the younger nouveau riche tech set.

Right, they ride horses and muck the stalls and do ballet/barre and stuff like that along with their taste everything eat nothing, G&T diets.

I would say ride horses, barre, is part of the etc. They are active. Pick the activity. They all do something.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the rich men marry hot women, who then can afford in their 40s and 50s to stay really thin through diet and exercise.

Probably a lot of hot women come by it naturally in their 20s, and then being rich allows them to stay focused on body maintenance for the next few decades.

Maybe true. Sounds really awful to be a woman who has to have a major focus on body maintenance in their 40s and 50s or else face divorce/ being switched out for a newer model.

Some of us enjoy exercise and don’t want to eat garbage. Few of our grandparents were fat so it’s not like it’s some major accomplishment.

I enjoy exercise and love eating garbage. I would not want to have “a major focus on body maintenance” as a 45 year old woman. I exercise by walking/jogging and doing yoga/Pilates, but I do it because I want to feel good, not so that I maintain my “figure” to “keep” my rich husband. That would make my skin crawl if that were an expectation for my marriage. If you are comfortable with that arrangement, great and enjoy!

I don’t think most women consciously think about being thin to keep their rich husbands (which doesn’t always work, this board is filled with reports of husbands that “affair down”) it is more deeply entrenched than that- it is a combination of genetics and an almost OCD fixation on being thin. Talk to older women that are thin and you will get an earful about their absolute disgust and revulsion of body fat.

That’s definitely true. They are also, bar none, the collectively most miserable old people. Their anger and bitterness is overwhelming when you talk with them. They are absolutely disgusted by fat, but also by pretty much everything else in life.

I have a friend who works with the elderly and she told me she is not sure she’s ever met a genuinely happy thin older woman. She is thin herself and was observing it as something that worries her. She almost thinks it is physiological, like a lifetime spent watching food intake turns into permanent anhedonia and an inability to love.

This is really fascinating to me. As someone who used to be extremely thin, I think it does make you miserable. When you dont have enough calories, your body starts literally taking fat from the brain. It's not to say anyone has to be overweight, but I think a normal weight might be healthier. Whatever you have to do to maintain such a low body fat, seems to make people kind of miserable. Reminds me of Steve Jobs as well.

I do think there is a physiological aspect. After my friend made that observation, I realized I didn’t know any happy and thin older women either.

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Anonymous wrote:I was just wondering about this today. I see a lot of rich men, and often the women theyre with are not very attractive in the face (like at all), but they're almost always pin thin.

Just wondering why this is. Is it a generational thing, since "thin was in" for boomers and it's mostly boomers and Xers with the wealth at this point? Status symbol? The men just like it without any outside influence from society? Any thoughts?

I like thin women. Blue collar guys like thick women. Why? Who knows.

Probably because that is who available to them. Like attracts like.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, that's sort of what I'm getting at. In our society alphas see tall/thin as abetter match in terms of maintaining social capital for themselves and their children. That about sums it up. But I think women internalize this and it fuels inter-female competition even though most men don't find tall/thing objectively more desirable.

That's probably very true. As in the scene from Legally Blonde. "Elle, if I'm gonna be a senator by the time I'm 30, I need to marry a Jackie, not a Marilyn"

Now apply this logic to our current system of dating apps. The manosphere is an ugly corner of the internet but they are correct in that dating apps have created an eco system where 80% of women are competing for the top 10% of men. It's basically polygamy without commitment.

And in your situation (I'm assuming you're a guy) that's fine but for younger men and women looking for marriage (even if they're hesitant to verbalize that) it's been a disaster.

I did not want to get divorced but that’s been my life for six years since being single again. I really had no idea how easy it would be with the apps. Now it’s a game with myself to see how long I can keep the ride going.

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Anonymous wrote:No one finds fat attractive.

Most men like curves and a big butt. Fact.

No, they don't. That's a lie made up by fat girls to make them feel better. If fat girls really were attractive they'd be the ones in movies and swimsuit catalogues.

