Is Rosedale Conservancy run by NIMBYs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not a public space or dog park. In general, I don’t see an issue limiting the number of dogs who are permitted to use the grounds of a private facility.

That's right, it's not illegal. It's about the type of community they're trying to welcome and whether OP wants to support it. Like...whether to join certain types of country clubs with checkered histories.

Oh, so a group of private citizens paying for the maintenance and upkeep of a large green space in the city that is open to the public is a bad idea? Are you accusing the neighbors of being bigots? Pls, speak plainly.

The correct outcome was apparently that it should have been purchased by an elite private school that charges US household median income in tuition, the green space bulldozed and the site fenced off so that no one could use it ever. But those terrible racist NIMBYs instead bought it and allowed it be used by the community for free, with some limitations on dogs. What horrible, horrible people they are!

[Anonymous]

I call troll. OP is trying to stir up animosity towards an ANC candidate that serves on the Rosedale board. No one who is on the waiting list for a dog spot there is this ignorant. There are one or two people in all of these Cleveland Park-adjacent threads that are trying to divide the neighborhood and now are throwing around the NIMBY acronym. It’s sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I call troll. OP is trying to stir up animosity towards an ANC candidate that serves on the Rosedale board. No one who is on the waiting list for a dog spot there is this ignorant. There are one or two people in all of these Cleveland Park-adjacent threads that are trying to divide the neighborhood and now are throwing around the NIMBY acronym. It’s sad.

If this is true, this a really sad person to try to anonymously impugn people online over something as meaningless as an ANC election. It is honestly really sad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We recently moved to the CP area and became dues-paying members of Rosedale. However, they said that it's pretty much hopeless for us to get off of the dog waiting list (even though there's no one using the park at all during the day). And after watching the ANC forum last night, I'm aware that a NIMBY ANC candidate is a director of the Conservancy.

Is Rosedale run by NIMBYs? Or otherwise just an exclusive org for elite hobnobbing? We were excited to use the Park and get involved but haven't found it welcoming.

The fact that Rosedale exists at all is because your neighbors that you derogatorily call NIMBYs all pitched in to purchase the property when it went up for sale instead of allowing it to be developed. It is private property and you are lucky that they let you use it at all, so stop your whining.

Uh, some of us would have been fine if it had become a school. The same front yard dog access would have remained. Instead, those neighbors bought lots and developed them themselves and have made bank on their investments and self dealing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I call troll. OP is trying to stir up animosity towards an ANC candidate that serves on the Rosedale board. No one who is on the waiting list for a dog spot there is this ignorant. There are one or two people in all of these Cleveland Park-adjacent threads that are trying to divide the neighborhood and now are throwing around the NIMBY acronym. It’s sad.

If this is true, this a really sad person to try to anonymously impugn people online over something as meaningless as an ANC election. It is honestly really sad.

Yes, the poster has been busy in at least three or four threads talking about the candidate running against “Keith.” Who is Keith? Keith, call off you goon.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it is the old guard of Cleveland Park who created the HOA there to keep out a school.

Was the HOA related to the Rosedale purchase, or was that a separate issue? Because if Rosedale was originally purchased to keep out a public school, then it's not looking attractive anymore.

A jewish sschool, to be clear, not a public school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it is the old guard of Cleveland Park who created the HOA there to keep out a school.

Was the HOA related to the Rosedale purchase, or was that a separate issue? Because if Rosedale was originally purchased to keep out a public school, then it's not looking attractive anymore.

A jewish sschool, to be clear, not a public school.

Oh no, a Jewish school. Can't let that move in!

[Anonymous]

A search of the WaPo archives yields this:

"Then, residents of the Northwest neighborhood of Cleveland Park joined forces with a local developer and builder to match the school's $12 million bid to purchase Rosedale, a historic 6.2-acre estate in the 3500 block of Newark Street NW.

The owner of Rosedale, the nonprofit Youth for Understanding, was bound under a covenant to accept the neighbors' matching bid. The bid was approved by a federal bankruptcy judge Sept. 5.

Andrew Hamilton, who heads the group of neighbors called Friends of Rosedale, said that after the sale -- set to take place Sept. 26 -- developer Sam Nunn and builder Jim Gibson are planning to erect eight luxury homes on half the site. The remaining three acres will be purchased by the Conservation Fund, a national organization, and kept as green area, Hamilton added."

So basically, the Cleveland Park "neighbors" organized specifically to keep out the Jewish school (which likely would have had a smaller footprint) and instead struck a deal with a developer to buy the land and build luxury homes, in return for a much smaller public access park.

Not exactly NIMBY, but not exactly a good look for Cleveland Park "neighbors" either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A search of the WaPo archives yields this:

"Then, residents of the Northwest neighborhood of Cleveland Park joined forces with a local developer and builder to match the school's $12 million bid to purchase Rosedale, a historic 6.2-acre estate in the 3500 block of Newark Street NW.

