Africans and blacks in Ukraine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Making this crisis about the treatment of small minority of POCs is the equivalent of harping 'All lives matter' during BLM protests.

It's chaos, people have to fend for themselves, there's a stampede for the trains and you have to wait for hours at the border - you haven't notices Ukrainians are going through the exact same thing?

Exactly. This is a Russian disinformation campaign to do nothing more than sow discord. Stoking racial divisions in the west - because the west is obsessed with race everything - was a strategy highlighted by Aleksandr Dugin for waging asymmetric war against the west in order to re-build the Russian empire.

While I feel for Ukraine, see how they are fighting for their country from the top down and applaud them for that, I also see racism at the borders from what is being shown. Indian students tweeting about their experiences with videos is not Russian propaganda on race.

I look at this as similar to the Titanic - it was rich vs poor then in a time of crisis. Now it is white vs coloreds.

Russia bombed a children cancer hospital. F you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Making this crisis about the treatment of small minority of POCs is the equivalent of harping 'All lives matter' during BLM protests.

It's chaos, people have to fend for themselves, there's a stampede for the trains and you have to wait for hours at the border - you haven't notices Ukrainians are going through the exact same thing?

Exactly. This is a Russian disinformation campaign to do nothing more than sow discord. Stoking racial divisions in the west - because the west is obsessed with race everything - was a strategy highlighted by Aleksandr Dugin for waging asymmetric war against the west in order to re-build the Russian empire.

While I feel for Ukraine, see how they are fighting for their country from the top down and applaud them for that, I also see racism at the borders from what is being shown. Indian students tweeting about their experiences with videos is not Russian propaganda on race.

I look at this as similar to the Titanic - it was rich vs poor then in a time of crisis. Now it is white vs coloreds.

Russia bombed a children cancer hospital. F you.

Go F Russia or yourself. I didn't bomb them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Making this crisis about the treatment of small minority of POCs is the equivalent of harping 'All lives matter' during BLM protests.

It's chaos, people have to fend for themselves, there's a stampede for the trains and you have to wait for hours at the border - you haven't notices Ukrainians are going through the exact same thing?

Exactly. This is a Russian disinformation campaign to do nothing more than sow discord. Stoking racial divisions in the west - because the west is obsessed with race everything - was a strategy highlighted by Aleksandr Dugin for waging asymmetric war against the west in order to re-build the Russian empire.

While I feel for Ukraine, see how they are fighting for their country from the top down and applaud them for that, I also see racism at the borders from what is being shown. Indian students tweeting about their experiences with videos is not Russian propaganda on race.

I look at this as similar to the Titanic - it was rich vs poor then in a time of crisis. Now it is white vs coloreds.

Russia bombed a children cancer hospital. F you.

Go F Russia or yourself. I didn't bomb them.

You excuse Russia and put the blame on Ukraine.

FOR BOMBING CHILDRENS CANCER HOSPITAL

F YOU

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Making this crisis about the treatment of small minority of POCs is the equivalent of harping 'All lives matter' during BLM protests.

It's chaos, people have to fend for themselves, there's a stampede for the trains and you have to wait for hours at the border - you haven't notices Ukrainians are going through the exact same thing?

Exactly. This is a Russian disinformation campaign to do nothing more than sow discord. Stoking racial divisions in the west - because the west is obsessed with race everything - was a strategy highlighted by Aleksandr Dugin for waging asymmetric war against the west in order to re-build the Russian empire.

While I feel for Ukraine, see how they are fighting for their country from the top down and applaud them for that, I also see racism at the borders from what is being shown. Indian students tweeting about their experiences with videos is not Russian propaganda on race.

I look at this as similar to the Titanic - it was rich vs poor then in a time of crisis. Now it is white vs coloreds.

Russia bombed a children cancer hospital. F you.

Go F Russia or yourself. I didn't bomb them.

You excuse Russia and put the blame on Ukraine.

FOR BOMBING CHILDRENS CANCER HOSPITAL

F YOU

No I did not excuse Russia and neither did I blame Ukraine. I think Putin is a monster. In fact I applaud Ukraine for the courage shown by their President and people. I also believe that there are some Ukrainians who are being racists in a crisis, just like how you are a racist.

Racist AH, Go F yourself

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Making this crisis about the treatment of small minority of POCs is the equivalent of harping 'All lives matter' during BLM protests.

It's chaos, people have to fend for themselves, there's a stampede for the trains and you have to wait for hours at the border - you haven't notices Ukrainians are going through the exact same thing?

Exactly. This is a Russian disinformation campaign to do nothing more than sow discord. Stoking racial divisions in the west - because the west is obsessed with race everything - was a strategy highlighted by Aleksandr Dugin for waging asymmetric war against the west in order to re-build the Russian empire.

While I feel for Ukraine, see how they are fighting for their country from the top down and applaud them for that, I also see racism at the borders from what is being shown. Indian students tweeting about their experiences with videos is not Russian propaganda on race.

I look at this as similar to the Titanic - it was rich vs poor then in a time of crisis. Now it is white vs coloreds.

Russia bombed a children cancer hospital. F you.

Go F Russia or yourself. I didn't bomb them.

