Balanced plant based diet

[Anonymous]

Complex carbs are good. Simple carbs are bad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't eat meat anymore, sometimes eggs and sometimes fish (really only sushi and smoked salmon, occasionally). I find myself eating too many carbs. I'm on semaglutide and not gaining, but also losing at a snail's pace, I think because of the carb-heavy diet. How do you eat a plant based diet that is not too carb heavy? For instance I absolutely love toast with various things on it (veggies, cheese, vegan spreads I make...), that is my favorite thing to eat.

First of all you cannot have a "balanced plant based diet" that doesn't exist. Nobody with any knowledge ever says it does.
Second of all, fish is meat. Fish are not plants or fungi or bacteria.
Third, you never lose fat on a high carb diet. You can lose weight, and get scrawny, but you will have what they call the "skinny-fat" look, like a marathon runner with drooping skin and weak thin muscles.

Ignore this poster. Keep doing what you’re doing OP except drink more water, if you drink a glass before you eat you will eat less. I did this for a while and lost 30lbs.
You can totally have a balanced diet with the options you have chosen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Complex carbs are good. Simple carbs are bad.

This. Also, posters with the cottage cheese eggs yogurt etc etc that seems like a lot of dairy. It sounds quite good to me but I wonder if it will become problematic for anyone as they age, etc (for example I'm not sure I can handle that as I head into peri and high cholesterol). Is it a lot of dairy to some people or is it all right because it's all low fat, cultured, etc?

[Anonymous]

Eat vegetables for crunch.

Make your toast into sandwiches with hummus /avocado/tofu /mashed beans and veggies/leaves/sprouts , and use high protein breads

[Anonymous]

I am struggling with this as well, but because I am at very high risk for diabetes. There is a lot of research out there on lowering diabetes risk, but it seems it generally points to a low-carb low-fat diet being the best. So I'ts a real challenge for me to eat more plant-based meals that are also not very high in carbs. One example of what I do is front load a lot of veggies and then eat a small portion of lentils and rice. I am considering starting to eat tofu but I'm worried because of the controversy surrounding it--also never grew up eating it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am struggling with this as well, but because I am at very high risk for diabetes. There is a lot of research out there on lowering diabetes risk, but it seems it generally points to a low-carb low-fat diet being the best. So I'ts a real challenge for me to eat more plant-based meals that are also not very high in carbs. One example of what I do is front load a lot of veggies and then eat a small portion of lentils and rice. I am considering starting to eat tofu but I'm worried because of the controversy surrounding it--also never grew up eating it.

There is an entire medical team in Washington DC that is centered around: Vegan Diet for Diabetes. And they have a meal program: https://www.pcrm.org/vegankickstart

Greenfare in Herndon has pre-packaged meals for the kickstart that includes blood tests. And cooking lessons on how to make those meals.

The guy who founded this is: Neal Barnard and he authored a number of medical papers on diabetes. He is considered legit in diabetic research. You can see his papers on pubmed just search for his name. The more that referenced his papers the more prestigious the paper. You can argue individual points on each paper but the reference to his papers are where the diabetic research is going to.

Also, the nutrionfacts.org guy lives in Maryland. You should be covered by heavy weights in this field.

[Anonymous]

The nutrition facts.org guy is Dr Gregor, he wrote several books and there are two companion recipe books that are phenomenal!
How not to Die cookbook
How not to diet cookbook
Super healthy recipes and tips for plant based diet.

[Anonymous]

* sorry Dr Greger not Gregor (autocorrect)

[Anonymous]

Avocado. So much avocado.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Complex carbs are good. Simple carbs are bad.

All carbs are technically and scientifically "bad", there are no good ones, but some are simply less harmful than others.

All carbs get broken down into glucose in the body though, except fructose tends to get deposited as fat rather than used in most people.

A plant based diet in general is not healthy at all. Sure it is better than a high-carb diet of junk food, but not nearly as healthy as a more protein and fat based diet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am struggling with this as well, but because I am at very high risk for diabetes. There is a lot of research out there on lowering diabetes risk, but it seems it generally points to a low-carb low-fat diet being the best.

That's a recipe for health problems.
Your body needs fats.
If you are low carb to prevent or treat diabetes, you will be needing most of your calories from fats (saturated and unsaturated, animal and plant)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Complex carbs are good. Simple carbs are bad.

All carbs are technically and scientifically "bad", there are no good ones, but some are simply less harmful than others.

All carbs get broken down into glucose in the body though, except fructose tends to get deposited as fat rather than used in most people.

A plant based diet in general is not healthy at all. Sure it is better than a high-carb diet of junk food, but not nearly as healthy as a more protein and fat based diet.

I see because man ate meat first and then discovered agriculture? so we are more adept at eating meat vs plants?

