Purdue Returning to Test Required

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MIT, Georgia Tech, Purdue, serious schools are coming back to test required.

unfortunately In the us, serious schools aren’t respected in society

What a silly comment. People are falling all over themselves to get into top schools. How can you say the US does not respect Serious schools? MIT, Stanford, CalTech not serious enough for you?

Stanford is not not the same as these other ones first of all - it has way more in common with wokeness like hyp

Second, it’s true — mit, gt, Purdue are schools that educate people who make society work and tick but not necessarily the social movers and shakers like hyps

It feels like Nescacs, duke, vandy, other southern schools are more sought after and respected

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MIT, Georgia Tech, Purdue, serious schools are coming back to test required.

unfortunately In the us, serious schools aren’t respected in society

What a silly comment. People are falling all over themselves to get into top schools. How can you say the US does not respect Serious schools? MIT, Stanford, CalTech not serious enough for you?

Stanford is not not the same as these other ones first of all - it has way more in common with wokeness like hyp

Second, it’s true — mit, gt, Purdue are schools that educate people who make society work and tick but not necessarily the social movers and shakers like hyps

It feels like Nescacs, duke, vandy, other southern schools are more sought after and respected

Depends. I have a kid who just graduated from TJ— home of the serious student. And for that student body, you would be wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many of the previous posters on this thread are NOT privileged? Let me guess: none.

Please define "privileged?"

Privileged in the sense that you have college degrees yourselves, are middle class or above, send your kids to an average high school or above, and have the ability to pay for SAT prep courses.

If you fall into any or all of these categories, you are privileged when it comes to college admissions whether you are willing to accept that or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MIT, Georgia Tech, Purdue, serious schools are coming back to test required.

+1 as it should be

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How many of the previous posters on this thread are NOT privileged? Let me guess: none.

First gen college here, as an aside.

But I have a serious question for the lawyers on the board, why can’t admissions officers do what the Georgetown Dean claims: adjust score thresholds for zip codes/profiles? (He is quoted in the latest Selingo article as saying a 1200 from an underprivileged zip code should be viewed differ than a 1200 from a kid with lots of resources). Aren’t there studies out there on upward mobility that could prove certain profiles, including test scores below the the college range but above the range for a kid’s particular high school, often have a high rate of success in college, and are therefore worth admitting? Seems like you wouldn’t have to get into questions about race but rather opportunity.

Couldn't you also ask kids on an application if they enrolled in a prep class? Georgetown already asks to see all scores.

It seems to me more info is good rather than bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many of the previous posters on this thread are NOT privileged? Let me guess: none.

First gen college here, as an aside.

But I have a serious question for the lawyers on the board, why can’t admissions officers do what the Georgetown Dean claims: adjust score thresholds for zip codes/profiles? (He is quoted in the latest Selingo article as saying a 1200 from an underprivileged zip code should be viewed differ than a 1200 from a kid with lots of resources). Aren’t there studies out there on upward mobility that could prove certain profiles, including test scores below the the college range but above the range for a kid’s particular high school, often have a high rate of success in college, and are therefore worth admitting? Seems like you wouldn’t have to get into questions about race but rather opportunity.

Couldn't you also ask kids on an application if they enrolled in a prep class? Georgetown already asks to see all scores.

It seems to me more info is good rather than bad.

Who is first generation college - you or your kid? Are you saying that YOU have no formal education beyond high school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many of the previous posters on this thread are NOT privileged? Let me guess: none.

First gen college here, as an aside.

But I have a serious question for the lawyers on the board, why can’t admissions officers do what the Georgetown Dean claims: adjust score thresholds for zip codes/profiles? (He is quoted in the latest Selingo article as saying a 1200 from an underprivileged zip code should be viewed differ than a 1200 from a kid with lots of resources). Aren’t there studies out there on upward mobility that could prove certain profiles, including test scores below the the college range but above the range for a kid’s particular high school, often have a high rate of success in college, and are therefore worth admitting? Seems like you wouldn’t have to get into questions about race but rather opportunity.

