Liberal policing and policies in San Francisco

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Anonymous wrote:Having to pay money for goods is a racist institution of white supremacy.

I think we are on the right track to fix this. It’s going to take a few more years but as we see more and more republicans die off, it will get better. UBI is the answer to this problem that makes the Rich very uncomfortable.

I thought at first this was parody, but I see now that you are serious. Not sure about the first poster.
If so, wow.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s crazy how people jump on the bandwagon for these, obviously less effective criminal justice laws, and then are shocked when their political party loses power as crime rises. Like shocked pikachu face how did I not know that ending policing in a violent neighborhood would result in a 30% murder increase? Or who knew taking shoplifting less than $1000 would only result in a misdemeanor would somehow spur a shoplifting crimewave?

This has me concerned because I am liberal. Not a progressive a moderate liberal.

What happens when republicans win and the pendulum swings the other way and there is a massive crack down on crime that disproportionately hits people…basically it’s hard to find a good policing middle ground, but this lax crap needs to stop.

Honest question though. Why is it considered a massive Republican crackdown when it is literally enforcing the law and protecting property rights? This is an opportunity to stop playing partisan games and identify bad policy and do something about it.

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It’s disgusting that caring about our laws and not wanting a business robbed or looted or people to be assaulted is apparently a “republican” idea now.

You might not like “stop and frisk”, and I think there’s a valid discussion to be had about that. But we’d better start cracking down hard on criminals or next year there’s gonna be a red wave like we’ve never seen before.

Bring back law enforcement and policing practices that lead to inherently unequal justice outcomes? Yea keep trying to reimpose this through fear-mongering.

It is not "unequal" when criminals are prosecuted and laws are imposed. It is not "disproportionate" when the ones prosecuted are the criminals. I don't give a crap what the color of their skin is for god's sake. This line of thinking will absolutely be the death of this country if we aren't careful.

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This crowd won't hear of it though. "rAcIsM!!"

[Anonymous]

SF, Portland, Seattle, etc. are all very instructive in their own way. They're microcosms of what this country would look like if progressive leaders were in charge with no pushback from moderates and Republicans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having to pay money for goods is a racist institution of white supremacy.

I think we are on the right track to fix this. It’s going to take a few more years but as we see more and more republicans die off, it will get better. UBI is the answer to this problem that makes the Rich very uncomfortable.

I thought at first this was parody, but I see now that you are serious. Not sure about the first poster.
If so, wow.

First poster here. Whites have more money in the current economic system. Clearly this is because capitalism is a western institution erected for the exclusive benefit of whites and those who have betrayed the authenticity of their own culture to become white-like. Voluntary exchange and personal freedom are simply tools of white supremacy and must be eliminated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having to pay money for goods is a racist institution of white supremacy.

I think we are on the right track to fix this. It’s going to take a few more years but as we see more and more republicans die off, it will get better. UBI is the answer to this problem that makes the Rich very uncomfortable.

I thought at first this was parody, but I see now that you are serious. Not sure about the first poster.
If so, wow.

First poster here. Whites have more money in the current economic system. Clearly this is because capitalism is a western institution erected for the exclusive benefit of whites and those who have betrayed the authenticity of their own culture to become white-like. Voluntary exchange and personal freedom are simply tools of white supremacy and must be eliminated.

Heroin is a helluva drug.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SF, Portland, Seattle, etc. are all very instructive in their own way. They're microcosms of what this country would look like if progressive leaders were in charge with no pushback from moderates and Republicans.

This. Time to start voting r.

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The obsession trump supporters have with the Bay Area is instructive because, like Trump, they are deeply insecure. The area is run by people to left, it has serious issues of affordability and homelessness, but it is an economic powerhouse and is the greatest attractor of tech talent in the world. The demand to live in the Bay Area is high, and salaries the tech talent command are enormous. Many of my friends made enough to retire by 35 and now just work as free lancers because they like to work a little to stay sharp.

Backwards rural trumpistan residents, on the other hand, are in general shockingly obese, and dying young and poor. That is where the real public health crisis is. Not to mention the greater percentage of people who need my tax dollars to survive

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The obsession trump supporters have with the Bay Area is instructive because, like Trump, they are deeply insecure. The area is run by people to left, it has serious issues of affordability and homelessness, but it is an economic powerhouse and is the greatest attractor of tech talent in the world. The demand to live in the Bay Area is high, and salaries the tech talent command are enormous. Many of my friends made enough to retire by 35 and now just work as free lancers because they like to work a little to stay sharp.

Backwards rural trumpistan residents, on the other hand, are in general shockingly obese, and dying young and poor. That is where the real public health crisis is. Not to mention the greater percentage of people who need my tax dollars to survive

You sound deeply insecure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having to pay money for goods is a racist institution of white supremacy.

I think we are on the right track to fix this. It’s going to take a few more years but as we see more and more republicans die off, it will get better. UBI is the answer to this problem that makes the Rich very uncomfortable.

I thought at first this was parody, but I see now that you are serious. Not sure about the first poster.
If so, wow.

First poster here. Whites have more money in the current economic system. Clearly this is because capitalism is a western institution erected for the exclusive benefit of whites and those who have betrayed the authenticity of their own culture to become white-like. Voluntary exchange and personal freedom are simply tools of white supremacy and must be eliminated.

