The golden age of American Jews is ending

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely willing to convert to whatever religion that will save my life and my kids lives.

Islam? Judaism? Christianity? - everything and anything is fine.

Oh please! Come on. Be loud and proud about being Jewish. Make your presence known.

I am with the Jewish people and Israel. I just happen to be a Hindu.

[Anonymous]

For a long time, extremist Jewish organizations in the United States could hide behind mainstream Judaism to promote pretty horrific stuff in Israel. Any criticism of extremism would be attacked as antisemitism. Much like how the extremists in the Republican Party burned it to the ground, Jewish extremists have reached a tipping point with Israel.

If being against genocide makes me an antisemite, so be it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For a long time, extremist Jewish organizations in the United States could hide behind mainstream Judaism to promote pretty horrific stuff in Israel. Any criticism of extremism would be attacked as antisemitism. Much like how the extremists in the Republican Party burned it to the ground, Jewish extremists have reached a tipping point with Israel.

If being against genocide makes me an antisemite, so be it.

Most American Jews are Democrats, and have always supported progressive causes. It's interesting you are focusing on a minority to justify your antisemitism to yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For a long time, extremist Jewish organizations in the United States could hide behind mainstream Judaism to promote pretty horrific stuff in Israel. Any criticism of extremism would be attacked as antisemitism. Much like how the extremists in the Republican Party burned it to the ground, Jewish extremists have reached a tipping point with Israel.

If being against genocide makes me an antisemite, so be it.

If Israel were attempting to commit genocide, why would they warn Gazans of where they're going to bomb, and advise them to move out of that area?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a long time, extremist Jewish organizations in the United States could hide behind mainstream Judaism to promote pretty horrific stuff in Israel. Any criticism of extremism would be attacked as antisemitism. Much like how the extremists in the Republican Party burned it to the ground, Jewish extremists have reached a tipping point with Israel.

If being against genocide makes me an antisemite, so be it.

Most American Jews are Democrats, and have always supported progressive causes. It's interesting you are focusing on a minority to justify your antisemitism to yourself.

I perceive the PP as saying they oppose Israel's handling of Gaza and treatment of Arabs/Palestinians within Israel. Many American Jews also oppose these actions. PP also opposes extremists orgs who endorse those actions. PP didn't say anything negative about Jews.

I personally don't view that as anti-semitic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a long time, extremist Jewish organizations in the United States could hide behind mainstream Judaism to promote pretty horrific stuff in Israel. Any criticism of extremism would be attacked as antisemitism. Much like how the extremists in the Republican Party burned it to the ground, Jewish extremists have reached a tipping point with Israel.

If being against genocide makes me an antisemite, so be it.

If Israel were attempting to commit genocide, why would they warn Gazans of where they're going to bomb, and advise them to move out of that area?

You must not be very familiar with the history of war.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/04/us-anti-semitism-jewish-american-safety/677469/

Anti-Semitism on the right and the left threatens to bring to a close an unprecedented period of safety and prosperity for Jewish Americans—and demolish the liberal order they helped establish.

Very interesting

I tried to read the article but only got through the introduction. As a person of Middle Eastern descent who was a high schooler during 9-11, the behaviour of the kids in school in the article was wildly familiar… except neither I nor my parents considered it a threat to my safety or an existential threat. Kids are just idiots.

There are elements on the left taking it to the extreme, as always, but taking a stance against Israel does not mean being anti-Semitic. I think due to the atrocities in Gaza people are expressing an opinion they kept to themselves for decades: we are sick of the US sponsoring Israel’s campaign against the Palestinians. That doesn’t mean the Palestinians are the good guys, it means that the US constantly has its hand on the scale in a conflict where there are no good guys. And it doesn’t mean someone who is anti-Israel conflates Israel and the American Jewish community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a long time, extremist Jewish organizations in the United States could hide behind mainstream Judaism to promote pretty horrific stuff in Israel. Any criticism of extremism would be attacked as antisemitism. Much like how the extremists in the Republican Party burned it to the ground, Jewish extremists have reached a tipping point with Israel.

If being against genocide makes me an antisemite, so be it.

If Israel were attempting to commit genocide, why would they warn Gazans of where they're going to bomb, and advise them to move out of that area?

You must not be very familiar with the history of war.

Sorry, a snotty little reply that says absolutely nothing isn't very convincing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a long time, extremist Jewish organizations in the United States could hide behind mainstream Judaism to promote pretty horrific stuff in Israel. Any criticism of extremism would be attacked as antisemitism. Much like how the extremists in the Republican Party burned it to the ground, Jewish extremists have reached a tipping point with Israel.

If being against genocide makes me an antisemite, so be it.

If Israel were attempting to commit genocide, why would they warn Gazans of where they're going to bomb, and advise them to move out of that area?