Let me throw some thoughts at that:

1. Man is the only primate to eat meat. The other may eat insects, small animals, etc. but 95+% of the diet is plant based.
2. Man doesn't make Vitamin C - carnivores do; we were meant to get this from plants.
3. Man makes cholesterol and carnivores don't; we hold on to it - carnivores do not they actually flush out excess.
4. Carnivores swallow their food; Man like other herbivores chew their food.
5. Adventist study comparing similar environment and genetics show vegetarian diets are far healthier.
6. China Study - 750,000 people over 25 years show vegetarian diet is far healthier.
7. Fiber is essential for gut biome. There is 0% of fiber coming from meat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Complex carbs are good. Simple carbs are bad.

All carbs are technically and scientifically "bad", there are no good ones, but some are simply less harmful than others.

All carbs get broken down into glucose in the body though, except fructose tends to get deposited as fat rather than used in most people.

A plant based diet in general is not healthy at all. Sure it is better than a high-carb diet of junk food, but not nearly as healthy as a more protein and fat based diet.

I see because man ate meat first and then discovered agriculture? so we are more adept at eating meat vs plants?

Let me throw some thoughts at that:

1. Man is the only primate to eat meat. So what, humans are a different species.
2. Man doesn't make Vitamin C - carnivores do; we were meant to get this from plants. The need for Vit C is reduced to almost nothing on a no-carb diet. Also you get plenty of vit C from meats, organ meats, eggs, etc.
3. Man makes cholesterol and carnivores don't; we hold on to it - carnivores do not they actually flush out excess. Cholesterol is good and keeps you healthy and creates testosterone. LDL is bad, and caused by overconsumption of carbs.
4. Carnivores swallow their food; Man like other herbivores chew their food. And this is not relevant at all.
5. Adventist study comparing similar environment and genetics show vegetarian diets are far healthier. This is about science, not religious dogma. Try the religious section.
6. China Study - 750,000 people over 25 years show vegetarian diet is far healthier. China is poor and has to feed 2+ billion people a rice based diet or they starve. They are not very healthy at all overall as a population.
7. Fiber is essential for gut biome. There is 0% of fiber coming from meat. Fiber is not necessary for proper bowel movements when eating enough fat. Hence why a high protein low fat diet is deadly.

All of that has been debunked and fact checked in bold.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Complex carbs are good. Simple carbs are bad.

All carbs are technically and scientifically "bad", there are no good ones, but some are simply less harmful than others.

All carbs get broken down into glucose in the body though, except fructose tends to get deposited as fat rather than used in most people.

A plant based diet in general is not healthy at all. Sure it is better than a high-carb diet of junk food, but not nearly as healthy as a more protein and fat based diet.

I see because man ate meat first and then discovered agriculture? so we are more adept at eating meat vs plants?

Let me throw some thoughts at that:

1. Man is the only primate to eat meat. The other may eat insects, small animals, etc. but 95+% of the diet is plant based.
2. Man doesn't make Vitamin C - carnivores do; we were meant to get this from plants.
3. Man makes cholesterol and carnivores don't; we hold on to it - carnivores do not they actually flush out excess.
4. Carnivores swallow their food; Man like other herbivores chew their food.
5. Adventist study comparing similar environment and genetics show vegetarian diets are far healthier.
6. China Study - 750,000 people over 25 years show vegetarian diet is far healthier.
7. Fiber is essential for gut biome. There is 0% of fiber coming from meat.

Hello! I love this!! You are 100% right and this post is brilliant!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Complex carbs are good. Simple carbs are bad.

All carbs are technically and scientifically "bad", there are no good ones, but some are simply less harmful than others.

All carbs get broken down into glucose in the body though, except fructose tends to get deposited as fat rather than used in most people.

A plant based diet in general is not healthy at all. Sure it is better than a high-carb diet of junk food, but not nearly as healthy as a more protein and fat based diet.

I see because man ate meat first and then discovered agriculture? so we are more adept at eating meat vs plants?

Let me throw some thoughts at that:

1. Man is the only primate to eat meat. The other may eat insects, small animals, etc. but 95+% of the diet is plant based.
2. Man doesn't make Vitamin C - carnivores do; we were meant to get this from plants.
3. Man makes cholesterol and carnivores don't; we hold on to it - carnivores do not they actually flush out excess.
4. Carnivores swallow their food; Man like other herbivores chew their food.
5. Adventist study comparing similar environment and genetics show vegetarian diets are far healthier.
6. China Study - 750,000 people over 25 years show vegetarian diet is far healthier.
7. Fiber is essential for gut biome. There is 0% of fiber coming from meat.

Hello! I love this!! You are 100% right and this post is brilliant!!

LMAO that's mean.