Why do rich men seem to heavily prefer very skinny women? Even over a beautiful face?

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Anonymous wrote:If you read what Kim did, she was eating horribly to keep the overweight figure. Now she is healthy the weight came off so the fat healthy concept is false

“Since then, afterwards, I continued to eat really healthy,” the mom of four said. “I’m down 21 pounds now. I’m not trying to lose any more weight, but I have more energy than ever. I cut out so much sugar — a lot of junk food I was eating, I didn’t realize, like a lot of fried foods. And I just completely changed my lifestyle.” Kim credits the drastic change for teaching her “a lot about [her] lifestyle and [her] mental health.”

You actually believe that? Are you truly that naive? Wow. That’s a bit insane.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, that's sort of what I'm getting at. In our society alphas see tall/thin as abetter match in terms of maintaining social capital for themselves and their children. That about sums it up. But I think women internalize this and it fuels inter-female competition even though most men don't find tall/thing objectively more desirable.

That's probably very true. As in the scene from Legally Blonde. "Elle, if I'm gonna be a senator by the time I'm 30, I need to marry a Jackie, not a Marilyn"

Now apply this logic to our current system of dating apps. The manosphere is an ugly corner of the internet but they are correct in that dating apps have created an eco system where 80% of women are competing for the top 10% of men. It's basically polygamy without commitment.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the rich men marry hot women, who then can afford in their 40s and 50s to stay really thin through diet and exercise.

Probably a lot of hot women come by it naturally in their 20s, and then being rich allows them to stay focused on body maintenance for the next few decades.

Maybe true. Sounds really awful to be a woman who has to have a major focus on body maintenance in their 40s and 50s or else face divorce/ being switched out for a newer model.

Some of us enjoy exercise and don’t want to eat garbage. Few of our grandparents were fat so it’s not like it’s some major accomplishment.

I enjoy exercise and love eating garbage. I would not want to have “a major focus on body maintenance” as a 45 year old woman. I exercise by walking/jogging and doing yoga/Pilates, but I do it because I want to feel good, not so that I maintain my “figure” to “keep” my rich husband. That would make my skin crawl if that were an expectation for my marriage. If you are comfortable with that arrangement, great and enjoy!

I don’t think most women consciously think about being thin to keep their rich husbands (which doesn’t always work, this board is filled with reports of husbands that “affair down”) it is more deeply entrenched than that- it is a combination of genetics and an almost OCD fixation on being thin. Talk to older women that are thin and you will get an earful about their absolute disgust and revulsion of body fat.

That’s definitely true. They are also, bar none, the collectively most miserable old people. Their anger and bitterness is overwhelming when you talk with them. They are absolutely disgusted by fat, but also by pretty much everything else in life.

I have a friend who works with the elderly and she told me she is not sure she’s ever met a genuinely happy thin older woman. She is thin herself and was observing it as something that worries her. She almost thinks it is physiological, like a lifetime spent watching food intake turns into permanent anhedonia and an inability to love.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the rich men marry hot women, who then can afford in their 40s and 50s to stay really thin through diet and exercise.

Probably a lot of hot women come by it naturally in their 20s, and then being rich allows them to stay focused on body maintenance for the next few decades.

Maybe true. Sounds really awful to be a woman who has to have a major focus on body maintenance in their 40s and 50s or else face divorce/ being switched out for a newer model.

Some of us enjoy exercise and don’t want to eat garbage. Few of our grandparents were fat so it’s not like it’s some major accomplishment.

I enjoy exercise and love eating garbage. I would not want to have “a major focus on body maintenance” as a 45 year old woman. I exercise by walking/jogging and doing yoga/Pilates, but I do it because I want to feel good, not so that I maintain my “figure” to “keep” my rich husband. That would make my skin crawl if that were an expectation for my marriage. If you are comfortable with that arrangement, great and enjoy!

I don’t think most women consciously think about being thin to keep their rich husbands (which doesn’t always work, this board is filled with reports of husbands that “affair down”) it is more deeply entrenched than that- it is a combination of genetics and an almost OCD fixation on being thin. Talk to older women that are thin and you will get an earful about their absolute disgust and revulsion of body fat.

