Why do rich men seem to heavily prefer very skinny women? Even over a beautiful face?

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Anonymous wrote:I was just wondering about this today. I see a lot of rich men, and often the women theyre with are not very attractive in the face (like at all), but they're almost always pin thin.

Just wondering why this is. Is it a generational thing, since "thin was in" for boomers and it's mostly boomers and Xers with the wealth at this point? Status symbol? The men just like it without any outside influence from society? Any thoughts?

I like thin women. Blue collar guys like thick women. Why? Who knows.

Probably because that is who available to them. Like attracts like.

I dont think that's true... a lot of these blue collar guys are hot and ripped AF. They have six packs. I have spent time in blue collar communities, and there are plenty of really skinny women running around. But often you will see the hot construction worker type men running around with very curvy women.

Not surprising that any wealthy men would like skinny, pretty blondes- but this is not a realistic cross-section of working class men. The good ‘ol boy Maga country persona is not exactly known for embracing diversity.

Hmm guess that's not the norm everywhere. I don't see a lot of hot construction workers ever really. Unless we have wildly different ideas of hotness.

I'm from DC originally so it was definitely a bit of a surprise. A lot of those blue collar men down south are HOT AF and I was not mentally prepared. They have insane muscular structure from working outside all day (I dont know if all of them are construction workers or what theyre all doing, just that it appears to be blue collar). Definitely not your DC wonks!

Well, I live out west and this is not remotely true. Guess it's a souther thing.

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That's probably why I specified the south.... lmao.

It wasn't stated up front, it was presented as fact until you followed up. I stand by what I said, like attract likes because that's what I see if we're going off our lived experiences.

I haven't spent much time in blue collar communities on the west coast, so I'll have to take your word for it on being an expert. But I stand by my experiences and what I saw with my own two eyes. You can be mad about it allllll day long, no one cares.

IRT to blue collar liking fat or curvy, here are the famous country music stars, wives of gfs, notice anything?

The biggest country star of all time is married to a plus sized, incredibly successful woman

That settles it. Rich men prefer plus sized women. I guess OP had it all wrong.

Not the PP, but I believe her point was just contradicting the inane cherry picking that the previous poster was doing. I frankly couldn't tell you what the previous poster is even attempting to say with that photo montage- they dont appear to be firing on all cylinders mentally.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Just wow.

This thread is basically a way for people to hate on thin people. Fat people can’t conceive of a world where thin women aren’t miserable. Where they are just naturally thin or do a good job taking care of themselves without some disorder. You can’t conceive that thin, happy women exist. They must be miserable! (Why? Oh right, because you are miserable.)

Jeff, if this were reversed and there were all this bigoted fat bashing, this thread would get shut down in a hot minute. Why don’t all you sad people go for a walk?

How is anyone "bashing" thin people? The OP just observed a phenomenon and asked a question about it. People have been sharing their opinions on either side, and it's pretty civil. Why does this question bother you?

"Maybe, but the older thin women seem exceptionally bitter and miserable. They don’t just hate fat. They hate everything."

"Sounds really awful to be a woman who has to have a major focus on body maintenance in their 40s and 50s or else face divorce/ being switched out for a newer model."

This one is especially a doozy:
"They are also, bar none, the collectively most miserable old people. Their anger and bitterness is overwhelming when you talk with them. They are absolutely disgusted by fat, but also by pretty much everything else in life."

"...their taste everything eat nothing, G&T diets."

"...she is not sure she’s ever met a genuinely happy thin older woman. ... She almost thinks it is physiological, like a lifetime spent watching food intake turns into permanent anhedonia and an inability to love."

Someone who is angry it's hard for herself to stay thin decides all thin women are miserable like she is. She also conflates "not having enough calories" with "being thin", as though people who aren't fat are automatically starving themselves.
"As someone who used to be extremely thin, I think it does make you miserable. When you dont have enough calories, your body starts literally taking fat from the brain. It's not to say anyone has to be overweight, but I think a normal weight might be healthier. Whatever you have to do to maintain such a low body fat, seems to make people kind of miserable."

Read the Minnesota starvation experiment. All of these things (finding normal size people disgusting, depression, apathy, etc) are normal psychological reactions to calorie restriction. It’s not surprising that people have observed them in themselves and others.

