FCPS Skyview Boundary Scenario 1/2/3

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:All, please discuss the Skyview HS boundary based on the new scenario 1/2/3 instead of the previous A/B/C/D

https://fcpswesternboundary.org/

https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/maps/boundary-adjustments-information/skyview-high-school-and-western-pyramids-boundary

Scenario 1, Balance Utilization and Feeder Patterns
Address feeder coherence and overutilization. Targeted near-term disruptions, some vulnerability to future residential growth.

Scenario 2, Improve Utilization & Minimize Disruption
Moves the fewest students of any scenario. Achieves the best current utilization balance, though does not account for future development pressure. Introduces new split feeders to limit reassignments.

Scenario 3, Maximize Feeder Alignment/Utilization Balance
Greater near-term changes in exchange for thorough boundary alignment. Reduces future overcrowding due to development pressure.


They said they’re not creating completely new maps, just revising the current ones.

Are they keeping the same goals for each scenario but running them under different conditions like no boundary changes for ES and using commute time instead of distance?

Also, is not moving Lees Corner to Westfield a new condition? It seems kinda unfair to me.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

Are they keeping the same goals for each scenario but running them under different conditions like no boundary changes for ES and using commute time instead of distance?



No, I don't think that's the idea. The next round of maps at end of May was already planned. Reid has said she wants to add an additional round of maps and feedback, with final vote on July 16. The goals are more broadly to incorporate the feedback they've received rather than to re-run the same scenarios.

But yes, it sounds like no boundary changes for ES.
Anonymous
It's weird that they think it will take this long to get an acceptable boundary map I guess it's an acknowledgment of their own incompetence to say they need this many rounds of review and refinement. It really wasn't always this drawn out and laborious, but there used to be competent FCPS employees who understood the county better.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In connection with the Skyview boundary review, the new consultants retained by FCPS analyzed the average distance in miles to school for students in the 24 high school pyramids, presumably for the current school year:

Langley 7.3
Oakton 5.7
Westfield 5.3
Fairfax 4.5
Hayfield 3.2
Lake Braddock 3.2
Robinson 3.2
Woodson 3.1
Edison 3.0
Mount Vernon 3.0
South Lakes 3.0
West Potomac 3.0
Marshall 2.9
McLean 2.7
West Springfield 2.6
Herndon 2.5
South County 2.5
Annandale 2.4
Centreville 2.4
Falls Church 2.4
Lewis 2.4
Madison 2.4
Chantilly 2.2
Justice 1.8

Skyview's opening may reduce the average distance for Westfield and Oakton. That would leave one very obvious outlier.


It would be most interesting to see the longest commute of each school rather than the average. For example, some of the Langley students are 13 miles from Langley and 2 miles from Herndon.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's weird that they think it will take this long to get an acceptable boundary map I guess it's an acknowledgment of their own incompetence to say they need this many rounds of review and refinement. It really wasn't always this drawn out and laborious, but there used to be competent FCPS employees who understood the county better.

It's not that it takes a long time to come up with a map. It's that no matter what the map looks like there will be some people who are rabidly fighting against it. All this public input is fine to make sure they don't make any obvious mistakes, but they shouldn't let people think they have any actual say in the decision in the end. The school board should be drawing maps based on what is best for the school system as a whole - not on which groups scream the loudest about which school they think they are entitled to attend.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In connection with the Skyview boundary review, the new consultants retained by FCPS analyzed the average distance in miles to school for students in the 24 high school pyramids, presumably for the current school year:

Langley 7.3
Oakton 5.7
Westfield 5.3
Fairfax 4.5
Hayfield 3.2
Lake Braddock 3.2
Robinson 3.2
Woodson 3.1
Edison 3.0
Mount Vernon 3.0
South Lakes 3.0
West Potomac 3.0
Marshall 2.9
McLean 2.7
West Springfield 2.6
Herndon 2.5
South County 2.5
Annandale 2.4
Centreville 2.4
Falls Church 2.4
Lewis 2.4
Madison 2.4
Chantilly 2.2
Justice 1.8

Skyview's opening may reduce the average distance for Westfield and Oakton. That would leave one very obvious outlier.


It would be most interesting to see the longest commute of each school rather than the average. For example, some of the Langley students are 13 miles from Langley and 2 miles from Herndon.