That’s definitely true. They are also, bar none, the collectively most miserable old people. Their anger and bitterness is overwhelming when you talk with them. They are absolutely disgusted by fat, but also by pretty much everything else in life.

I have a friend who works with the elderly and she told me she is not sure she’s ever met a genuinely happy thin older woman. She is thin herself and was observing it as something that worries her. She almost thinks it is physiological, like a lifetime spent watching food intake turns into permanent anhedonia and an inability to love.

I'm mean, thin or fat, everyone loses their looks eventually. It's probably harder to make that transition when so much of your identity is tied to youthful beauty standards.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, that's sort of what I'm getting at. In our society alphas see tall/thin as abetter match in terms of maintaining social capital for themselves and their children. That about sums it up. But I think women internalize this and it fuels inter-female competition even though most men don't find tall/thing objectively more desirable.

That's probably very true. As in the scene from Legally Blonde. "Elle, if I'm gonna be a senator by the time I'm 30, I need to marry a Jackie, not a Marilyn"

Now apply this logic to our current system of dating apps. The manosphere is an ugly corner of the internet but they are correct in that dating apps have created an eco system where 80% of women are competing for the top 10% of men. It's basically polygamy without commitment.

Wow, that is a tidy summation. Aptly put. 👏

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Anonymous wrote:I was just wondering about this today. I see a lot of rich men, and often the women theyre with are not very attractive in the face (like at all), but they're almost always pin thin.

Just wondering why this is. Is it a generational thing, since "thin was in" for boomers and it's mostly boomers and Xers with the wealth at this point? Status symbol? The men just like it without any outside influence from society? Any thoughts?

I like thin women. Blue collar guys like thick women. Why? Who knows.

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Anonymous wrote:And the women they have affairs with, what do they tend to look like? From an evolutionary perspective, when you are a high status male there's some tension btwn prioritizing different fitness pay offs. But it's only with the rise of monogamy that alphas have had to make a choice at all.

I'd say most of the time with curvy women. Which is why it's so interesting

Yeah but you have to take that a step further. Heavier women are more likely to have lower self esteem and to give these men the idolization / attention they’re seeking

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Anonymous wrote:I think the rich men marry hot women, who then can afford in their 40s and 50s to stay really thin through diet and exercise.

Probably a lot of hot women come by it naturally in their 20s, and then being rich allows them to stay focused on body maintenance for the next few decades.

Maybe true. Sounds really awful to be a woman who has to have a major focus on body maintenance in their 40s and 50s or else face divorce/ being switched out for a newer model.

Some of us enjoy exercise and don’t want to eat garbage. Few of our grandparents were fat so it’s not like it’s some major accomplishment.

My grandma was fat. Not when she got married, but definitely by the time she was in her 40’s. She lived on a farm and exercise and whole food was a way of life. It’s normal to gain weight as you get older.

It’s normal to gain some weight. It’s not normal to get fat. Americans seems to have accepted obesity as their fate and they’ve totally given up. I just don’t understand it.

It’s not just older American women. What about all those older Ukrainian women, Russian women, Italian woman….Grandmas from around the world get heavy, but they have strong arms, strong hands from all the cooking and rolling and carrying. They’re not lazy at all, but no one expects them to look 30 years old. And they’re RESPECTED. People aren’t revolted by them.

Well, to be fair, they are also not on dating apps trying to look “ uckable”. They cross over and embrace The Crone, The Strega Nonna, The Babushka.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, that's sort of what I'm getting at. In our society alphas see tall/thin as abetter match in terms of maintaining social capital for themselves and their children. That about sums it up. But I think women internalize this and it fuels inter-female competition even though most men don't find tall/thing objectively more desirable.

That's probably very true. As in the scene from Legally Blonde. "Elle, if I'm gonna be a senator by the time I'm 30, I need to marry a Jackie, not a Marilyn"

Now apply this logic to our current system of dating apps. The manosphere is an ugly corner of the internet but they are correct in that dating apps have created an eco system where 80% of women are competing for the top 10% of men. It's basically polygamy without commitment.

Thanks. Im just old enough to have skipped online dating bc I married young but it's brutal out there. 80% of women put themselves out there in ways that theyf don't really want to just to be perceived as desirable to the top 10% and 90% of guys never have a chance. Women are actually much harder on men in terms of looks, status, etc than men are on women.


