IDK, this is a lot of generalizing. If you look on Reddit of infidelity forums, sometimes it seems like it's ALL betrayed men trying to deal with wayward wives. At least, that's how it seems to me as a BW who is mainly looking to connect with other BW. I'm like, scroll, scroll, scroll . . . And believe me, these men are not "getting off easy" or going right to divorce. My husband entered therapy after his affair and he continued it. I think he just likes having someone to talk to about himself (that's a pretty universal feeling). The affair was several years ago and is no longer his focus. It's mainly just the stuff of adulting and kind of minor family-of-origin issues. I do think that if he'd had a smidge more self-awareness and grown-up-ed-ness, he probably would not have had an affair. But yeah, I don't think his issues were all that deep or terrible, but everyone, including me, can benefit from digging deeper and learning new skills. |
The OP is not "clearly" a troll and Jeff did not confirm. Based on my own experience I'd say it's more likely the OP is not feeling up to chatting about her wrecked life at the moment even though she may have originally thought she was. The topic did give a lot of people the opportunity to chat about infidelity though and that's always fun, right? |
Who cares? Over 10 pages of good conversation that could help others. |
Well said. If you are a single man and seek sex it's healthy and normal. If you are married and lonely and seek sek it's because you are a broken loon who has a massive defect. Monogamy is hard, and it's really, really hard for men and darn near impossible if he isn't in a loving marriage. Women don't understand this and I envy them. |
If you would actually go to therapy you would know that therapy isn't for "broken loons who have massive defects." It's for flawed people, which means literally everyone. And do you really think it's any more healthy and normal for a married man to have an affair than it is for a single man to...not have an affair? If you do then goodness gracious what on earth does marriage mean to you? Why get married at all if you think it doesn't mean you have obligations to your spouse? It's hilarious that you don't think monogamy is hard for women. |
THIS!! |
Most men could benefit from therapy because they don't have male best friends to bond with. Not all! just a lot. We don't value male emotions and friendships, so they suffer. And the reason men go to therapy is becuase their wives want them to ... because their wife is going to stay with them. If women are having exit affairs what is the point of therapy? She's really just out of there. My SO (male) is a man who doesn't have close male friends. I wish he did so he'd have somebody to talk with about male emotional things. I'm too close to the situation. But a therapist would fit the bill. A paid friend and confidant. Monogamy is hard for almost everybody. |
I mean marriage is hard for everyone and to think you’re not going to have ups and downs in life and marriage is not realistic. This means it comes down to your moral compass and what’s acceptable to you. If you are likely to cheat, it’s good to get a divorce first. At least you can maintain your own integrity. Do you value your own integrity and do you value how you may affect your family (wife/kids)? It comes down to those 2 questions. |
Try being a married woman and admitting to finding monogamy hard. Quickest road to being roasted on the stake. And a married mother!!? No one has sympathy for that. A married mother should not have any feelings or needs, let alone sexual ones! |
My husband has good friends, but they don't talk about deep feelings, fears, insecurities. His best friend is a cheater so there's that too. He isn't sympathetic to being monogamous so it's not like he can discuss that with him. He has pretty much pulled away as this guy has turned out at 50 to be much different than he sees himself, doesn't condone the cheating. |
I want to add--therapy at 50 was life changing for him. He was the type who thought therapy was for the weak or seriously mentally ill. He is so much healthier and happier now. |
DP, not the one to whom you're replying. Just to say, my own DH is like yours--his once-good friend who was his best man carried on a long affair and DH completely pulled away. DH essentially picked the wife, who was our close friend, over the husband who cheated. Decent guys who are monogamous don't want to be around the selfishness of men who cheat. If DH had not cut off this former friend, I'd have had some real issues with DH. |
Same goes for decent women. Decent women don't want to be around women that cheat on their husbands either. |
So true. Skanks. |
What do you mean he went dry, like never ejaculated for a year? |