Federal judge rules that admissions changes at nation’s top public school discriminate against Asian

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Anonymous wrote:The Admissions Office was likely to release decisions within the next month before this ruling. Assuming the injunction stays the process for class of 2026, one wonders how the Admissions Office will proceed.

I am most interested in the answer to this question. What is going to happen to the kids who applied under the new system this year?

They have to scrap it and do the admissions process all over again for the class of 2026. The woke white racists lost this round. Maybe they will do it right and look at the Black & Hispanic kids in AAP instead of assuming that they all live in the hood.

That’s not an option that’s reasonably on the table. The applicants are the applicants at this point.

Then they would be violating a court order. Today the judge prohibited the current admission practice. They must start over.

I believe he has just issued an opinion, with an order to issue soon? And if Fairfax appeals, they can seek a stay of any order pending appeal. I doubt this will have any immediate impact (though maybe I’m wrong and an order has issued—if so can someone link to it?)

There is no automatic right of appeal for civil cases in VA, it’s discretionary directly to the VA Supreme Court. Unlikely they get an appeal, very unlikely they get a stay.

It's in federal court. Next stop, Fourth Circuit, potentially.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Deep breaths, folks. I read the decision, and I have to say that I found the evidence of discriminatory intent to be unconvincing. What I perceive is FCPS acting in good faith. The Fourth Circuit is a solidly liberal court.

And the Supreme Court is not. You seem not to appreciate that the Coalition for TJ is playing long ball, and not just thinking about short-term political wins like the School Board.

Not to mention that anyone could read the decision and not appreciate that the School Board’s decisions were politically motivated, unprincipled, and driven by a naked desire to favor some students at the expense of Asian kids. Kudos to the judge for looking behind the smoke screen that FCPS tried to manufacture to obfuscate its true intent.

I have no dog in this hunt and see both sides of the argument, but note that 1) CA4 leans left; and 2) SCt review is entirely discretionary, such that they may not ever grant cert (in other words, not take an appeal). And the more this decision is based on facts (such as school board emails and the like), the less likely it would be that the Supreme Court would grant cert.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Deep breaths, folks. I read the decision, and I have to say that I found the evidence of discriminatory intent to be unconvincing. What I perceive is FCPS acting in good faith. The Fourth Circuit is a solidly liberal court.

So liberals are solidly against Asians now?

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Anonymous wrote:Looking forward to the appeal to the 4th circuit.

It'll be reversed, I woud imagine.

Certainly!

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Anonymous wrote:Looking forward to the appeal to the 4th circuit.

It'll be reversed, I woud imagine.

And if that happens the Supreme Court will reverse it again I expect

With 100% certainty!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Deep breaths, folks. I read the decision, and I have to say that I found the evidence of discriminatory intent to be unconvincing. What I perceive is FCPS acting in good faith. The Fourth Circuit is a solidly liberal court.

And the Supreme Court is not. You seem not to appreciate that the Coalition for TJ is playing long ball, and not just thinking about short-term political wins like the School Board.

Not to mention that anyone could read the decision and not appreciate that the School Board’s decisions were politically motivated, unprincipled, and driven by a naked desire to favor some students at the expense of Asian kids. Kudos to the judge for looking behind the smoke screen that FCPS tried to manufacture to obfuscate its true intent.

I have no dog in this hunt and see both sides of the argument, but note that 1) CA4 leans left; and 2) SCt review is entirely discretionary, such that they may not ever grant cert (in other words, not take an appeal). And the more this decision is based on facts (such as school board emails and the like), the less likely it would be that the Supreme Court would grant cert.

There could also be intervening higher court cases that tie the hands of the Fourth Circuit before they issue any decision.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Deep breaths, folks. I read the decision, and I have to say that I found the evidence of discriminatory intent to be unconvincing. What I perceive is FCPS acting in good faith. The Fourth Circuit is a solidly liberal court.

And the Supreme Court is not. You seem not to appreciate that the Coalition for TJ is playing long ball, and not just thinking about short-term political wins like the School Board.

Not to mention that anyone could read the decision and not appreciate that the School Board’s decisions were politically motivated, unprincipled, and driven by a naked desire to favor some students at the expense of Asian kids. Kudos to the judge for looking behind the smoke screen that FCPS tried to manufacture to obfuscate its true intent.

I have no dog in this hunt and see both sides of the argument, but note that 1) CA4 leans left; and 2) SCt review is entirely discretionary, such that they may not ever grant cert (in other words, not take an appeal). And the more this decision is based on facts (such as school board emails and the like), the less likely it would be that the Supreme Court would grant cert.

There could also be intervening higher court cases that tie the hands of the Fourth Circuit before they issue any decision.

You mean a Supreme Court decision on this issue? Is one pending?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Deep breaths, folks. I read the decision, and I have to say that I found the evidence of discriminatory intent to be unconvincing. What I perceive is FCPS acting in good faith. The Fourth Circuit is a solidly liberal court.

And the Supreme Court is not. You seem not to appreciate that the Coalition for TJ is playing long ball, and not just thinking about short-term political wins like the School Board.

