Left is just gaslighting the right

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is not gas lighting when you quote someone's words, verbatim. Sorry charlie.

It is gaslighting when you say "I want an apology" and you get it (acceptance speech + visiting White house graciously) and then you say "nope... that isn't enough! you should have done something else or something different." Its gaslighting because you know that no matter what you will never get over it.

You do not understand the words "apology" or "gas lighting"

Gaslighting: manipulate (someone) by psychological means into questioning their own sanity

The right says "I want secure boarders and for everyone to obey the law"
The left says "you are racist! You are a xenophobe!" ( riot, burn stuff, smash other peoples private property) "if you (the right) showed me some understanding and feel my pain I will stop burning stuff and stop hating you!"
The right thinks Am I crazy? I'm not a racist?
The right says "Lets work this out.... you know we can keep the good stuff in Obama care... Maybe we not need to build a wall..."
The left says "I can't be your friend on facebook and I can never talk to you again"
The right thinks Am I crazy? I thought they said hey wanted me to be aware of their pain and understand them.


I think the OP understands gaslighting

Nice try, but no. Being accused of racism is not gaslighting.

[Anonymous]

The libs are doing the same manipulative crap my ex wife did when we were going through counseling. Shes kept saying that it was me and I needed to fix this thing or that thing before she could move forward and no matter what I did it was never enough. I was living on egg shells for a long time. Looking back I can see that she never really wanted to reconcile things. She just wanted me to be the one to blow things up so she could look innocent and play the sympathy card.

I'm seeing the same dynamic between the right and the libs.

[Anonymous]

I agree op

[Anonymous]

I also agree. The response of the left has been most telling and further solidifies my elation that HRC and the robust cohort of supporters that are going nuts now are not going to be in control of Presidency. Whew, we really dodged a bullet there. If individuals on left feel more than comfortable continuing to bully approx. 1/2 the voting populace for going against their undesirable HRC imagine how Trump supporters would be treated if HRC had won! For all those attacked for voting for Trump take solace in the fact that we have governance on our side..all the facebook defriending, economic vengeance seeking individuals cannot take that away. And I have no doubt, if the lofty goal of getting the electoral college to go against votes of the people in states where Trump won, was used to make HRC president civil war would break out.

[Anonymous]

When exactly has Trump apologized for inciting racism, xenophobia and misogyny? (Let's just set aside his history of taking advantage of the vulnerable as a con man).

He has not.

Talking calmly is not an apology or a change in direction. Bringing the alt right white nationalist leaders into the White House does not reflect an attempt to reach out to the left.

[Anonymous]

I'm a Democrat who voted for Clinton.

I don't know why you're accusing us of gaslighting you when you all are totally doing it to us right now by pretending that your candidate isn't going to do what he said he was going to do during the campaign.

He said he was going to build a wall, and he just told Leslie Stahl he's going to build a wall.

He said harmful, ostracizing things about Muslims and immigrants and women during his campaign, and now we see incidents of his supporters, emboldened by his success, singling out these people and making them feel unsafe and scared, while Trump says nothing against it.

Trump has threatened the First Amendment in the past saying he think newspapers should be sued more and be more vulnerable to financial ruin for what they write. This morning he tweets out his displeasure with the New York Times and we discover he is still moping about an article they ran on him five days ago about the end of his campaign.

You say he will be more presidential and more responsible with the weight of his office, yet today he tweeted out smug, rub-your-nose-in-it announcements of all the never-Trump republicans who graciously called him to acknowledge his win and say congratulations.

In the meantime you tell us that everything's going to be all right and that WE'RE gaslighting YOU? Dudes! We know who he is! Stop pretending we don't!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What OP is saying is that the Clinton supporters are saying 'its your fault we are angry... you need to do/say something to make us not angry' then when you do/say something they say 'you didn't do it right, so I'm still angry.'

Its not any different than when your are in an abusive relationship and the abuser keeps saying I will stop if you only did/said the right thing (i.e., its your fault I'm abusing you). In this example the right wing folks are being abused by the left wing folks. Anyone who says they don't see the analogy are being, at best, purposefully obtuse.

I understand what OP is saying.

You're both nuts.

I am picking up that a lot of Trump supporters now feel guilty about having elected him, or insecure about the fact that their may be repercussions for his supporters when the emerging "minority majority" gets its act together and starts to unseat the Trumpists in a few years. But no number of posts trying to spin the current situation is going to make you feel better. The only way that will happen is if Trump, through word and deed, proves to be a better President than he was a campaigner and actually demonstrates that he realizes the responsibilities he soon will exercise on behalf of all the American people, and not only those who lapped up his campaign rhetoric.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The libs are doing the same manipulative crap my ex wife did when we were going through counseling. Shes kept saying that it was me and I needed to fix this thing or that thing before she could move forward and no matter what I did it was never enough. I was living on egg shells for a long time. Looking back I can see that she never really wanted to reconcile things. She just wanted me to be the one to blow things up so she could look innocent and play the sympathy card.

