ECNL North Carolina Spring '21

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Anonymous wrote:Also affects playing time - does a coach play to win or to give all players exposure? Especially when some of the better players are already committed so the others may be the ones in most need of playing time in front of coaches.

It is a problem. All the committed players don't want to have to go but feel they must because the results count and the early commits are often strong players. And they don't want to take playing time from uncommitted team mates but they had to spend the time and money to go as well so want to play. ECNL could fix this so easyil by just having the event be a showcase with self contained results that don't spill over and pollute the playoff standings.

Why would committed players be concerned on team standings?

The coach and club are concerned with this. Some committed players will not attend but they that does not mean that the club is not expecting them to show up. IMO opinion it would best to have pure showcase events and pure tournament events but not mix them up.

At U17 and older coaches are more concerned about players getting committed than they are with results.

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Anonymous wrote:Also affects playing time - does a coach play to win or to give all players exposure? Especially when some of the better players are already committed so the others may be the ones in most need of playing time in front of coaches.

It is a problem. All the committed players don't want to have to go but feel they must because the results count and the early commits are often strong players. And they don't want to take playing time from uncommitted team mates but they had to spend the time and money to go as well so want to play. ECNL could fix this so easyil by just having the event be a showcase with self contained results that don't spill over and pollute the playoff standings.

Why would committed players be concerned on team standings?

The coach and club are concerned with this. Some committed players will not attend but they that does not mean that the club is not expecting them to show up. IMO opinion it would best to have pure showcase events and pure tournament events but not mix them up.

At U17 and older coaches are more concerned about players getting committed than they are with results.

And not having the U17 results count towards some "national" playoff would actually enhance the coaches ability to do that instead of throwing a wrench in the works. Don't see how this structure helps with recruiting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not to mention that all the families of committed players are not that thrilled to lay out all the time and expense to have to travel to a so called "showcase" when they are already committed.

Geez, gotta find something to complain about?
The vast majority of the U15-U17 players attending are not committed. On some teams, committed players can opt not to attend, leaving more playing time for others.

As for the games counting towards a national playoff, this is a compensation for league play being more localized. Note that this showcase does not count towards seeding for Champions League teams. It only applies for the NA cup and down. It provides a leveling effect to some degree, however the seeding is questionable here. It doesn't matter too much though because everyone has to deal with it.

Give me break. Kids play in this league for college exposure, not some fake "national" playoff event glory.

Not true. You obviously were never an athlete with that mentality

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not to mention that all the families of committed players are not that thrilled to lay out all the time and expense to have to travel to a so called "showcase" when they are already committed.

Geez, gotta find something to complain about?
The vast majority of the U15-U17 players attending are not committed. On some teams, committed players can opt not to attend, leaving more playing time for others.

As for the games counting towards a national playoff, this is a compensation for league play being more localized. Note that this showcase does not count towards seeding for Champions League teams. It only applies for the NA cup and down. It provides a leveling effect to some degree, however the seeding is questionable here. It doesn't matter too much though because everyone has to deal with it.

Give me break. Kids play in this league for college exposure, not some fake "national" playoff event glory.

Not true. You obviously were never an athlete with that mentality

Ok. Correction. The families of the kids that pay for all the nonsense. The kids play to win every time, every one of them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also affects playing time - does a coach play to win or to give all players exposure? Especially when some of the better players are already committed so the others may be the ones in most need of playing time in front of coaches.

It is a problem. All the committed players don't want to have to go but feel they must because the results count and the early commits are often strong players. And they don't want to take playing time from uncommitted team mates but they had to spend the time and money to go as well so want to play. ECNL could fix this so easyil by just having the event be a showcase with self contained results that don't spill over and pollute the playoff standings.

Why would committed players be concerned on team standings?

The coach and club are concerned with this. Some committed players will not attend but they that does not mean that the club is not expecting them to show up. IMO opinion it would best to have pure showcase events and pure tournament events but not mix them up.

At U17 and older coaches are more concerned about players getting committed than they are with results.

And not having the U17 results count towards some "national" playoff would actually enhance the coaches ability to do that instead of throwing a wrench in the works. Don't see how this structure helps with recruiting.