You excuse Russia and put the blame on Ukraine.

FOR BOMBING CHILDRENS CANCER HOSPITAL

F YOU

No I did not excuse Russia and neither did I blame Ukraine. I think Putin is a monster. In fact I applaud Ukraine for the courage shown by their President and people. I also believe that there are some Ukrainians who are being racists in a crisis, just like how you are a racist.

Racist AH, Go F yourself

Bullsh-t. You're furthering a troll's agenda to smear Ukraine with racism, and in doing so, tacitly approving Russia's aggression.

YOU ENDORSE THE SLAUGHTER OF INNOCENT CHILDREN.

F YOU, YOU POS

[Anonymous]

Russian warship, go f*ck yourself!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Making this crisis about the treatment of small minority of POCs is the equivalent of harping 'All lives matter' during BLM protests.

It's chaos, people have to fend for themselves, there's a stampede for the trains and you have to wait for hours at the border - you haven't notices Ukrainians are going through the exact same thing?

Exactly. This is a Russian disinformation campaign to do nothing more than sow discord. Stoking racial divisions in the west - because the west is obsessed with race everything - was a strategy highlighted by Aleksandr Dugin for waging asymmetric war against the west in order to re-build the Russian empire.

While I feel for Ukraine, see how they are fighting for their country from the top down and applaud them for that, I also see racism at the borders from what is being shown. Indian students tweeting about their experiences with videos is not Russian propaganda on race.

I look at this as similar to the Titanic - it was rich vs poor then in a time of crisis. Now it is white vs coloreds.

Russia bombed a children cancer hospital. F you.

Go F Russia or yourself. I didn't bomb them.

You excuse Russia and put the blame on Ukraine.

FOR BOMBING CHILDRENS CANCER HOSPITAL

F YOU

No I did not excuse Russia and neither did I blame Ukraine. I think Putin is a monster. In fact I applaud Ukraine for the courage shown by their President and people. I also believe that there are some Ukrainians who are being racists in a crisis, just like how you are a racist.

Racist AH, Go F yourself

Bullsh-t. You're furthering a troll's agenda to smear Ukraine with racism, and in doing so, tacitly approving Russia's aggression.

YOU ENDORSE THE SLAUGHTER OF INNOCENT CHILDREN.

F YOU, YOU POS

OP may be an undercover Putin spy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is that Poland is opening its borders ONLY for Ukrainian refugees due to war. If you are from India or Africa, it is very difficult to verify that you are legitimately fleeing war in the Ukraine and that you were there legally and aren't using the chaos to try to enter Poland as an authorized immigrant. If they are students, they should have left weeks ago.

Poland is letting people in. It is the Ukrainian soldiers who are not letting these people out. Putin is scum but what the Ukrainian soldiers are doing is not right. These videos of Indian and Nigerian students not allowed to pass, being beaten by Ukrainian soldiers does not look good. Any wonder why Nigeria and India are neutral?

Why would Ukrainian soldiers NOT let people out if they could? You think they want more people to feed, deal with housing and waste management, and all of that? These aren't people who are going to fight -- they are trying to leave. Ukrainian soldiers have every incentive to get them out and save resources for the citizens who are staying.

The only incentive NOT to is what was mentioned by a PP above -- when they get turned around at the border to Poland or wherever, it causes more work and time to reprocessing them.

This is a stupid talking point that makes no sense when you look at it more closely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is that Poland is opening its borders ONLY for Ukrainian refugees due to war. If you are from India or Africa, it is very difficult to verify that you are legitimately fleeing war in the Ukraine and that you were there legally and aren't using the chaos to try to enter Poland as an authorized immigrant. If they are students, they should have left weeks ago.

Poland is letting people in. It is the Ukrainian soldiers who are not letting these people out. Putin is scum but what the Ukrainian soldiers are doing is not right. These videos of Indian and Nigerian students not allowed to pass, being beaten by Ukrainian soldiers does not look good. Any wonder why Nigeria and India are neutral?

Why would Ukrainian soldiers NOT let people out if they could? You think they want more people to feed, deal with housing and waste management, and all of that? These aren't people who are going to fight -- they are trying to leave. Ukrainian soldiers have every incentive to get them out and save resources for the citizens who are staying.

The only incentive NOT to is what was mentioned by a PP above -- when they get turned around at the border to Poland or wherever, it causes more work and time to reprocessing them.

This is a stupid talking point that makes no sense when you look at it more closely.

That's how immigration works. People who entered the USA without proper paperwork are sent back to the country of departure. The airline that brought them are responsible for a return flight.

[Anonymous]

"The first flight with 219 students landed in India. But there are 18,000 Indian students in Ukraine. From the videos posted in Indian media, they were just as surprised as the Ukrainians since the Ukrainian media kept saying there would be no invasion."

Well they are incompetent then. Biden has been warning Americans to GET OUT for two weeks now I think and underscoring we are NOT coming in to Ukraine to get Americans that ignore that warning. How did other countries hear the US & State Dept telling our citizens "you're about to up a creek w/o a paddle if you don't get yourself over a border ASAP" and not start at least planning on how they're going to evacuate their own people?