Also, you have to imagine that nearly every fat person has gone through week/months/years where they have calorie restricted. People are generalizing their own experiences.

Let’s try this again:
Just because you are thin does not mean you are starving yourself and are miserable. Is this what you people really think? Good Christ.

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I looked up the Minnesota Starvation Experiment. The calories were so restricted that the participants lost 25% of their body weight in 6 months, and they were healthy weight to start with. So they would have lost all their fat, and then also muscle. That’s extreme. Also after having gone through the starvation, during the recovery some could not stop eating, they would eat 10,000 calories a day.

I do see some women who are so thin they look unhealthy and low energy, but mostly higher SES women seem to be in great shape from being very disciplined with diet and exercise.

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So many people here trying to argue against eating well and having a healthy lifestyle... amazing.

How about women in Japan? Even middle aged women there are quite svelte, due to a healthy diet and frequent exercise (walking). Shame on them too?

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Anonymous wrote:So many people here trying to argue against eating well and having a healthy lifestyle... amazing.

How about women in Japan? Even middle aged women there are quite svelte, due to a healthy diet and frequent exercise (walking). Shame on them too?

You seem so emotionally overwrought and dramatic over this thread, it's really something. No one is shaming anyone, simply giving their observations! Deep breaths, it will be okay!

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Anonymous wrote:I think the rich men marry hot women, who then can afford in their 40s and 50s to stay really thin through diet and exercise.

Probably a lot of hot women come by it naturally in their 20s, and then being rich allows them to stay focused on body maintenance for the next few decades.

Maybe true. Sounds really awful to be a woman who has to have a major focus on body maintenance in their 40s and 50s or else face divorce/ being switched out for a newer model.

Some of us enjoy exercise and don’t want to eat garbage. Few of our grandparents were fat so it’s not like it’s some major accomplishment.

My grandma was fat. Not when she got married, but definitely by the time she was in her 40’s. She lived on a farm and exercise and whole food was a way of life. It’s normal to gain weight as you get older.

It’s normal to gain some weight. It’s not normal to get fat. Americans seems to have accepted obesity as their fate and they’ve totally given up. I just don’t understand it.

It’s not just older American women. What about all those older Ukrainian women, Russian women, Italian woman….Grandmas from around the world get heavy, but they have strong arms, strong hands from all the cooking and rolling and carrying. They’re not lazy at all, but no one expects them to look 30 years old. And they’re RESPECTED. People aren’t revolted by them.

Well said!

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Anonymous wrote:So many people here trying to argue against eating well and having a healthy lifestyle... amazing.

How about women in Japan? Even middle aged women there are quite svelte, due to a healthy diet and frequent exercise (walking). Shame on them too?

Japan is also a monoethnic society. Cherry picking a few posts about the psychological state of women based on their body type is an avoidance tactic and not what this thread is primarily about. All women want to "marry up" and one of the easier ways to do this is to have a certain type of outlier bmi. It's uncomfortable but we're just human so what can you do? No one, heavy or thin, likes to be judged through their immutable characteristics--either by their husbands or society, but here we are. I think this happens more easily in ethnically diverse countries.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Just wow.

This thread is basically a way for people to hate on thin people. Fat people can’t conceive of a world where thin women aren’t miserable. Where they are just naturally thin or do a good job taking care of themselves without some disorder. You can’t conceive that thin, happy women exist. They must be miserable! (Why? Oh right, because you are miserable.)

Jeff, if this were reversed and there were all this bigoted fat bashing, this thread would get shut down in a hot minute. Why don’t all you sad people go for a walk?

How is anyone "bashing" thin people? The OP just observed a phenomenon and asked a question about it. People have been sharing their opinions on either side, and it's pretty civil. Why does this question bother you?

"Maybe, but the older thin women seem exceptionally bitter and miserable. They don’t just hate fat. They hate everything."

"Sounds really awful to be a woman who has to have a major focus on body maintenance in their 40s and 50s or else face divorce/ being switched out for a newer model."

This one is especially a doozy:
"They are also, bar none, the collectively most miserable old people. Their anger and bitterness is overwhelming when you talk with them. They are absolutely disgusted by fat, but also by pretty much everything else in life."

"...their taste everything eat nothing, G&T diets."

"...she is not sure she’s ever met a genuinely happy thin older woman. ... She almost thinks it is physiological, like a lifetime spent watching food intake turns into permanent anhedonia and an inability to love."