Just try and lose 50 pounds. Maybe men won't gag when they walk past you then.

I think it's worth pointing that most men arent rich alphas and that 90% of this shit is fueled by female power games. Nothing is more important to us than feeling desirable and that's got nothing to do with men.

And everything to do with competition for limited resources.

Makes you wonder who is perpetuating things. All identity movements are an effort to manipulate existing social hierarchies. It's not nefarious, just human.

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Anonymous wrote:I was just wondering about this today. I see a lot of rich men, and often the women theyre with are not very attractive in the face (like at all), but they're almost always pin thin.

Just wondering why this is. Is it a generational thing, since "thin was in" for boomers and it's mostly boomers and Xers with the wealth at this point? Status symbol? The men just like it without any outside influence from society? Any thoughts?

I like thin women. Blue collar guys like thick women. Why? Who knows.

Probably because that is who available to them. Like attracts like.

I dont think that's true... a lot of these blue collar guys are hot and ripped AF. They have six packs. I have spent time in blue collar communities, and there are plenty of really skinny women running around. But often you will see the hot construction worker type men running around with very curvy women.

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Wow. Just wow.

This thread is basically a way for people to hate on thin people. Fat people can’t conceive of a world where thin women aren’t miserable. Where they are just naturally thin or do a good job taking care of themselves without some disorder. You can’t conceive that thin, happy women exist. They must be miserable! (Why? Oh right, because you are miserable.)

Jeff, if this were reversed and there were all this bigoted fat bashing, this thread would get shut down in a hot minute. Why don’t all you sad people go for a walk?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Just wow.

This thread is basically a way for people to hate on thin people. Fat people can’t conceive of a world where thin women aren’t miserable. Where they are just naturally thin or do a good job taking care of themselves without some disorder. You can’t conceive that thin, happy women exist. They must be miserable! (Why? Oh right, because you are miserable.)

Jeff, if this were reversed and there were all this bigoted fat bashing, this thread would get shut down in a hot minute. Why don’t all you sad people go for a walk?

How is anyone "bashing" thin people? The OP just observed a phenomenon and asked a question about it. People have been sharing their opinions on either side, and it's pretty civil. Why does this question bother you?

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Anonymous wrote:I was just wondering about this today. I see a lot of rich men, and often the women theyre with are not very attractive in the face (like at all), but they're almost always pin thin.

Just wondering why this is. Is it a generational thing, since "thin was in" for boomers and it's mostly boomers and Xers with the wealth at this point? Status symbol? The men just like it without any outside influence from society? Any thoughts?

I like thin women. Blue collar guys like thick women. Why? Who knows.

Probably because that is who available to them. Like attracts like.

I dont think that's true... a lot of these blue collar guys are hot and ripped AF. They have six packs. I have spent time in blue collar communities, and there are plenty of really skinny women running around. But often you will see the hot construction worker type men running around with very curvy women.

Hmm guess that's not the norm everywhere. I don't see a lot of hot construction workers ever really. Unless we have wildly different ideas of hotness.

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Anonymous wrote:I was just wondering about this today. I see a lot of rich men, and often the women theyre with are not very attractive in the face (like at all), but they're almost always pin thin.

Just wondering why this is. Is it a generational thing, since "thin was in" for boomers and it's mostly boomers and Xers with the wealth at this point? Status symbol? The men just like it without any outside influence from society? Any thoughts?

I like thin women. Blue collar guys like thick women. Why? Who knows.

Probably because that is who available to them. Like attracts like.

I dont think that's true... a lot of these blue collar guys are hot and ripped AF. They have six packs. I have spent time in blue collar communities, and there are plenty of really skinny women running around. But often you will see the hot construction worker type men running around with very curvy women.

Hmm guess that's not the norm everywhere. I don't see a lot of hot construction workers ever really. Unless we have wildly different ideas of hotness.