I'm seeing the same dynamic between the right and the libs.

Cool story, bro.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What OP is saying is that the Clinton supporters are saying 'its your fault we are angry... you need to do/say something to make us not angry' then when you do/say something they say 'you didn't do it right, so I'm still angry.'

Its not any different than when your are in an abusive relationship and the abuser keeps saying I will stop if you only did/said the right thing (i.e., its your fault I'm abusing you). In this example the right wing folks are being abused by the left wing folks. Anyone who says they don't see the analogy are being, at best, purposefully obtuse.

I understand what OP is saying.

You're both nuts.

I am picking up that a lot of Trump supporters now feel guilty about having elected him, or insecure about the fact that their may be repercussions for his supporters when the emerging "minority majority" gets its act together and starts to unseat the Trumpists in a few years. But no number of posts trying to spin the current situation is going to make you feel better. The only way that will happen is if Trump, through word and deed, proves to be a better President than he was a campaigner and actually demonstrates that he realizes the responsibilities he soon will exercise on behalf of all the American people, and not only those who lapped up his campaign rhetoric.

By any objective standard Trump ran a great campaign. He was not supported by his party and he was fighting a war on at least three fronts (Dems, Repubs, Media) and he did it without spending as much as HRC.
Now you may not like his tactics but I can tell you that he was very skillful in what he did. I really believe he has been wanting to run for President for a while but he waited and chose to run this time because he estimated that it was his best shot. He picked a weak opponent in HRC. Plus he beat out 17 other candidates in the primary.

I hope he fights just as hard for the United States.

I understand wanting to help other people (and the whole world) but I learned that you can't help anyone unless you yourself are standing on solid ground. Right now the United States is not standing on solid economic ground and we need to get our own house in order before we try to save the whole freaking world.

[Anonymous]

Trump encourages his supporters to beat up protesters by offering to pay their legal fees and exulting over what they used to do "back in the day." Trump never apologizes for saying these things. And we're supposed to not take him at his word.

I don't think the problem is with us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What OP is saying is that the Clinton supporters are saying 'its your fault we are angry... you need to do/say something to make us not angry' then when you do/say something they say 'you didn't do it right, so I'm still angry.'

Its not any different than when your are in an abusive relationship and the abuser keeps saying I will stop if you only did/said the right thing (i.e., its your fault I'm abusing you). In this example the right wing folks are being abused by the left wing folks. Anyone who says they don't see the analogy are being, at best, purposefully obtuse.

I understand what OP is saying.

You're both nuts.

I am picking up that a lot of Trump supporters now feel guilty about having elected him, or insecure about the fact that their may be repercussions for his supporters when the emerging "minority majority" gets its act together and starts to unseat the Trumpists in a few years. But no number of posts trying to spin the current situation is going to make you feel better. The only way that will happen is if Trump, through word and deed, proves to be a better President than he was a campaigner and actually demonstrates that he realizes the responsibilities he soon will exercise on behalf of all the American people, and not only those who lapped up his campaign rhetoric.

By any objective standard Trump ran a great campaign. He was not supported by his party and he was fighting a war on at least three fronts (Dems, Repubs, Media) and he did it without spending as much as HRC.
Now you may not like his tactics but I can tell you that he was very skillful in what he did. I really believe he has been wanting to run for President for a while but he waited and chose to run this time because he estimated that it was his best shot. He picked a weak opponent in HRC. Plus he beat out 17 other candidates in the primary.

I hope he fights just as hard for the United States.

I understand wanting to help other people (and the whole world) but I learned that you can't help anyone unless you yourself are standing on solid ground. Right now the United States is not standing on solid economic ground and we need to get our own house in order before we try to save the whole freaking world.

The problem is when he was campaigning he was fighting for himself. Now as president he's supposed to fight for us. But this is a man who his whole life has only cared about himself (eg screwing over a lot of working people and small business owners in the interest of making a buck) and suddenly he's going to change? You folks are dreaming

[Anonymous]

OP, you are the first person that I have heard say that Hillary's speech was filled with code words. I agree and have been wondering why I haven't heard it in the press. Her concession speech had the word "fight" in it -- couldn't she find a better word to use for unity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, you are the first person that I have heard say that Hillary's speech was filled with code words. I agree and have been wondering why I haven't heard it in the press. Her concession speech had the word "fight" in it -- couldn't she find a better word to use for unity.

I agree and I voted for her. I didn't think it was the gracious speech it has been portrayed as. Obama's was, however.

[Anonymous]

Wow. Suddenly people who never believed in the existence of dog whistles before say they are hearing dog whistles! And I thought irony was dead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow. Suddenly people who never believed in the existence of dog whistles before say they are hearing dog whistles! And I thought irony was dead.

Logically, if the HRC (democrats) are using tactics called "bird dogging," as has been proven, one would expect to also find dog whistles.