The owner of Rosedale, the nonprofit Youth for Understanding, was bound under a covenant to accept the neighbors' matching bid. The bid was approved by a federal bankruptcy judge Sept. 5.

Andrew Hamilton, who heads the group of neighbors called Friends of Rosedale, said that after the sale -- set to take place Sept. 26 -- developer Sam Nunn and builder Jim Gibson are planning to erect eight luxury homes on half the site. The remaining three acres will be purchased by the Conservation Fund, a national organization, and kept as green area, Hamilton added."

So basically, the Cleveland Park "neighbors" organized specifically to keep out the Jewish school (which likely would have had a smaller footprint) and instead struck a deal with a developer to buy the land and build luxury homes, in return for a much smaller public access park.

Not exactly NIMBY, but not exactly a good look for Cleveland Park "neighbors" either.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2002/09/21/owl-school-sells-dc-building/f5e1b358-21b6-4d3d-a4ed-4501fba3a881/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A search of the WaPo archives yields this:

"Then, residents of the Northwest neighborhood of Cleveland Park joined forces with a local developer and builder to match the school's $12 million bid to purchase Rosedale, a historic 6.2-acre estate in the 3500 block of Newark Street NW.

The owner of Rosedale, the nonprofit Youth for Understanding, was bound under a covenant to accept the neighbors' matching bid. The bid was approved by a federal bankruptcy judge Sept. 5.

Andrew Hamilton, who heads the group of neighbors called Friends of Rosedale, said that after the sale -- set to take place Sept. 26 -- developer Sam Nunn and builder Jim Gibson are planning to erect eight luxury homes on half the site. The remaining three acres will be purchased by the Conservation Fund, a national organization, and kept as green area, Hamilton added."

So basically, the Cleveland Park "neighbors" organized specifically to keep out the Jewish school (which likely would have had a smaller footprint) and instead struck a deal with a developer to buy the land and build luxury homes, in return for a much smaller public access park.

Not exactly NIMBY, but not exactly a good look for Cleveland Park "neighbors" either.

Yep. It was a really ugly look and the fact that a number of people who fought the school, bought lots and moved in, was sickening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A search of the WaPo archives yields this:

"Then, residents of the Northwest neighborhood of Cleveland Park joined forces with a local developer and builder to match the school's $12 million bid to purchase Rosedale, a historic 6.2-acre estate in the 3500 block of Newark Street NW.

The owner of Rosedale, the nonprofit Youth for Understanding, was bound under a covenant to accept the neighbors' matching bid. The bid was approved by a federal bankruptcy judge Sept. 5.

Andrew Hamilton, who heads the group of neighbors called Friends of Rosedale, said that after the sale -- set to take place Sept. 26 -- developer Sam Nunn and builder Jim Gibson are planning to erect eight luxury homes on half the site. The remaining three acres will be purchased by the Conservation Fund, a national organization, and kept as green area, Hamilton added."

So basically, the Cleveland Park "neighbors" organized specifically to keep out the Jewish school (which likely would have had a smaller footprint) and instead struck a deal with a developer to buy the land and build luxury homes, in return for a much smaller public access park.

Not exactly NIMBY, but not exactly a good look for Cleveland Park "neighbors" either.

Yep. It was a really ugly look and the fact that a number of people who fought the school, bought lots and moved in, was sickening.

I am so glad that you are not my neighbor because you’re f&cking gross.

The site had been open to the community for decades and there was no assurance that access would continue after a sale. The location where the houses were built had dormitories that were demolished.

To make a charge that anyone was specifically motivated by anti-semitism is libelous and disturbing.

[Anonymous]

The antisemitic comments at the time were sickening. Maybe you weren't there, or maybe you are tone deaf to them. Neither I, nor many of may neighbors thought it was acceptable.

And, the school said they would allow people to continue to run their dogs on the front lawn.

Facts matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The antisemitic comments at the time were sickening. Maybe you weren't there, or maybe you are tone deaf to them. Neither I, nor many of may neighbors thought it was acceptable.

And, the school said they would allow people to continue to run their dogs on the front lawn.

Facts matter.

There were none. You’re a liar and sick person. A significant portion of the CP community and several people involved were Jewish. Stop lying. There’s someone seriously wrong with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it is the old guard of Cleveland Park who created the HOA there to keep out a school.

Was the HOA related to the Rosedale purchase, or was that a separate issue? Because if Rosedale was originally purchased to keep out a public school, then it's not looking attractive anymore.

A jewish sschool, to be clear, not a public school.

Really? Which one? I thought it was the Episcopal school already occupying dorm space there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The antisemitic comments at the time were sickening. Maybe you weren't there, or maybe you are tone deaf to them. Neither I, nor many of may neighbors thought it was acceptable.

And, the school said they would allow people to continue to run their dogs on the front lawn.

Facts matter.

There were none. You’re a liar and sick person. A significant portion of the CP community and several people involved were Jewish. Stop lying. There’s someone seriously wrong with you.

I am Jewish. I witnessed and heard it with my own ears. And yes, many of my neighbohood heard it too, it was really disheartening.