The Woke Police Mom

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Yes Larlx, you have scolded me about that many times before." Then get up and move away from her. Put down your drink and go into another room. Leave the circle. Let her absorb that her performative wokeness has gotten to the point that it is derailing social conversation and making others uncomfortable.

FIFY

/s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Yes Larlx, you have scolded me about that many times before." Then get up and move away from her. Put down your drink and go into another room. Leave the circle. Let her absorb that her performative wokeness has gotten to the point that it is derailing social conversation and making others uncomfortable.

FIFY

/s

LMAO. That is one of the funniest posts I have ever seen on DCUM. Larlx so totally needs to become a thing.

[Anonymous]

My older ds has sadly become this way. Everyone asks if she’s joining us when an invite goes out and you can guess what happens when the answer is yes. For myself, I find her condescending and rude, I do not need to be schooled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My older ds has sadly become this way. Everyone asks if she’s joining us when an invite goes out and you can guess what happens when the answer is yes. For myself, I find her condescending and rude, I do not need to be schooled.

It's amazing how y'all can't even hear yourselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She does it because she can. Why does she call herself mom and not parent? Will she have a gender for her non gender conforming child once child makes up mind?

Trans people very sexist with their definition of gender. They tell you how a girl or boy should be defined based on what they want to be.

They need lots support, love, understanding, but got stop dictating everyone else what think.

This is what I’ve never understood about trans people/the trans movement. They argue against stereotypes but insist on becoming one.

Well, did it occur to you, it. Any be because they’ve been forced to fit a stereotype that they don’t fit into their whole life? Is this really that hard to understand?

Kids these days are being subjected to pistols and pearls/ pink and blue stereotypes *before they are even born*.

And first PP, OP called her friend mom; we have no idea if friend did. But even if she did, the important part is that this is how she identifies. I mean, how many people lose their minds on here when Mother’s Day approaches, because Mother’s Day means something to them. In that, people seem to be able to acknowledge that gender norms spit the roles of men and women, but heaven forbid should a child reject those norms.

It’s all so ridiculous. Women want to wear pants? Well, stop rejecting that. A man wants to wear a dress? Well, that’s pretty much sacrilege and purple will freak out. Why?
I’m a 45 year old and we meet at the coffee shop, and chat for a while. We are both coupled, have children. Does my sex or gender really matter? I mean, we’re not going to have sex or be procreating because we had coffee. Are we going to have a relationship going forward? Does I’m gender or sex matter? Why?

This is the whole point. Are we our genders first or people first? Does it change who you choose to have relationships with, and maybe why? What rules are being foisted upon you, or what do you create and accept for yourself because of that? Should it actually matter?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My older ds has sadly become this way. Everyone asks if she’s joining us when an invite goes out and you can guess what happens when the answer is yes. For myself, I find her condescending and rude, I do not need to be schooled.

And the sad part is that you won’t even consider that maybe, yes, you do need to be schooled.

Are you a woman or POC? Because if you are, you should be happy that people made the effort to school others.

[Anonymous]

All this talk about ladybug reminded me of that ladybug in the animation “A Bug’s Life”. The bug was voiced by Denis Leary and had to constantly remind everyone he is not a female lady bug.

[Anonymous]

I wouldn’t be confrontational, but slowly back away from this person. You guys/people will never meet in the middle.

[Anonymous]

OP, you can see in this thread some of the attitudes that your friend is likely reacting against. You're not friends in a bubble, she's likely bringing all of the new stuff she is learning about gender and all the transphobic attitudes and comments she hears to your conversations. Over time, it's likely she will chill out. I would also be annoyed by her comments, because even if you are super aware of gender there was nothing wrong hurtful in what you said: ladybugs are not harmed by misgendering and in our culture we can read objects as having gender. However, it doesn't sound like there was anything mean in her comments, I would try to interpret this as her working through new ideas out loud. I think a friendly and truthful "I never thought of it that way." could work in this situation. Personally, I've had groups of friends break down and it's awful. I would hate to lose a friend group over something pretty little like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She does it because she can. Why does she call herself mom and not parent? Will she have a gender for her non gender conforming child once child makes up mind?

