Massive cheating on SAT?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still don’t get it—if their universities are better than ours, why are their students so desperate to get into U.S. colleges, even to the point of cheating? That just doesn’t add up.

And ironically 2024-2025 we see surge in international students in US colleges even with Trump administration.

1. Very difficult to get into top universities in China.

2. Cachet/prestige from studying abroad is a significant advantage in gaining employment in China.

3. Many want opportunity to emigrate to US and college is an initial step in that process.

Okay, but if their economy is supposedly doing better than the U.S., at least according to the media, I don’t get why they’d want to come here at all—given the current economic mess and high unemployment and underemployment for American NGs. Same with Indian students. Why?

[Anonymous]

Universities should require international students from China to deposit the full four years of tuition into an escrow account, retake the test in person at the university , proctored..not by a Chinese TA..when they arrive. If they can’t score within 50 points of their reported score then they forfeit the tuition dollars in escrow and get sent back home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Universities should require international students from China to deposit the full four years of tuition into an escrow account, retake the test in person at the university , proctored..not by a Chinese TA..when they arrive. If they can’t score within 50 points of their reported score then they forfeit the tuition dollars in escrow and get sent back home.

Or have a SAT test day just for Chinese students so they can’t use leaked questions.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know of American student going to china to study? Is that even a thing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still don’t get it—if their universities are better than ours, why are their students so desperate to get into U.S. colleges, even to the point of cheating? That just doesn’t add up.

And ironically 2024-2025 we see surge in international students in US colleges even with Trump administration.

1. Very difficult to get into top universities in China.

2. Cachet/prestige from studying abroad is a significant advantage in gaining employment in China.

3. Many want opportunity to emigrate to US and college is an initial step in that process.

Okay, but if their economy is supposedly doing better than the U.S., at least according to the media, I don’t get why they’d want to come here at all—given the current economic mess and high unemployment and underemployment for American NGs. Same with Indian students. Why?

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Have you been to either of these countries? They are pretty grim places to live for the vast majority of the people there. Of course they are desperate to get out. Life here, even under the orange one, is still infinitely better.

I’m just repeating what the media—and trolls on social media—keep saying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know of American student going to china to study? Is that even a thing?

This comes up a lot in Mandarin-speaking circles, and you can see it on school matriculation lists, where Chinese colleges show up.

[Anonymous]

To be clear, it’s not just Chinese students. Just last year and the year before, I met American students in Germany, something MSNBC has also talked about.

Education is too expensive here.

[Anonymous]

I saw saw some Chinese guy’s reel about how Chinese kids who can’t get into China’s top schools easily get into American top schools.

Buddy, is it because they cheat and copy other people’s work? Is that how they study here too? I’m weary of sending my kid to a college with a large Asian presence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I still don’t get it—if their universities are better than ours, why are their students so desperate to get into U.S. colleges, even to the point of cheating? That just doesn’t add up.

And ironically 2024-2025 we see surge in international students in US colleges even with Trump administration.

Because it’s not open to all students.

[Anonymous]

The time zone cheating has been huge for years with Chinese American students in contact with friends in China to get SAT and AMC/AIME answers within the same day. This is why you are seeing a lot more perfect scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I saw saw some Chinese guy’s reel about how Chinese kids who can’t get into China’s top schools easily get into American top schools.

Buddy, is it because they cheat and copy other people’s work? Is that how they study here too? I’m weary of sending my kid to a college with a large Asian presence.

Asian != Chinese

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The time zone cheating has been huge for years with Chinese American students in contact with friends in China to get SAT and AMC/AIME answers within the same day. This is why you are seeing a lot more perfect scores.

It’s honestly annoying that we have to sit through all this virtue signaling on DCUM about how important tests and grades are supposed to be. I don’t get why anyone would want to ruin their own reputation and credibility like that. This just makes it harder to convince everyone grades are important

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know of American student going to china to study? Is that even a thing?

NYU Shanghai, among others

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The time zone cheating has been huge for years with Chinese American students in contact with friends in China to get SAT and AMC/AIME answers within the same day. This is why you are seeing a lot more perfect scores.

It’s honestly annoying that we have to sit through all this virtue signaling on DCUM about how important tests and grades are supposed to be. I don’t get why anyone would want to ruin their own reputation and credibility like that. This just makes it harder to convince everyone grades are important

Because they have not been getting caught and their cheating is rewarded by college admissions. The families support thiis top 10 or bust.

[Anonymous]

Where do these cheaters who hired consultants to write their essays from scratch end up attending? I mean, those AOs like to say they want to read your true narrative in your own voice, no?