Trump vs. DeSantis: who would do the most damage?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think DeSantis would kill anyone and I think he's smart enough to make sure his continued power is not even in doubt.

Trump is a clown who lost his race, lost the House, lost the Senate. DeSantis will cement power just like Hungary's Orban.

I don’t want to just wring my hands over it though. I don’t want to live in a white Christian nationalist country. It’s very frustrating that so many Republicans are so tolerant of these authoritarian types. I can’t understand why they don’t want better lives for themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think DeSantis would kill anyone and I think he's smart enough to make sure his continued power is not even in doubt.

Trump is a clown who lost his race, lost the House, lost the Senate. DeSantis will cement power just like Hungary's Orban.

I don’t want to just wring my hands over it though. I don’t want to live in a white Christian nationalist country. It’s very frustrating that so many Republicans are so tolerant of these authoritarian types. I can’t understand why they don’t want better lives for themselves.

Authoritarian?
You are confused.... You are thinking of Biden, et al. THEY are the ones who pushed (and continue to push) mandates despite the fact that he said he wouldn't.
("No — I don't think it should be mandatory. I wouldn't demand it to be mandatory," Biden said of the coronavirus vaccine.)

This is a governor who refused to implement mandates associated with Covid. He allowed his state's residents to determine what is best for them.
This is NOT authoritarian. At all.

[Anonymous]

Biden didn't make vaccines mandatory. People could opt out and opt in to frequent testing.

DeSantis hid covid information more than once. Hiding info is what authoritarians do.

He tried to not allow cruise companies to have vaccine mandates. Controlling businesses is what authoritarians do.

Teachers aren't allowed to say 'gay'. I think you get my point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think DeSantis would kill anyone and I think he's smart enough to make sure his continued power is not even in doubt.

Trump is a clown who lost his race, lost the House, lost the Senate. DeSantis will cement power just like Hungary's Orban.

I don’t want to just wring my hands over it though. I don’t want to live in a white Christian nationalist country. It’s very frustrating that so many Republicans are so tolerant of these authoritarian types. I can’t understand why they don’t want better lives for themselves.

This. None of it is normal. The fact that we have to worry about either of these psychopaths becoming President is just insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's assume the R wins the next election: who would be more catastrophic? Trump or DeSantis? I think DeSantis would be worse for the country, as his efforts to dismantle democracy would be more organized and less shambolic than what we witnessed in the Trump administration.

However, I am persuadable. I can imagine Trump's people having learned from experience and becoming more vicious.

Jonathan Swan is convinced your last sentence is correct

https://www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-2025-radical-plan-second-term

It's not just Trump people having learned from that experience though. Read this article yesterday and it's pretty clear that any right wing authoritarian figure, when/if elected president, now has the infrastructure and blueprint for dismantling the federal government and installing sychophants across several layers of the executive branch.

To answer OP's question: Both Trump and DeSantis fit the profile (authoritarian/extreme RW) and vicious, though a DeSantis regime will be more organized, more competent and less chaotic on a day-to-day basis than a Trump one.

[Anonymous]

Not talking about Rebekah Jones...

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Alawsuit has been filed in Florida by a Democratic lawmaker and a non-profit group that is accusing the state's Department of Health (FDOH) of violating public-records laws by refusing to offer daily data reports on the COVID pandemic.

Democratic state Representative Carlos Guillermo Smith and the Florida Center for Government Accountability filed the lawsuit in Leon County Circuit Court on Monday, claiming that the health department told them that the data is no longer a public record.

Florida reported daily COVID figures in the state, including cases and deaths and breakdowns by county until June 4, but since then it has only published the data on a weekly basis with less detailed information available.

https://www.newsweek.com/florida-covid-19-data-lawsuit-carlos-guillermo-smith-deaths-cases-delta-variant-1624859

[Anonymous]

Desantis is smarter and competent but at least outwardly he'd obey the law. I think.

[Anonymous]

Desantis is what this Country needs right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Desantis is what this Country needs right now.

This country needs more opportunistic politicians who use culture wars for personal gain?

No thanks.

[Anonymous]

If Trump wins, he’d die in office most likely. Something to think about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Desantis is what this Country needs right now.

Oh? He talks about freedom and choice and then berates kids for wearing masks. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/florida-governor-admonishes-students-wearing-face-masks-83212180

[Anonymous]

Here's a Trump AND DeSantis event. I guess Russia should invade Florida now...

[Anonymous]

They are both awful. I think one thing in DeathSantis’ favor is that he may at least attract competent people. At this point, no Republican with half a brain and any self respect would work in a second Trump term. It would be Rudy, My Pillow and Kraken lady running things and that is terrifying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DeSantis probably wouldn't send a mob to kill his VP.

Something about his crazy eyes and the way the GOP isn’t pretending to be normal anymore suggests he’d just do it himself.

DeSantis would be worse, but Trump did so much damage in his four years. I stick to my belief that the reason that Biden/Harris isn’t as visible as other previous president/VP duos is because they’re quietly repairing the damage Trump did. I’m not in a position to know specifically, but Trump set bombs, booby traps and generally sht the bed everywhere, as did his incompetent and/or malicious staff.

Yes, that’s it! You are so clever!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Desantis is what this Country needs right now.

Oh? He talks about freedom and choice and then berates kids for wearing masks. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/florida-governor-admonishes-students-wearing-face-masks-83212180

DP. He wasn’t berating them, you twit. He was expressing exasperation with the ridiculous mask rules at the time. But you know that.