You must not be very familiar with the history of war.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For a long time, extremist Jewish organizations in the United States could hide behind mainstream Judaism to promote pretty horrific stuff in Israel. Any criticism of extremism would be attacked as antisemitism. Much like how the extremists in the Republican Party burned it to the ground, Jewish extremists have reached a tipping point with Israel.

If being against genocide makes me an antisemite, so be it.

Being against genocide doesn’t make you an antisemite. But immediately steering any discussion of antisemitism into Israeli politics, and using it as a justification, might make you an antisemite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/04/us-anti-semitism-jewish-american-safety/677469/

Anti-Semitism on the right and the left threatens to bring to a close an unprecedented period of safety and prosperity for Jewish Americans—and demolish the liberal order they helped establish.

Very interesting

I tried to read the article but only got through the introduction. As a person of Middle Eastern descent who was a high schooler during 9-11, the behaviour of the kids in school in the article was wildly familiar… except neither I nor my parents considered it a threat to my safety or an existential threat. Kids are just idiots.

There are elements on the left taking it to the extreme, as always, but taking a stance against Israel does not mean being anti-Semitic. I think due to the atrocities in Gaza people are expressing an opinion they kept to themselves for decades: we are sick of the US sponsoring Israel’s campaign against the Palestinians. That doesn’t mean the Palestinians are the good guys, it means that the US constantly has its hand on the scale in a conflict where there are no good guys. And it doesn’t mean someone who is anti-Israel conflates Israel and the American Jewish community.

The bolded is where I am, but people keep telling me it's anti-Semitic. I don't want my tax dollars used to pay for bombs that kill children. Nothing Hamas does changes that. I keep that opinion mostly to myself though because people get very angry when you say that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a long time, extremist Jewish organizations in the United States could hide behind mainstream Judaism to promote pretty horrific stuff in Israel. Any criticism of extremism would be attacked as antisemitism. Much like how the extremists in the Republican Party burned it to the ground, Jewish extremists have reached a tipping point with Israel.

If being against genocide makes me an antisemite, so be it.

If Israel were attempting to commit genocide, why would they warn Gazans of where they're going to bomb, and advise them to move out of that area?

If Nazis attempted to commit genocide, why did they advise Jews to move out of Germany, and create ghettos where Jews could live?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/04/us-anti-semitism-jewish-american-safety/677469/

Anti-Semitism on the right and the left threatens to bring to a close an unprecedented period of safety and prosperity for Jewish Americans—and demolish the liberal order they helped establish.

Very interesting

I tried to read the article but only got through the introduction. As a person of Middle Eastern descent who was a high schooler during 9-11, the behaviour of the kids in school in the article was wildly familiar… except neither I nor my parents considered it a threat to my safety or an existential threat. Kids are just idiots.

There are elements on the left taking it to the extreme, as always, but taking a stance against Israel does not mean being anti-Semitic. I think due to the atrocities in Gaza people are expressing an opinion they kept to themselves for decades: we are sick of the US sponsoring Israel’s campaign against the Palestinians. That doesn’t mean the Palestinians are the good guys, it means that the US constantly has its hand on the scale in a conflict where there are no good guys. And it doesn’t mean someone who is anti-Israel conflates Israel and the American Jewish community.

The bolded is where I am, but people keep telling me it's anti-Semitic. I don't want my tax dollars used to pay for bombs that kill children. Nothing Hamas does changes that. I keep that opinion mostly to myself though because people get very angry when you say that.

Saying "Palestinians" aren't good guys is flat out racist/ethnicist/prejudice by nationality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a long time, extremist Jewish organizations in the United States could hide behind mainstream Judaism to promote pretty horrific stuff in Israel. Any criticism of extremism would be attacked as antisemitism. Much like how the extremists in the Republican Party burned it to the ground, Jewish extremists have reached a tipping point with Israel.

If being against genocide makes me an antisemite, so be it.

Being against genocide doesn’t make you an antisemite. But immediately steering any discussion of antisemitism into Israeli politics, and using it as a justification, might make you an antisemite.

Imperialist Zionists using Jews as political shields is antisemitism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a long time, extremist Jewish organizations in the United States could hide behind mainstream Judaism to promote pretty horrific stuff in Israel. Any criticism of extremism would be attacked as antisemitism. Much like how the extremists in the Republican Party burned it to the ground, Jewish extremists have reached a tipping point with Israel.

If being against genocide makes me an antisemite, so be it.

Being against genocide doesn’t make you an antisemite. But immediately steering any discussion of antisemitism into Israeli politics, and using it as a justification, might make you an antisemite.

But the article OP posted does that, from the start. His argument hinges on the fact that more and more of the American public is expressing views against Israel and therefore antisemitic. I guess the author is an antisemite?