Not to mention that anyone could read the decision and not appreciate that the School Board’s decisions were politically motivated, unprincipled, and driven by a naked desire to favor some students at the expense of Asian kids. Kudos to the judge for looking behind the smoke screen that FCPS tried to manufacture to obfuscate its true intent.

I have no dog in this hunt and see both sides of the argument, but note that 1) CA4 leans left; and 2) SCt review is entirely discretionary, such that they may not ever grant cert (in other words, not take an appeal). And the more this decision is based on facts (such as school board emails and the like), the less likely it would be that the Supreme Court would grant cert.

There could also be intervening higher court cases that tie the hands of the Fourth Circuit before they issue any decision.

DP. No way. The Harvard/UNC matter won't be decide for about a year and a half. And it's far from certain that the Court will issue the ruling conservatives want. Roberts seems to value his legacy. And Barrett's views on the issue are unknown. So it's anyone's guess.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Deep breaths, folks. I read the decision, and I have to say that I found the evidence of discriminatory intent to be unconvincing. What I perceive is FCPS acting in good faith. The Fourth Circuit is a solidly liberal court.

So liberals are solidly against Asians now?

Of course not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Deep breaths, folks. I read the decision, and I have to say that I found the evidence of discriminatory intent to be unconvincing. What I perceive is FCPS acting in good faith. The Fourth Circuit is a solidly liberal court.

So liberals are solidly against Asians now?

Of course not.

Yes they are. Actions speak louder than words.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Admissions Office was likely to release decisions within the next month before this ruling. Assuming the injunction stays the process for class of 2026, one wonders how the Admissions Office will proceed.

I am most interested in the answer to this question. What is going to happen to the kids who applied under the new system this year?

They have to scrap it and do the admissions process all over again for the class of 2026. The woke white racists lost this round. Maybe they will do it right and look at the Black & Hispanic kids in AAP instead of assuming that they all live in the hood.

That’s not an option that’s reasonably on the table. The applicants are the applicants at this point.

Then they would be violating a court order. Today the judge prohibited the current admission practice. They must start over.

I believe he has just issued an opinion, with an order to issue soon? And if Fairfax appeals, they can seek a stay of any order pending appeal. I doubt this will have any immediate impact (though maybe I’m wrong and an order has issued—if so can someone link to it?)

There is no automatic right of appeal for civil cases in VA, it’s discretionary directly to the VA Supreme Court. Unlikely they get an appeal, very unlikely they get a stay.

It's in federal court. Next stop, Fourth Circuit, potentially.

This decision was clearly judicial activism. It will get laughed out fhe 4th circuit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Deep breaths, folks. I read the decision, and I have to say that I found the evidence of discriminatory intent to be unconvincing. What I perceive is FCPS acting in good faith. The Fourth Circuit is a solidly liberal court.

So liberals are solidly against Asians now?

Of course not.

Yes they are. Actions speak louder than words.

The GOP would have you believe this, but let's face it, those white nationalists are definitely not on your side.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Deep breaths, folks. I read the decision, and I have to say that I found the evidence of discriminatory intent to be unconvincing. What I perceive is FCPS acting in good faith. The Fourth Circuit is a solidly liberal court.

So liberals are solidly against Asians now?

Of course not.

Yes they are. Actions speak louder than words.

Yes, they are. That’s clear from the start. With the all D school board, Brabrand, and the numerous posts in DCUM land that effectively show the pulse of the liberal agenda. And look at what happened in San Francisco.

Stating that the judge is a right winger ( as a previous post did) and adding that the 4th circuit is “solidly liberal” is loud and clear. Along with the multitude digs about ‘tiger moms’ and ‘robots’ and ‘cheaters’. Add to that the complete apathy about how it’s totally okay to create systemic discrimination or ethnic cleansing of Asians- (as another poster said the previous admissions was ethnic cleansing blacks).

If you haven’t figured out liberals hate Asians, you’re still drinking the Kool-Aid. My vote is independent now. This goes beyond TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Deep breaths, folks. I read the decision, and I have to say that I found the evidence of discriminatory intent to be unconvincing. What I perceive is FCPS acting in good faith. The Fourth Circuit is a solidly liberal court.

So liberals are solidly against Asians now?

Of course not.

Yes they are. Actions speak louder than words.

The GOP would have you believe this, but let's face it, those white nationalists are definitely not on your side.

And this is alway the Democrats response. Sorry, saying that your bad is better than their bad is not a platform.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Deep breaths, folks. I read the decision, and I have to say that I found the evidence of discriminatory intent to be unconvincing. What I perceive is FCPS acting in good faith. The Fourth Circuit is a solidly liberal court.

So liberals are solidly against Asians now?

Of course not.

Yes they are. Actions speak louder than words.

The GOP would have you believe this, but let's face it, those white nationalists are definitely not on your side.

And this is alway the Democrats response. Sorry, saying that your bad is better than their bad is not a platform.

Exactly, it goes way beyond TJ. As an Asian American, I will never vote for democrats again for any office.