FCPS Skyview Boundary Scenario 1/2/3

[Anonymous]

So the trick is to go to a meeting with Reid there, get in front of her, and get her to promise not to move your neighborhood? That's three areas she or random SB members have promised not to mess with outside the official process. What a disaster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the trick is to go to a meeting with Reid there, get in front of her, and get her to promise not to move your neighborhood? That's three areas she or random SB members have promised not to mess with outside the official process. What a disaster.

The "official process" will be the School Board, the rest is just noise.

[Anonymous]

I thought the plan was that Reid selected a "winning" plan and then put it in front of the SB for a yes/no?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These two areas I think everyone agrees it makes sense to move from Chantilly to Westfield: Walney Oaks (and its BS that they got themselves moved from Franklin, GMAFB) and the small section of Cub Run across Route 28.

No other neighborhood makes obvious sense to move. If you can't admit there are reasons why it makes sense to move Lees Corner or Poplar Tree to Westfield, then you are just being intellectually dishonest.

I think the Centreville people will get moved because they aren't as politically savvy as the Chantilly people but I personally don't think its OK to be busing low income kids to a farther away, less desirable school to make the closer-by wealthy people happy. That's kind of a gross outcome.

And i think its also pretty obvious that its the Rooted in Oakton people who came up with and pushed the map with Lees Corner moved. Its so suspicious that they had that map months before the consultants produced it. Its not Bull Run people on here arguing with Chantilly--that's a lot of ESL families, that's not the DCUM demographic--its "those" Crossfield people.

Why would moving Lees Corner to Westfield benefit Rooted in Oakton? I don’t have access to that old map anymore “scenario e”, but I thought it pushed Lees Corner to Skyview not Westfield which if that had been one of the new boundary maps presented last meeting I would agree with you.

Yes, the old map, E, pushed Lees Corner to Skyview. The new ones push it to Westfield which does not benefit the RIO families at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the second consultants were told, "Chantilly HS is overcrowded, Westfield needs students"--the most obvious solution to that problem is to find the closest "Chantilly" zoned ES to Westfield and move that area over. You don't need a conspiracy theory to see how they arrived at that proposed map.

Agree but also they're not from this area so they don't know that the number of mile away from something is very different from the number of minutes away from something, nor do they know that there are no residential neighborhoods between Lees Corner and Westfield neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the second consultants were told, "Chantilly HS is overcrowded, Westfield needs students"--the most obvious solution to that problem is to find the closest "Chantilly" zoned ES to Westfield and move that area over. You don't need a conspiracy theory to see how they arrived at that proposed map.

Agree but also they're not from this area so they don't know that the number of mile away from something is very different from the number of minutes away from something, nor do they know that there are no residential neighborhoods between Lees Corner and Westfield neighborhoods.

Lees Corner, Poplar Tree, Brookfield, etc are all closer in miles AND minutes then the Centreville areas. Someone did a whole post on it. There's no arguing with facts on google maps. I still think they will get moved, but for political reasons, not logical ones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the second consultants were told, "Chantilly HS is overcrowded, Westfield needs students"--the most obvious solution to that problem is to find the closest "Chantilly" zoned ES to Westfield and move that area over. You don't need a conspiracy theory to see how they arrived at that proposed map.

Agree but also they're not from this area so they don't know that the number of mile away from something is very different from the number of minutes away from something, nor do they know that there are no residential neighborhoods between Lees Corner and Westfield neighborhoods.

Again, this isn't really a relevant fact. Many, many, many FCPS HS zones have commercial areas separating neighborhoods. Someone posted a whole list. Are you the person who thinks high schoolers should be able to walk from neighborhood to neighborhood? That was a very odd opinion.

And, in this case, is inaccurate. There are currently residential areas zoned to Westfield along Lees Corner's boundary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the second consultants were told, "Chantilly HS is overcrowded, Westfield needs students"--the most obvious solution to that problem is to find the closest "Chantilly" zoned ES to Westfield and move that area over. You don't need a conspiracy theory to see how they arrived at that proposed map.

Agree but also they're not from this area so they don't know that the number of mile away from something is very different from the number of minutes away from something, nor do they know that there are no residential neighborhoods between Lees Corner and Westfield neighborhoods.

Lees Corner, Poplar Tree, Brookfield, etc are all closer in miles AND minutes then the Centreville areas. Someone did a whole post on it. There's no arguing with facts on google maps. I still think they will get moved, but for political reasons, not logical ones.

No. Those neighborhoods are VERY close to Chantilly. Some of the neighborhoods are walking distance and the kids do walk. The neighborhoods proposed to be moved from Centreville are not VERY close or walking distance to Centreville. And, Centreville is over capacity. With the loss of Oak Hill to Skyview, Chantilly should be okay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the second consultants were told, "Chantilly HS is overcrowded, Westfield needs students"--the most obvious solution to that problem is to find the closest "Chantilly" zoned ES to Westfield and move that area over. You don't need a conspiracy theory to see how they arrived at that proposed map.