Someone who is angry it's hard for herself to stay thin decides all thin women are miserable like she is. She also conflates "not having enough calories" with "being thin", as though people who aren't fat are automatically starving themselves.
"As someone who used to be extremely thin, I think it does make you miserable. When you dont have enough calories, your body starts literally taking fat from the brain. It's not to say anyone has to be overweight, but I think a normal weight might be healthier. Whatever you have to do to maintain such a low body fat, seems to make people kind of miserable."

Read the Minnesota starvation experiment. All of these things (finding normal size people disgusting, depression, apathy, etc) are normal psychological reactions to calorie restriction. It’s not surprising that people have observed them in themselves and others.

Also, you have to imagine that nearly every fat person has gone through week/months/years where they have calorie restricted. People are generalizing their own experiences.

This is true of calorie restriction, I absolutely believe it.

But it's also important for people to understand: SOME WOMEN ARE THIN WITHOUT CALORIE RESTRICTION.

Cue a bunch of posters telling me I'm wrong, that there's no such thing as a person whose natural weight while eating healthily is a size 0 or 2, or that this can only be true for very young women, or very tall women, or women of certain races.

I am very big on body acceptance but I think it should apply to everyone. I've noticed that a lot of women, specifically, think it should only apply to certain groups. This thread is a good example of that.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the rich men marry hot women, who then can afford in their 40s and 50s to stay really thin through diet and exercise.

Probably a lot of hot women come by it naturally in their 20s, and then being rich allows them to stay focused on body maintenance for the next few decades.

Maybe true. Sounds really awful to be a woman who has to have a major focus on body maintenance in their 40s and 50s or else face divorce/ being switched out for a newer model.

Some of us enjoy exercise and don’t want to eat garbage. Few of our grandparents were fat so it’s not like it’s some major accomplishment.

My grandma was fat. Not when she got married, but definitely by the time she was in her 40’s. She lived on a farm and exercise and whole food was a way of life. It’s normal to gain weight as you get older.

It’s normal to gain some weight. It’s not normal to get fat. Americans seems to have accepted obesity as their fate and they’ve totally given up. I just don’t understand it.

It’s not just older American women. What about all those older Ukrainian women, Russian women, Italian woman….Grandmas from around the world get heavy, but they have strong arms, strong hands from all the cooking and rolling and carrying. They’re not lazy at all, but no one expects them to look 30 years old. And they’re RESPECTED. People aren’t revolted by them.

Well said!

Euro grandmas are slim compared to the average flyover country teenager, my friend.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Just wow.

This thread is basically a way for people to hate on thin people. Fat people can’t conceive of a world where thin women aren’t miserable. Where they are just naturally thin or do a good job taking care of themselves without some disorder. You can’t conceive that thin, happy women exist. They must be miserable! (Why? Oh right, because you are miserable.)

Jeff, if this were reversed and there were all this bigoted fat bashing, this thread would get shut down in a hot minute. Why don’t all you sad people go for a walk?

How is anyone "bashing" thin people? The OP just observed a phenomenon and asked a question about it. People have been sharing their opinions on either side, and it's pretty civil. Why does this question bother you?

"Maybe, but the older thin women seem exceptionally bitter and miserable. They don’t just hate fat. They hate everything."

"Sounds really awful to be a woman who has to have a major focus on body maintenance in their 40s and 50s or else face divorce/ being switched out for a newer model."

This one is especially a doozy:
"They are also, bar none, the collectively most miserable old people. Their anger and bitterness is overwhelming when you talk with them. They are absolutely disgusted by fat, but also by pretty much everything else in life."

"...their taste everything eat nothing, G&T diets."

"...she is not sure she’s ever met a genuinely happy thin older woman. ... She almost thinks it is physiological, like a lifetime spent watching food intake turns into permanent anhedonia and an inability to love."

Someone who is angry it's hard for herself to stay thin decides all thin women are miserable like she is. She also conflates "not having enough calories" with "being thin", as though people who aren't fat are automatically starving themselves.
"As someone who used to be extremely thin, I think it does make you miserable. When you dont have enough calories, your body starts literally taking fat from the brain. It's not to say anyone has to be overweight, but I think a normal weight might be healthier. Whatever you have to do to maintain such a low body fat, seems to make people kind of miserable."