Wow, that is a tidy summation. Aptly put. 👏

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Anonymous wrote:They want wives who look hot in bikinis, period.

And see, as a bisexual woman, who I would think would look good in a bikini would be like a Monica Bellucci, Kelly Brook circa 2014, Salma Hayek, etc. And yet I dont see the richest men going for that

I think it’s more that the women perform for each other in these social circles. Women are extremely competitive. They have the resources to stay thin, as another poster pointed out, and they are out in public a lot. Their husbands probably don’t care about thin vs super thin, but the women do. My money is on that.

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Anonymous wrote:And the women they have affairs with, what do they tend to look like? From an evolutionary perspective, when you are a high status male there's some tension btwn prioritizing different fitness pay offs. But it's only with the rise of monogamy that alphas have had to make a choice at all.

I'd say most of the time with curvy women. Which is why it's so interesting

Yeah but you have to take that a step further. Heavier women are more likely to have lower self esteem and to give these men the idolization / attention they’re seeking

And to go even further, lots of women of color are curvier. So you take a LatinX secretary for instance, from a machismo culture that still struggles with subservience to men. Enter a white, wealthy businessman and he is Captain America to her. Colonial undertones included.

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Anonymous wrote:No one finds fat attractive.

Most men like curves and a big butt. Fact.

No, they don't. That's a lie made up by fat girls to make them feel better. If fat girls really were attractive they'd be the ones in movies and swimsuit catalogues.

Just try and lose 50 pounds. Maybe men won't gag when they walk past you then.

I think it's worth pointing that most men arent rich alphas and that 90% of this shit is fueled by female power games. Nothing is more important to us than feeling desirable and that's got nothing to do with men.

And everything to do with competition for limited resources.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the rich men marry hot women, who then can afford in their 40s and 50s to stay really thin through diet and exercise.

Probably a lot of hot women come by it naturally in their 20s, and then being rich allows them to stay focused on body maintenance for the next few decades.

Maybe true. Sounds really awful to be a woman who has to have a major focus on body maintenance in their 40s and 50s or else face divorce/ being switched out for a newer model.

Some of us enjoy exercise and don’t want to eat garbage. Few of our grandparents were fat so it’s not like it’s some major accomplishment.

I enjoy exercise and love eating garbage. I would not want to have “a major focus on body maintenance” as a 45 year old woman. I exercise by walking/jogging and doing yoga/Pilates, but I do it because I want to feel good, not so that I maintain my “figure” to “keep” my rich husband. That would make my skin crawl if that were an expectation for my marriage. If you are comfortable with that arrangement, great and enjoy!

I don’t think most women consciously think about being thin to keep their rich husbands (which doesn’t always work, this board is filled with reports of husbands that “affair down”) it is more deeply entrenched than that- it is a combination of genetics and an almost OCD fixation on being thin. Talk to older women that are thin and you will get an earful about their absolute disgust and revulsion of body fat.

That’s definitely true. They are also, bar none, the collectively most miserable old people. Their anger and bitterness is overwhelming when you talk with them. They are absolutely disgusted by fat, but also by pretty much everything else in life.

I have a friend who works with the elderly and she told me she is not sure she’s ever met a genuinely happy thin older woman. She is thin herself and was observing it as something that worries her. She almost thinks it is physiological, like a lifetime spent watching food intake turns into permanent anhedonia and an inability to love.

I'm mean, thin or fat, everyone loses their looks eventually. It's probably harder to make that transition when so much of your identity is tied to youthful beauty standards.

Maybe, but the older thin women seem exceptionally bitter and miserable. They don’t just hate fat. They hate everything.

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Anonymous wrote:No one finds fat attractive.

Most men like curves and a big butt. Fact.

No, they don't. That's a lie made up by fat girls to make them feel better. If fat girls really were attractive they'd be the ones in movies and swimsuit catalogues.

Just try and lose 50 pounds. Maybe men won't gag when they walk past you then.

I think it's worth pointing that most men arent rich alphas and that 90% of this shit is fueled by female power games. Nothing is more important to us than feeling desirable and that's got nothing to do with men.

BOOM. This is it.

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The blonde butterface type is the stupid American ideal of “hotness.”