Briefly after January 6th, McCarthy seemed to understand the gravity of the situation and then he went to Mar a Lago to bend the knee and kiss Trump’s ring. If there’s a split, I don’t see any reason why McCarthy won’t smooth it over after the fact again. |
Or maybe Gaetz doesn't follow through with his threat? |
McCarthy hasn’t really done anything yet. Passing a 45-day continuing resolution is the easy part. He just had to put it on the floor and it would pass easily. Similar to the debt ceiling increase. The hard part is passing the full year detailed appropriations bills in the House and then negotiating final compromise bills with the Senate and White House. There is nothing to suggest he is capable of getting his caucus to do any real legislative bargaining. |
If I was McCarthy I'd tell them all to f off and become a democrat.
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Who says the Democrats would have this venal weasel? |
Pffft. Gaetz is all talk. He and the Chaos Caucus have to look tough to keep the donations rolling in. |
#1 self preservation. He’s got to get rid of Gaetz. Win for MTG since she’s on the outs with her bestie, Matt. McCarthy can handle MTG groupie. |
Because McCarthy owes them for pulling his political bacon out of the fire. And McCarthy knows that the only way to retain his speakership is to work with the Democrats. So, he's going to negotiate with them. They'll get the Ukraine bill that they want passed and possibly even the full-year appropriations in exchange for their support of him as speaker. Not only that, but if McCarthy retains his speakership, Gaetz and the Freedom Caucus will have no legitimate power. McCarthy is tired of them and the Democrats hate them. McCarthy's contingent plus the Democrats can ensure that Gaetz is no longer a problem. Gaetz will be lucky to keep his judiciary committee appointment (which takes 2/3 majority of the House to remove him from), but McCarthy has the power and will likely remove Gaetz from every other committee. Gaetz gambled and lost and he doesn't even know it yet. But the CR was the sign that Gaetz pushed too hard, lost the decent package that he had in hand, and pushed McCarthy into putting the CR more favorable to the Democrats on the floor and getting it passed. |
Gaetz has apparently introduced his motion to remove McCarthy:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/...-government-shutdown
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Ukraine aid will get done no matter what. It's too popular. So they don't need him for that. They also benefit politically letting the GOP twist in the wind, until the moderates really feel like they can revolt. |
Well at least this is entertaining. |
Remember. ",The devil you know..." this is why Dems will vote for McCarthy and Nevin lives to fight another day. However, Gaetz is not the only one who hates McCarthy. |
Not true. The Speaker of the House and/or the majority leader can prevent a bill from ever making it to the floor. I guarantee that Steve Scalise will never allow a Ukraine aid bill make it to the floor. So therefore, the only way that a Ukraine bill will ever make it there is if the Speaker allows it. Tell me what other Republican speaker is going to allow that bill to make it to the floor? The Democrats will negotiate with McCarthy and one of the things that he will do is hold up any more aid to Ukraine until the Democrats agree to vote for him to stay Speaker. He has them and they have him, so they will have to walk the path together or not at all. |
Most of the Republicans in the House support Ukraine aid, are none of them leadership material? |