Read the Minnesota starvation experiment. All of these things (finding normal size people disgusting, depression, apathy, etc) are normal psychological reactions to calorie restriction. It’s not surprising that people have observed them in themselves and others.

Also, you have to imagine that nearly every fat person has gone through week/months/years where they have calorie restricted. People are generalizing their own experiences.

This is true of calorie restriction, I absolutely believe it.

But it's also important for people to understand: SOME WOMEN ARE THIN WITHOUT CALORIE RESTRICTION.

Cue a bunch of posters telling me I'm wrong, that there's no such thing as a person whose natural weight while eating healthily is a size 0 or 2, or that this can only be true for very young women, or very tall women, or women of certain races.

I am very big on body acceptance but I think it should apply to everyone. I've noticed that a lot of women, specifically, think it should only apply to certain groups. This thread is a good example of that.

You bring up a valid point- there are women who are naturally thin. I do think perhaps there are more whose restrictive eating is like breathing at a certain point- they are not aware of it. In my experience, thin women eat very little- there certainly may be a genetic component that keeps them satiated longer.

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Anonymous wrote:I was just wondering about this today. I see a lot of rich men, and often the women theyre with are not very attractive in the face (like at all), but they're almost always pin thin.

Just wondering why this is. Is it a generational thing, since "thin was in" for boomers and it's mostly boomers and Xers with the wealth at this point? Status symbol? The men just like it without any outside influence from society? Any thoughts?

I like thin women. Blue collar guys like thick women. Why? Who knows.

Probably because that is who available to them. Like attracts like.

I dont think that's true... a lot of these blue collar guys are hot and ripped AF. They have six packs. I have spent time in blue collar communities, and there are plenty of really skinny women running around. But often you will see the hot construction worker type men running around with very curvy women.

Hmm guess that's not the norm everywhere. I don't see a lot of hot construction workers ever really. Unless we have wildly different ideas of hotness.

I'm from DC originally so it was definitely a bit of a surprise. A lot of those blue collar men down south are HOT AF and I was not mentally prepared. They have insane muscular structure from working outside all day (I dont know if all of them are construction workers or what theyre all doing, just that it appears to be blue collar). Definitely not your DC wonks!

Well, I live out west and this is not remotely true. Guess it's a souther thing.

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That's probably why I specified the south.... lmao.

It wasn't stated up front, it was presented as fact until you followed up. I stand by what I said, like attract likes because that's what I see if we're going off our lived experiences.

Another former southerner who can speak for some ripped blue collar guys. Most not in construction however they are usually never without women following them around.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Just wow.

This thread is basically a way for people to hate on thin people. Fat people can’t conceive of a world where thin women aren’t miserable. Where they are just naturally thin or do a good job taking care of themselves without some disorder. You can’t conceive that thin, happy women exist. They must be miserable! (Why? Oh right, because you are miserable.)

Jeff, if this were reversed and there were all this bigoted fat bashing, this thread would get shut down in a hot minute. Why don’t all you sad people go for a walk?

How is anyone "bashing" thin people? The OP just observed a phenomenon and asked a question about it. People have been sharing their opinions on either side, and it's pretty civil. Why does this question bother you?

"Maybe, but the older thin women seem exceptionally bitter and miserable. They don’t just hate fat. They hate everything."

"Sounds really awful to be a woman who has to have a major focus on body maintenance in their 40s and 50s or else face divorce/ being switched out for a newer model."

This one is especially a doozy:
"They are also, bar none, the collectively most miserable old people. Their anger and bitterness is overwhelming when you talk with them. They are absolutely disgusted by fat, but also by pretty much everything else in life."

"...their taste everything eat nothing, G&T diets."

"...she is not sure she’s ever met a genuinely happy thin older woman. ... She almost thinks it is physiological, like a lifetime spent watching food intake turns into permanent anhedonia and an inability to love."

Someone who is angry it's hard for herself to stay thin decides all thin women are miserable like she is. She also conflates "not having enough calories" with "being thin", as though people who aren't fat are automatically starving themselves.
"As someone who used to be extremely thin, I think it does make you miserable. When you dont have enough calories, your body starts literally taking fat from the brain. It's not to say anyone has to be overweight, but I think a normal weight might be healthier. Whatever you have to do to maintain such a low body fat, seems to make people kind of miserable."