It does not assist recruiting. It should be changed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also affects playing time - does a coach play to win or to give all players exposure? Especially when some of the better players are already committed so the others may be the ones in most need of playing time in front of coaches.

It is a problem. All the committed players don't want to have to go but feel they must because the results count and the early commits are often strong players. And they don't want to take playing time from uncommitted team mates but they had to spend the time and money to go as well so want to play. ECNL could fix this so easyil by just having the event be a showcase with self contained results that don't spill over and pollute the playoff standings.

Why would committed players be concerned on team standings?

The coach and club are concerned with this. Some committed players will not attend but they that does not mean that the club is not expecting them to show up. IMO opinion it would best to have pure showcase events and pure tournament events but not mix them up.

At U17 and older coaches are more concerned about players getting committed than they are with results.

And not having the U17 results count towards some "national" playoff would actually enhance the coaches ability to do that instead of throwing a wrench in the works. Don't see how this structure helps with recruiting.

The point was, the coach does not have to coach the event for the sole purpose of results. If they have kids who are not yet recruited the coach will play them. This isn't that hard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not to mention that all the families of committed players are not that thrilled to lay out all the time and expense to have to travel to a so called "showcase" when they are already committed.

Geez, gotta find something to complain about?
The vast majority of the U15-U17 players attending are not committed. On some teams, committed players can opt not to attend, leaving more playing time for others.

As for the games counting towards a national playoff, this is a compensation for league play being more localized. Note that this showcase does not count towards seeding for Champions League teams. It only applies for the NA cup and down. It provides a leveling effect to some degree, however the seeding is questionable here. It doesn't matter too much though because everyone has to deal with it.

Give me break. Kids play in this league for college exposure, not some fake "national" playoff event glory.

Not true. You obviously were never an athlete with that mentality

Ok. Correction. The families of the kids that pay for all the nonsense. The kids play to win every time, every one of them.

Yep. That’s correct

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not to mention that all the families of committed players are not that thrilled to lay out all the time and expense to have to travel to a so called "showcase" when they are already committed.

Geez, gotta find something to complain about?
The vast majority of the U15-U17 players attending are not committed. On some teams, committed players can opt not to attend, leaving more playing time for others.

As for the games counting towards a national playoff, this is a compensation for league play being more localized. Note that this showcase does not count towards seeding for Champions League teams. It only applies for the NA cup and down. It provides a leveling effect to some degree, however the seeding is questionable here. It doesn't matter too much though because everyone has to deal with it.

Give me break. Kids play in this league for college exposure, not some fake "national" playoff event glory.

+1 isn’t that the main purpose of this league? I don’t see championship medal or team ranking as the ticket to college.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also affects playing time - does a coach play to win or to give all players exposure? Especially when some of the better players are already committed so the others may be the ones in most need of playing time in front of coaches.

It is a problem. All the committed players don't want to have to go but feel they must because the results count and the early commits are often strong players. And they don't want to take playing time from uncommitted team mates but they had to spend the time and money to go as well so want to play. ECNL could fix this so easyil by just having the event be a showcase with self contained results that don't spill over and pollute the playoff standings.

Why would committed players be concerned on team standings?

The coach and club are concerned with this. Some committed players will not attend but they that does not mean that the club is not expecting them to show up. IMO opinion it would best to have pure showcase events and pure tournament events but not mix them up.

At U17 and older coaches are more concerned about players getting committed than they are with results.

And not having the U17 results count towards some "national" playoff would actually enhance the coaches ability to do that instead of throwing a wrench in the works. Don't see how this structure helps with recruiting.

The point was, the coach does not have to coach the event for the sole purpose of results. If they have kids who are not yet recruited the coach will play them. This isn't that hard.

And could be less hard if the ECNL would just adjust the structure of the event. What is helpful for recruiting is to have an event structured for the purpose of recruiting. This isn't that hard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also affects playing time - does a coach play to win or to give all players exposure? Especially when some of the better players are already committed so the others may be the ones in most need of playing time in front of coaches.