That may be easier for some countries than others but India is a major power - they certainly should have known this was coming and started preparing for how they were going to deal with their people

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"The first flight with 219 students landed in India. But there are 18,000 Indian students in Ukraine. From the videos posted in Indian media, they were just as surprised as the Ukrainians since the Ukrainian media kept saying there would be no invasion."

Well they are incompetent then. Biden has been warning Americans to GET OUT for two weeks now I think and underscoring we are NOT coming in to Ukraine to get Americans that ignore that warning. How did other countries hear the US & State Dept telling our citizens "you're about to up a creek w/o a paddle if you don't get yourself over a border ASAP" and not start at least planning on how they're going to evacuate their own people?

That may be easier for some countries than others but India is a major power - they certainly should have known this was coming and started preparing for how they were going to deal with their people

DP. No, not really. Putin has said a bunch of stuff -- no one thought he was going to invade Ukraine from all (most) sides. No one expected this.

Nor did anyone expect Zelensky to be such a great war president or for Europe to react so strongly and quickly against Russia. No one expected that either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they are students, they were told weeks ago to leave. That is on their embassy/country to get them out.

If they are illegal immigrants....well, that's the risk you take when you are in foreign countries illegally and S hits the fan. A country is going to take care of its own citizens when disasters strike before the needs of foreign nationals who are there unauthorized.

Especially when there’s not much they can do with them. What do people think would have happened if Ukraine had let them cross the border, that Poland would just let them waltz in? Of course not. Without the proper documentation, they would have been sent back to Ukraine, and then Ukraine would have been slowed down that much more in processing people to leave in order to process those people back into the country.

OP never answered the question of the legal status of these people. Entries are country specific even under emergency situation. Without passports and visas, they cannot just walk in.

Are you that dumb? So many links above showing students being detained at the Ukrainian border, beaten and you talk about passports and visas. You think they are stupid to get to the border without their passports and visas? They are all young. Many are med students, so they are not dumb sh*t like you.

Which links show Ukrainian officers beating non-white students at border crossings?

Not going to spoon feed you. Look up the thread for the links.

https://www.reddit.com/r/russia/comments/t2r9ze/ukrainian_forces_beating_up_indian_students_and/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Making this crisis about the treatment of small minority of POCs is the equivalent of harping 'All lives matter' during BLM protests.

It's chaos, people have to fend for themselves, there's a stampede for the trains and you have to wait for hours at the border - you haven't notices Ukrainians are going through the exact same thing?

Exactly. This is a Russian disinformation campaign to do nothing more than sow discord. Stoking racial divisions in the west - because the west is obsessed with race everything - was a strategy highlighted by Aleksandr Dugin for waging asymmetric war against the west in order to re-build the Russian empire.

While I feel for Ukraine, see how they are fighting for their country from the top down and applaud them for that, I also see racism at the borders from what is being shown. Indian students tweeting about their experiences with videos is not Russian propaganda on race.

I look at this as similar to the Titanic - it was rich vs poor then in a time of crisis. Now it is white vs coloreds.

Russia bombed a children cancer hospital. F you.

Go F Russia or yourself. I didn't bomb them.

You excuse Russia and put the blame on Ukraine.

FOR BOMBING CHILDRENS CANCER HOSPITAL

F YOU

No I did not excuse Russia and neither did I blame Ukraine. I think Putin is a monster. In fact I applaud Ukraine for the courage shown by their President and people. I also believe that there are some Ukrainians who are being racists in a crisis, just like how you are a racist.

Racist AH, Go F yourself

Let me help you with a tiny bit of fact. The word “racist” is so overused and misstated that absolutely, positively nobody with any intelligence whatsoever is offended or outraged or whatever you hope the word will provoke. Nobody cares. Yawn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"The first flight with 219 students landed in India. But there are 18,000 Indian students in Ukraine. From the videos posted in Indian media, they were just as surprised as the Ukrainians since the Ukrainian media kept saying there would be no invasion."

Well they are incompetent then. Biden has been warning Americans to GET OUT for two weeks now I think and underscoring we are NOT coming in to Ukraine to get Americans that ignore that warning. How did other countries hear the US & State Dept telling our citizens "you're about to up a creek w/o a paddle if you don't get yourself over a border ASAP" and not start at least planning on how they're going to evacuate their own people?

That may be easier for some countries than others but India is a major power - they certainly should have known this was coming and started preparing for how they were going to deal with their people

DP. No, not really. Putin has said a bunch of stuff -- no one thought he was going to invade Ukraine from all (most) sides. No one expected this.

Nor did anyone expect Zelensky to be such a great war president or for Europe to react so strongly and quickly against Russia. No one expected that either.

Other PP here. I don't know about India, but let me tell you that Nigeria couldn't care less about their lambda student abroad. Consular services are pretty much non existent, unless you know somebody. Government is too disorganized to deal with the masses of Nigerians abroad. When the US said people should evacuate that should have set them in motion asap too. They messed up. Should have at least send busses to the EU entry points.

[Anonymous]

OP, the US is in Ukraine right now repatriating US citizens and residents. While they are at it, do you seriously believe the US should also bring back these people you are writing about?