I'm from DC originally so it was definitely a bit of a surprise. A lot of those blue collar men down south are HOT AF and I was not mentally prepared. They have insane muscular structure from working outside all day (I dont know if all of them are construction workers or what theyre all doing, just that it appears to be blue collar). Definitely not your DC wonks!

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Just wow.

This thread is basically a way for people to hate on thin people. Fat people can’t conceive of a world where thin women aren’t miserable. Where they are just naturally thin or do a good job taking care of themselves without some disorder. You can’t conceive that thin, happy women exist. They must be miserable! (Why? Oh right, because you are miserable.)

Jeff, if this were reversed and there were all this bigoted fat bashing, this thread would get shut down in a hot minute. Why don’t all you sad people go for a walk?

How is anyone "bashing" thin people? The OP just observed a phenomenon and asked a question about it. People have been sharing their opinions on either side, and it's pretty civil. Why does this question bother you?

"Maybe, but the older thin women seem exceptionally bitter and miserable. They don’t just hate fat. They hate everything."

"Sounds really awful to be a woman who has to have a major focus on body maintenance in their 40s and 50s or else face divorce/ being switched out for a newer model."

This one is especially a doozy:
"They are also, bar none, the collectively most miserable old people. Their anger and bitterness is overwhelming when you talk with them. They are absolutely disgusted by fat, but also by pretty much everything else in life."

"...their taste everything eat nothing, G&T diets."

"...she is not sure she’s ever met a genuinely happy thin older woman. ... She almost thinks it is physiological, like a lifetime spent watching food intake turns into permanent anhedonia and an inability to love."

Someone who is angry it's hard for herself to stay thin decides all thin women are miserable like she is. She also conflates "not having enough calories" with "being thin", as though people who aren't fat are automatically starving themselves.
"As someone who used to be extremely thin, I think it does make you miserable. When you dont have enough calories, your body starts literally taking fat from the brain. It's not to say anyone has to be overweight, but I think a normal weight might be healthier. Whatever you have to do to maintain such a low body fat, seems to make people kind of miserable."

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Just wow.

This thread is basically a way for people to hate on thin people. Fat people can’t conceive of a world where thin women aren’t miserable. Where they are just naturally thin or do a good job taking care of themselves without some disorder. You can’t conceive that thin, happy women exist. They must be miserable! (Why? Oh right, because you are miserable.)

Jeff, if this were reversed and there were all this bigoted fat bashing, this thread would get shut down in a hot minute. Why don’t all you sad people go for a walk?

How is anyone "bashing" thin people? The OP just observed a phenomenon and asked a question about it. People have been sharing their opinions on either side, and it's pretty civil. Why does this question bother you?

"Maybe, but the older thin women seem exceptionally bitter and miserable. They don’t just hate fat. They hate everything."

"Sounds really awful to be a woman who has to have a major focus on body maintenance in their 40s and 50s or else face divorce/ being switched out for a newer model."

This one is especially a doozy:
"They are also, bar none, the collectively most miserable old people. Their anger and bitterness is overwhelming when you talk with them. They are absolutely disgusted by fat, but also by pretty much everything else in life."

"...their taste everything eat nothing, G&T diets."

"...she is not sure she’s ever met a genuinely happy thin older woman. ... She almost thinks it is physiological, like a lifetime spent watching food intake turns into permanent anhedonia and an inability to love."

Someone who is angry it's hard for herself to stay thin decides all thin women are miserable like she is. She also conflates "not having enough calories" with "being thin", as though people who aren't fat are automatically starving themselves.
"As someone who used to be extremely thin, I think it does make you miserable. When you dont have enough calories, your body starts literally taking fat from the brain. It's not to say anyone has to be overweight, but I think a normal weight might be healthier. Whatever you have to do to maintain such a low body fat, seems to make people kind of miserable."

Okay. Someone talking about their experience between thin and struggling with depression at the time, or someone telling an anecdote about their friend who worked in a nursing home, is not "bashing thin people". Truly, if you're going to be these sensitive, you need to get off DCUM. Like... immediately. And maybe... go outside and touch grass, while you're at it!