It is a problem. All the committed players don't want to have to go but feel they must because the results count and the early commits are often strong players. And they don't want to take playing time from uncommitted team mates but they had to spend the time and money to go as well so want to play. ECNL could fix this so easyil by just having the event be a showcase with self contained results that don't spill over and pollute the playoff standings.

Why would committed players be concerned on team standings?

The coach and club are concerned with this. Some committed players will not attend but they that does not mean that the club is not expecting them to show up. IMO opinion it would best to have pure showcase events and pure tournament events but not mix them up.

At U17 and older coaches are more concerned about players getting committed than they are with results.

And not having the U17 results count towards some "national" playoff would actually enhance the coaches ability to do that instead of throwing a wrench in the works. Don't see how this structure helps with recruiting.

The point was, the coach does not have to coach the event for the sole purpose of results. If they have kids who are not yet recruited the coach will play them. This isn't that hard.

And could be less hard if the ECNL would just adjust the structure of the event. What is helpful for recruiting is to have an event structured for the purpose of recruiting. This isn't that hard.

It isn't hard at all. A club coach during prime recruiting years is going to what is necessary to get players committed. It doesn't really matter what you call the event. How hard is this to understand?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also affects playing time - does a coach play to win or to give all players exposure? Especially when some of the better players are already committed so the others may be the ones in most need of playing time in front of coaches.

It is a problem. All the committed players don't want to have to go but feel they must because the results count and the early commits are often strong players. And they don't want to take playing time from uncommitted team mates but they had to spend the time and money to go as well so want to play. ECNL could fix this so easyil by just having the event be a showcase with self contained results that don't spill over and pollute the playoff standings.

Why would committed players be concerned on team standings?

The coach and club are concerned with this. Some committed players will not attend but they that does not mean that the club is not expecting them to show up. IMO opinion it would best to have pure showcase events and pure tournament events but not mix them up.

At U17 and older coaches are more concerned about players getting committed than they are with results.

And not having the U17 results count towards some "national" playoff would actually enhance the coaches ability to do that instead of throwing a wrench in the works. Don't see how this structure helps with recruiting.

The point was, the coach does not have to coach the event for the sole purpose of results. If they have kids who are not yet recruited the coach will play them. This isn't that hard.

And could be less hard if the ECNL would just adjust the structure of the event. What is helpful for recruiting is to have an event structured for the purpose of recruiting. This isn't that hard.

Games must have meaning in order for kids to show. The kids are being seen. Stop the non-sense. ECNL knows what they’re doing

[Anonymous]

Or course they do. They are making money. They are not helping the recruiting by having the stakes at a showcase be other then showcasing. Maybe your players need incentive to show but most do not. Our players always show up regardless of the stakes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also affects playing time - does a coach play to win or to give all players exposure? Especially when some of the better players are already committed so the others may be the ones in most need of playing time in front of coaches.

It is a problem. All the committed players don't want to have to go but feel they must because the results count and the early commits are often strong players. And they don't want to take playing time from uncommitted team mates but they had to spend the time and money to go as well so want to play. ECNL could fix this so easyil by just having the event be a showcase with self contained results that don't spill over and pollute the playoff standings.

Why would committed players be concerned on team standings?

The coach and club are concerned with this. Some committed players will not attend but they that does not mean that the club is not expecting them to show up. IMO opinion it would best to have pure showcase events and pure tournament events but not mix them up.

At U17 and older coaches are more concerned about players getting committed than they are with results.

And not having the U17 results count towards some "national" playoff would actually enhance the coaches ability to do that instead of throwing a wrench in the works. Don't see how this structure helps with recruiting.

The point was, the coach does not have to coach the event for the sole purpose of results. If they have kids who are not yet recruited the coach will play them. This isn't that hard.

And could be less hard if the ECNL would just adjust the structure of the event. What is helpful for recruiting is to have an event structured for the purpose of recruiting. This isn't that hard.

Games must have meaning in order for kids to show. The kids are being seen. Stop the non-sense. ECNL knows what they’re doing

Oh brother. Even the almighty ECNL is not perfect and could use improvements.

[Anonymous]

Write Christian Lavers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Write Christian Lavers

Lol. Why? If there is anyone convinced of the perfection of the ECNL it is probably that guy.