Read the Minnesota starvation experiment. All of these things (finding normal size people disgusting, depression, apathy, etc) are normal psychological reactions to calorie restriction. It’s not surprising that people have observed them in themselves and others.

Also, you have to imagine that nearly every fat person has gone through week/months/years where they have calorie restricted. People are generalizing their own experiences.

Let’s try this again:
Just because you are thin does not mean you are starving yourself and are miserable. Is this what you people really think? Good Christ.

No. This thread isn’t about people who are naturally thin. It’s about people who starve themselves to achieve a certain look and status.

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OP here. Maybe this thread has gone a bit off course. I guess my point is that I observe men married to EXTREMELY thin women, like not just "normal BMI" slim, but very, very thin. A good example of this would be someone like Taylor Swift. The women I observe married to very wealthy men tend to have her body type from when she says she was unhealthily dieting

Whereas I think she looks really stunning now


And I guess I'm just curious as to why that is. No judgement in either direction

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Wealthy well educated people marry each other more often than not. Wealthy educated people have better access to healthy foods and are more likely to be raised knowing the value of diet and exercise.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Just wow.

This thread is basically a way for people to hate on thin people. Fat people can’t conceive of a world where thin women aren’t miserable. Where they are just naturally thin or do a good job taking care of themselves without some disorder. You can’t conceive that thin, happy women exist. They must be miserable! (Why? Oh right, because you are miserable.)

Jeff, if this were reversed and there were all this bigoted fat bashing, this thread would get shut down in a hot minute. Why don’t all you sad people go for a walk?

How is anyone "bashing" thin people? The OP just observed a phenomenon and asked a question about it. People have been sharing their opinions on either side, and it's pretty civil. Why does this question bother you?

"Maybe, but the older thin women seem exceptionally bitter and miserable. They don’t just hate fat. They hate everything."

"Sounds really awful to be a woman who has to have a major focus on body maintenance in their 40s and 50s or else face divorce/ being switched out for a newer model."

This one is especially a doozy:
"They are also, bar none, the collectively most miserable old people. Their anger and bitterness is overwhelming when you talk with them. They are absolutely disgusted by fat, but also by pretty much everything else in life."

"...their taste everything eat nothing, G&T diets."

"...she is not sure she’s ever met a genuinely happy thin older woman. ... She almost thinks it is physiological, like a lifetime spent watching food intake turns into permanent anhedonia and an inability to love."

Someone who is angry it's hard for herself to stay thin decides all thin women are miserable like she is. She also conflates "not having enough calories" with "being thin", as though people who aren't fat are automatically starving themselves.
"As someone who used to be extremely thin, I think it does make you miserable. When you dont have enough calories, your body starts literally taking fat from the brain. It's not to say anyone has to be overweight, but I think a normal weight might be healthier. Whatever you have to do to maintain such a low body fat, seems to make people kind of miserable."

Read the Minnesota starvation experiment. All of these things (finding normal size people disgusting, depression, apathy, etc) are normal psychological reactions to calorie restriction. It’s not surprising that people have observed them in themselves and others.

Also, you have to imagine that nearly every fat person has gone through week/months/years where they have calorie restricted. People are generalizing their own experiences.

This is true of calorie restriction, I absolutely believe it.

But it's also important for people to understand: SOME WOMEN ARE THIN WITHOUT CALORIE RESTRICTION.

Cue a bunch of posters telling me I'm wrong, that there's no such thing as a person whose natural weight while eating healthily is a size 0 or 2, or that this can only be true for very young women, or very tall women, or women of certain races.

I am very big on body acceptance but I think it should apply to everyone. I've noticed that a lot of women, specifically, think it should only apply to certain groups. This thread is a good example of that.

While I agree, I think the point of the discussion was whether rich men agree. To which I would say no, they generally do not. Being and maintaining a certain type of body is part of the bargain when you go for a rich guy. I also think rich people are deluding themselves when they say things like ‘My husband loves that I naturally don’t care about dieting or exercise.” I highly doubt he would be saying that if the wife were pudgy. “Naturally” thin is part of the status/lifestyle.

I was a nanny for a rich family in college, I knew them very well. I didn’t want to be them, especially the wife. If that is what you strive for, fine, but have room for those who don’t hold you on a pedestal.