Agree but also they're not from this area so they don't know that the number of mile away from something is very different from the number of minutes away from something, nor do they know that there are no residential neighborhoods between Lees Corner and Westfield neighborhoods.

You don't think the 25 year old consultants know how to use google maps "estimated travel time" feature?

Their opinion --that it made complete and utter sense to move Lees Corner--differed from yours. That's ok. You aren't entitled to your own facts, though. The fact is that some of the Chantilly areas up for grabs to be moved are closer in miles AND minutes than some of the Centreville areas up for grabs.

In fact it seems like both coming to and from school, Chantilly kids would be going in the opposite direction of commuter traffic, whereas the Centreville kids would be going longer distances in miles and WITH commuter traffic on Route 28 both ways, so that would really suck for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the second consultants were told, "Chantilly HS is overcrowded, Westfield needs students"--the most obvious solution to that problem is to find the closest "Chantilly" zoned ES to Westfield and move that area over. You don't need a conspiracy theory to see how they arrived at that proposed map.

Agree but also they're not from this area so they don't know that the number of mile away from something is very different from the number of minutes away from something, nor do they know that there are no residential neighborhoods between Lees Corner and Westfield neighborhoods.

Lees Corner, Poplar Tree, Brookfield, etc are all closer in miles AND minutes then the Centreville areas. Someone did a whole post on it. There's no arguing with facts on google maps. I still think they will get moved, but for political reasons, not logical ones.

No. Those neighborhoods are VERY close to Chantilly. Some of the neighborhoods are walking distance and the kids do walk. The neighborhoods proposed to be moved from Centreville are not VERY close or walking distance to Centreville. And, Centreville is over capacity. With the loss of Oak Hill to Skyview, Chantilly should be okay.

If you think everyone should be zoned to attend the school that is physically closest to their house, then no one gets moved and Westfield is a ghost town.
Is that your position?
Or just your neighborhood is a special case, that should be treated differently?
Your area is close to Chantilly AND one of the closest areas to Westfield. Which fact gets greater weight with FCPS? Who knows!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the second consultants were told, "Chantilly HS is overcrowded, Westfield needs students"--the most obvious solution to that problem is to find the closest "Chantilly" zoned ES to Westfield and move that area over. You don't need a conspiracy theory to see how they arrived at that proposed map.

Agree but also they're not from this area so they don't know that the number of mile away from something is very different from the number of minutes away from something, nor do they know that there are no residential neighborhoods between Lees Corner and Westfield neighborhoods.

Lees Corner, Poplar Tree, Brookfield, etc are all closer in miles AND minutes then the Centreville areas. Someone did a whole post on it. There's no arguing with facts on google maps. I still think they will get moved, but for political reasons, not logical ones.

No. Those neighborhoods are VERY close to Chantilly. Some of the neighborhoods are walking distance and the kids do walk. The neighborhoods proposed to be moved from Centreville are not VERY close or walking distance to Centreville. And, Centreville is over capacity. With the loss of Oak Hill to Skyview, Chantilly should be okay.

If you think everyone should be zoned to attend the school that is physically closest to their house, then no one gets moved and Westfield is a ghost town.
Is that your position?
Or just your neighborhood is a special case, that should be treated differently?
Your area is close to Chantilly AND one of the closest areas to Westfield. Which fact gets greater weight with FCPS? Who knows!

Lee's Corner has kids that are walking distance to Chantilly and kids that are six miles from Westfield. You really think that makes sense?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the second consultants were told, "Chantilly HS is overcrowded, Westfield needs students"--the most obvious solution to that problem is to find the closest "Chantilly" zoned ES to Westfield and move that area over. You don't need a conspiracy theory to see how they arrived at that proposed map.

Agree but also they're not from this area so they don't know that the number of mile away from something is very different from the number of minutes away from something, nor do they know that there are no residential neighborhoods between Lees Corner and Westfield neighborhoods.

Lees Corner, Poplar Tree, Brookfield, etc are all closer in miles AND minutes then the Centreville areas. Someone did a whole post on it. There's no arguing with facts on google maps. I still think they will get moved, but for political reasons, not logical ones.

No. Those neighborhoods are VERY close to Chantilly. Some of the neighborhoods are walking distance and the kids do walk. The neighborhoods proposed to be moved from Centreville are not VERY close or walking distance to Centreville. And, Centreville is over capacity. With the loss of Oak Hill to Skyview, Chantilly should be okay.

If you think everyone should be zoned to attend the school that is physically closest to their house, then no one gets moved and Westfield is a ghost town.
Is that your position?
Or just your neighborhood is a special case, that should be treated differently?
Your area is close to Chantilly AND one of the closest areas to Westfield. Which fact gets greater weight with FCPS? Who knows!

Lee's Corner has kids that are walking distance to Chantilly and kids that are six miles from Westfield. You really think that makes sense?

It makes sense, depending on what FCPS is prioritizing. Someone has to be moved.

[Anonymous]

what is RIO

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:what is RIO

A group called "Rooted in Oakton." Google it. They have a website and a petition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what is RIO

A group called "Rooted in Oakton." Google it. They have a website and a petition.

and people think they are annoying and shady.