Heroin is a helluva drug.

More like mushrooms.

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Anonymous wrote:Right, the big problem with quality of life in SF is not crime. It is cost of living. SF is beautiful, relative safe for an American city and has pretty good weather. NIMBYism keeps housing supply low. So people can’t afford to live here. If SF was such a hellhole, the average house wouldn’t cost over 1.5 million.

It’s both. You don’t get what you pay for. Filth everywhere

With all of the tech sector billions you'd think SF should and would tax those high flyers to provide the resources to deal with the homeless and clean up the streets. For a supposedly liberal-run city it's odd that isn't happening.

They have thrown simply stupid amounts of money at the problem. It isn't a problem of resources. It is a problem of an ideology that puts the interests of those who contribute nothing to society over those who are indispensable to society.

Sprawling homeless encampments, smash and grab looting gangs, rampant vandalism and property crime of all types... these are all manifestations of an unwillingness to address the problem.

The main problem with homelessness in the Bay Area is not enough housing. Yes, there are also chronically homeless who are unhoused for complex reasons, but the bigger issue in California is lack of housing. Solving this has become completely fraught, with rich people worried about property values and some progressives arguing that increasing the wrong kind of housing stock still unfairly punishes lower income residents. Personally, I just wish it were easier to build more housing here...

As always, the richest f#(&ing it up for everyone else.

If the richest are the ones controlling government, I totally agree.
The wealthy people who live there are not creating the policies in SF. They have a BILLION dollar budget to deal with homelessness. Look to the politicians who are squandering that $$ and not beginning to solve the problem.

SF shows what the progressives can achieve with complete control of the local and state government and practically unlimited resources.

Several posters already pointed out above that the tech-sector libertarians subvert a lot of policy in SF.

Seriously? When was the last time someone other than a fringe left candidate was elected in SF? How many years has it been since the Democrats had completely control of the state government?

This sounds like the sort of lunacy the Soviets practiced. Decades after they had complete control of everything they continued to hunt for any hint of opposition, real or imagined, all to avoid admitting the simple truth, that their model simply didn't work.

The progressive policies that have been implemented in CA simply don't work, and the progressives have nobody to blame for their failure than themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having to pay money for goods is a racist institution of white supremacy.

I think we are on the right track to fix this. It’s going to take a few more years but as we see more and more republicans die off, it will get better. UBI is the answer to this problem that makes the Rich very uncomfortable.

I thought at first this was parody, but I see now that you are serious. Not sure about the first poster.
If so, wow.

First poster here. Whites have more money in the current economic system. Clearly this is because capitalism is a western institution erected for the exclusive benefit of whites and those who have betrayed the authenticity of their own culture to become white-like. Voluntary exchange and personal freedom are simply tools of white supremacy and must be eliminated.

Heroin is a helluva drug.

More like mushrooms.

More like low IQ and zero self awareness……a crippling combination.

[Anonymous]

Former Philly Mayor discusses flash mob looting

[Anonymous]

^ wow, some DAs admitting that they won’t prosecute any shoplifting… wow.

How can they possibly be surprised when this is the result?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Right, the big problem with quality of life in SF is not crime. It is cost of living. SF is beautiful, relative safe for an American city and has pretty good weather. NIMBYism keeps housing supply low. So people can’t afford to live here. If SF was such a hellhole, the average house wouldn’t cost over 1.5 million.

It’s both. You don’t get what you pay for. Filth everywhere

With all of the tech sector billions you'd think SF should and would tax those high flyers to provide the resources to deal with the homeless and clean up the streets. For a supposedly liberal-run city it's odd that isn't happening.

They have thrown simply stupid amounts of money at the problem. It isn't a problem of resources. It is a problem of an ideology that puts the interests of those who contribute nothing to society over those who are indispensable to society.

Sprawling homeless encampments, smash and grab looting gangs, rampant vandalism and property crime of all types... these are all manifestations of an unwillingness to address the problem.

The main problem with homelessness in the Bay Area is not enough housing. Yes, there are also chronically homeless who are unhoused for complex reasons, but the bigger issue in California is lack of housing. Solving this has become completely fraught, with rich people worried about property values and some progressives arguing that increasing the wrong kind of housing stock still unfairly punishes lower income residents. Personally, I just wish it were easier to build more housing here...

As always, the richest f#(&ing it up for everyone else.

If the richest are the ones controlling government, I totally agree.
The wealthy people who live there are not creating the policies in SF. They have a BILLION dollar budget to deal with homelessness. Look to the politicians who are squandering that $$ and not beginning to solve the problem.

SF shows what the progressives can achieve with complete control of the local and state government and practically unlimited resources.

Several posters already pointed out above that the tech-sector libertarians subvert a lot of policy in SF.

Seriously? When was the last time someone other than a fringe left candidate was elected in SF? How many years has it been since the Democrats had completely control of the state government?

This sounds like the sort of lunacy the Soviets practiced. Decades after they had complete control of everything they continued to hunt for any hint of opposition, real or imagined, all to avoid admitting the simple truth, that their model simply didn't work.

The progressive policies that have been implemented in CA simply don't work, and the progressives have nobody to blame for their failure than themselves.

THIS. I see this kind of refusal to acknowledge reality here on DCUM a lot. Along with venomous replies to anyone who dares post facts about failing progressive cities.