Quit hijacking the thread with your obsession. Just because that’s all you think about doesn’t mean you need to constantly spam every thread with Langley. Give it a rest.
Anonymous
Everybody be quiet about Langley or the grumble grumble lady who thinks everyone is jealous of her will show up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Everybody be quiet about Langley or the grumble grumble lady who thinks everyone is jealous of her will show up.

But this thread isn’t related to that, so stop posting here. You just look desperate and small.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's weird that they think it will take this long to get an acceptable boundary map I guess it's an acknowledgment of their own incompetence to say they need this many rounds of review and refinement. It really wasn't always this drawn out and laborious, but there used to be competent FCPS employees who understood the county better.

It's not that it takes a long time to come up with a map. It's that no matter what the map looks like there will be some people who are rabidly fighting against it. All this public input is fine to make sure they don't make any obvious mistakes, but they shouldn't let people think they have any actual say in the decision in the end. The school board should be drawing maps based on what is best for the school system as a whole - not on which groups scream the loudest about which school they think they are entitled to attend.


But that's kind of the point. They don't have the competence any longer to determine what is best for the school system as a whole. It's the recognition that they are clueless that leads to the crowdsourcing, and the crowdsourcing is an open invitation to scream loudly. It's one big negative feedback loop.

It did not used to be like this. It was easier to have a spine when you also had faith in your own competence. They don't have that faith any longer, nor should they.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In connection with the Skyview boundary review, the new consultants retained by FCPS analyzed the average distance in miles to school for students in the 24 high school pyramids, presumably for the current school year:

Langley 7.3
Oakton 5.7
Westfield 5.3
Fairfax 4.5
Hayfield 3.2
Lake Braddock 3.2
Robinson 3.2
Woodson 3.1
Edison 3.0
Mount Vernon 3.0
South Lakes 3.0
West Potomac 3.0
Marshall 2.9
McLean 2.7
West Springfield 2.6
Herndon 2.5
South County 2.5
Annandale 2.4
Centreville 2.4
Falls Church 2.4
Lewis 2.4
Madison 2.4
Chantilly 2.2
Justice 1.8

Skyview's opening may reduce the average distance for Westfield and Oakton. That would leave one very obvious outlier.


It would be most interesting to see the longest commute of each school rather than the average. For example, some of the Langley students are 13 miles from Langley and 2 miles from Herndon.

Quit hijacking the thread with your obsession. Just because that’s all you think about doesn’t mean you need to constantly spam every thread with Langley. Give it a rest.


DP. The information in question about average commuting distances was taken directly from the Skyview boundary scenario maps. The consultants must have decided it was relevant to look at the information for all the schools in the county to get a feel for how schools in the study like Westfield and Oakton compared to other schools - both those with longer average commutes like Langley and others with much shorter commutes like West Springfield.
Anonymous
People don’t want longer commutes to worse high schools. Likewise, they are willing to put up with much further commutes for what they view as better schools.
Anonymous
Why did the other thread get locked?
Anonymous
Crossfield wanted the other thread shut down probably.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We're Floris and within the Skyview boundary in all three scenarios. Our current 9th grader has already opted in, partly because of a better commute. And what will that commute be? A bus all the way out to Westfield, followed by another bus all the way back to Skyview. Make it make sense.


If you are that close, you or your spouse should just drop the kid off.

How about the afternoon? School ends at 2:45 and we're both at work.
surely, you can talk through the options and figure what works best for your family.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In connection with the Skyview boundary review, the new consultants retained by FCPS analyzed the average distance in miles to school for students in the 24 high school pyramids, presumably for the current school year:

Langley 7.3
Oakton 5.7
Westfield 5.3
Fairfax 4.5
Hayfield 3.2
Lake Braddock 3.2
Robinson 3.2
Woodson 3.1
Edison 3.0
Mount Vernon 3.0
South Lakes 3.0
West Potomac 3.0
Marshall 2.9
McLean 2.7
West Springfield 2.6
Herndon 2.5
South County 2.5
Annandale 2.4
Centreville 2.4
Falls Church 2.4
Lewis 2.4
Madison 2.4
Chantilly 2.2
Justice 1.8

Skyview's opening may reduce the average distance for Westfield and Oakton. That would leave one very obvious outlier.


Wonder if two factors are not at play here. First being housing density, second being a form of soft redlining.
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