Couldn't you also ask kids on an application if they enrolled in a prep class? Georgetown already asks to see all scores.

It seems to me more info is good rather than bad.

Interesting idea. I like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many of the previous posters on this thread are NOT privileged? Let me guess: none.

First gen college here, as an aside.

But I have a serious question for the lawyers on the board, why can’t admissions officers do what the Georgetown Dean claims: adjust score thresholds for zip codes/profiles? (He is quoted in the latest Selingo article as saying a 1200 from an underprivileged zip code should be viewed differ than a 1200 from a kid with lots of resources). Aren’t there studies out there on upward mobility that could prove certain profiles, including test scores below the the college range but above the range for a kid’s particular high school, often have a high rate of success in college, and are therefore worth admitting? Seems like you wouldn’t have to get into questions about race but rather opportunity.

Couldn't you also ask kids on an application if they enrolled in a prep class? Georgetown already asks to see all scores.

It seems to me more info is good rather than bad.

Interesting idea. I like that.

Should you also ask if you hired tutors and if so when and how long.
Also ask if you hired college admission consultant?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many of the previous posters on this thread are NOT privileged? Let me guess: none.

First gen college here, as an aside.

But I have a serious question for the lawyers on the board, why can’t admissions officers do what the Georgetown Dean claims: adjust score thresholds for zip codes/profiles? (He is quoted in the latest Selingo article as saying a 1200 from an underprivileged zip code should be viewed differ than a 1200 from a kid with lots of resources). Aren’t there studies out there on upward mobility that could prove certain profiles, including test scores below the the college range but above the range for a kid’s particular high school, often have a high rate of success in college, and are therefore worth admitting? Seems like you wouldn’t have to get into questions about race but rather opportunity.

Couldn't you also ask kids on an application if they enrolled in a prep class? Georgetown already asks to see all scores.

It seems to me more info is good rather than bad.

Interesting idea. I like that.

Should you also ask if you hired tutors and if so when and how long.
Also ask if you hired college admission consultant?

Also ask who reviewed you essays?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many of the previous posters on this thread are NOT privileged? Let me guess: none.

First gen college here, as an aside.

But I have a serious question for the lawyers on the board, why can’t admissions officers do what the Georgetown Dean claims: adjust score thresholds for zip codes/profiles? (He is quoted in the latest Selingo article as saying a 1200 from an underprivileged zip code should be viewed differ than a 1200 from a kid with lots of resources). Aren’t there studies out there on upward mobility that could prove certain profiles, including test scores below the the college range but above the range for a kid’s particular high school, often have a high rate of success in college, and are therefore worth admitting? Seems like you wouldn’t have to get into questions about race but rather opportunity.

Couldn't you also ask kids on an application if they enrolled in a prep class? Georgetown already asks to see all scores.

It seems to me more info is good rather than bad.

Interesting idea. I like that.

Should you also ask if you hired tutors and if so when and how long.
Also ask if you hired college admission consultant?

Also ask who reviewed you essays?

Sure, why not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many of the previous posters on this thread are NOT privileged? Let me guess: none.

First gen college here, as an aside.

But I have a serious question for the lawyers on the board, why can’t admissions officers do what the Georgetown Dean claims: adjust score thresholds for zip codes/profiles? (He is quoted in the latest Selingo article as saying a 1200 from an underprivileged zip code should be viewed differ than a 1200 from a kid with lots of resources). Aren’t there studies out there on upward mobility that could prove certain profiles, including test scores below the the college range but above the range for a kid’s particular high school, often have a high rate of success in college, and are therefore worth admitting? Seems like you wouldn’t have to get into questions about race but rather opportunity.

Couldn't you also ask kids on an application if they enrolled in a prep class? Georgetown already asks to see all scores.

It seems to me more info is good rather than bad.