Trans people very sexist with their definition of gender. They tell you how a girl or boy should be defined based on what they want to be.

They need lots support, love, understanding, but got stop dictating everyone else what think.

This is what I’ve never understood about trans people/the trans movement. They argue against stereotypes but insist on becoming one.

Well, did it occur to you, it. Any be because they’ve been forced to fit a stereotype that they don’t fit into their whole life? Is this really that hard to understand?

Kids these days are being subjected to pistols and pearls/ pink and blue stereotypes *before they are even born*.

And first PP, OP called her friend mom; we have no idea if friend did. But even if she did, the important part is that this is how she identifies. I mean, how many people lose their minds on here when Mother’s Day approaches, because Mother’s Day means something to them. In that, people seem to be able to acknowledge that gender norms spit the roles of men and women, but heaven forbid should a child reject those norms.

It’s all so ridiculous. Women want to wear pants? Well, stop rejecting that. A man wants to wear a dress? Well, that’s pretty much sacrilege and purple will freak out. Why?
I’m a 45 year old and we meet at the coffee shop, and chat for a while. We are both coupled, have children. Does my sex or gender really matter? I mean, we’re not going to have sex or be procreating because we had coffee. Are we going to have a relationship going forward? Does I’m gender or sex matter? Why?

This is the whole point. Are we our genders first or people first? Does it change who you choose to have relationships with, and maybe why? What rules are being foisted upon you, or what do you create and accept for yourself because of that? Should it actually matter?

You know trans people change their names to the gender they like. So from Jane they become John. They change their sex defining features to match those of another sex. They say they are non gender conforming, but they perfectly conform. Look at Jazz, she’s become such a girly girl. You can’t tell me she isn’t conforming to the dolled up female stereotype. Look at Elliot Paige! He decided he’s a man and became one. So it’s not that they are non conforming, they like the other gender to it’s extreme.

They are stereotype non conforming.

They still need love, care and understanding.

[Anonymous]

I’d probably just watch what I say around them.

It’s annoying but I also understand they likely have a lot of fear and anxiety about their DC and how DC will be treated by society. Especially since trans/non-binary teenagers have extremely high suicide rates. They’re just trying to create a world where their child feels welcome.

I’d probably also show more interest in how their DC is doing and their perspectives. Often if people feel like you at least care, they ease up on the policing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does she correct you about other stuff too, or just this?

she does this with other things too- all related to race/gender/sexuality issues. Another example: Another neighbor was in the middle of a very compelling story and slipped and said "Master Bedroom". My friend interrupted him and said "Don't you mean primary?!" and proceeded to explain a very long-winded explanation of why that was offensive to say. She totally derailed the story. The story-teller was very gracious and replied with something like "Of course. I am still getting used to switching that. Thank you." and moved right along. But later, she whispered to me "I can't believe he said that." indicated that she was totally appalled. As if 3 years ago, she wasn't using that term herself.

We are all on this journey together and we all WANT to learn and grow. I don't see the benefit in constantly schooling each other. Doesn't seem productive.

[Anonymous]

Using the term "wokeness" means you lose all credibilty.

Go back to your hole. You are an idiot. And get yourself a dictionary before posting again.

Dicitionary.com is easy to read.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Using the term "wokeness" means you lose all credibilty.

Go back to your hole. You are an idiot. And get yourself a dictionary before posting again.

Dicitionary.com is easy to read.

Ok woke SJW!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’d treat it with kindness, and maybe try to see things from their side. It’s obviously a very challenging time in her life, and what she’s saying isn’t wrong - you are using assumptive gender language to describe things. What makes a fabric feminine and why isn’t it just pink fabric with graceful yellow flowers and silver thread?

So, maybe without the judgment about her “wokeness”, challenge yourself own ideas about gender and language. Times are changing, whether you want them to or not, so utilize your friends knowledge and guidance to help get you caught up.

Her point is that sometimes her friend is wrong. Like with the ladybug. It isn't a Theybug.