Interesting idea. I like that.

Should you also ask if you hired tutors and if so when and how long.
Also ask if you hired college admission consultant?

Also ask who reviewed you essays?

Sure, why not?

Because people lie and the answers can't be verified.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many of the previous posters on this thread are NOT privileged? Let me guess: none.

First gen college here, as an aside.

But I have a serious question for the lawyers on the board, why can’t admissions officers do what the Georgetown Dean claims: adjust score thresholds for zip codes/profiles? (He is quoted in the latest Selingo article as saying a 1200 from an underprivileged zip code should be viewed differ than a 1200 from a kid with lots of resources). Aren’t there studies out there on upward mobility that could prove certain profiles, including test scores below the the college range but above the range for a kid’s particular high school, often have a high rate of success in college, and are therefore worth admitting? Seems like you wouldn’t have to get into questions about race but rather opportunity.

Couldn't you also ask kids on an application if they enrolled in a prep class? Georgetown already asks to see all scores.

It seems to me more info is good rather than bad.

How does this help in urban areas?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many of the previous posters on this thread are NOT privileged? Let me guess: none.

First gen college here, as an aside.

But I have a serious question for the lawyers on the board, why can’t admissions officers do what the Georgetown Dean claims: adjust score thresholds for zip codes/profiles? (He is quoted in the latest Selingo article as saying a 1200 from an underprivileged zip code should be viewed differ than a 1200 from a kid with lots of resources). Aren’t there studies out there on upward mobility that could prove certain profiles, including test scores below the the college range but above the range for a kid’s particular high school, often have a high rate of success in college, and are therefore worth admitting? Seems like you wouldn’t have to get into questions about race but rather opportunity.

Couldn't you also ask kids on an application if they enrolled in a prep class? Georgetown already asks to see all scores.

It seems to me more info is good rather than bad.

That's a good idea!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many of the previous posters on this thread are NOT privileged? Let me guess: none.

First gen college here, as an aside.

But I have a serious question for the lawyers on the board, why can’t admissions officers do what the Georgetown Dean claims: adjust score thresholds for zip codes/profiles? (He is quoted in the latest Selingo article as saying a 1200 from an underprivileged zip code should be viewed differ than a 1200 from a kid with lots of resources). Aren’t there studies out there on upward mobility that could prove certain profiles, including test scores below the the college range but above the range for a kid’s particular high school, often have a high rate of success in college, and are therefore worth admitting? Seems like you wouldn’t have to get into questions about race but rather opportunity.

Couldn't you also ask kids on an application if they enrolled in a prep class? Georgetown already asks to see all scores.

It seems to me more info is good rather than bad.

How does this help in urban areas?

If you're from the Upper East Side, went to Spence, and have a 1200, that's below average. If you're from East Harlem. went to public school, and have a 1200, that's very good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many of the previous posters on this thread are NOT privileged? Let me guess: none.

First gen college here, as an aside.

But I have a serious question for the lawyers on the board, why can’t admissions officers do what the Georgetown Dean claims: adjust score thresholds for zip codes/profiles? (He is quoted in the latest Selingo article as saying a 1200 from an underprivileged zip code should be viewed differ than a 1200 from a kid with lots of resources). Aren’t there studies out there on upward mobility that could prove certain profiles, including test scores below the the college range but above the range for a kid’s particular high school, often have a high rate of success in college, and are therefore worth admitting? Seems like you wouldn’t have to get into questions about race but rather opportunity.

Couldn't you also ask kids on an application if they enrolled in a prep class? Georgetown already asks to see all scores.

It seems to me more info is good rather than bad.

Interesting idea. I like that.

Should you also ask if you hired tutors and if so when and how long.
Also ask if you hired college admission consultant?

Also ask who reviewed you essays?

Sure, why not?

Because people lie and the answers can't be verified.

That's the case with everything.

The admissions board will have to rely on people's honestly, and the willingness of others to snitch.